[Code S] RO4 Day 2 2013 GSL Season 1 - Page 87

On March 02 2013 10:13 negativedge wrote:


are you somehow trying to claim that players like symbol, roro, curious, et al are not as good as vortix and nerchio?

On March 02 2013 12:43 Valikyr wrote:

As a zerg you will be competitive as long as you're able to play ZvZ. HotS can't come soon enough. I don't even respect the skill of a zerg that beats a T/P since almost a year ago because I know it's so easy to play (I've played 3k games as P on high master/gm and 20 or so games as zerg and my ZvP is better than my PvZ in WoL)

On March 02 2013 12:43 Valikyr wrote:

As a zerg you will be competitive as long as you're able to play ZvZ. HotS can't come soon enough. I don't even respect the skill of a zerg that beats a T/P since almost a year ago because I know it's so easy to play (I've played 3k games as P on high master/gm and 20 or so games as zerg and my ZvP is better than my PvZ in WoL)

On March 02 2013 13:49 Evil_Sheep wrote:
For all those QQ'ing about zergs being OP in this thread, salvation is close at hand. Apparently blizzard is just as tired of these all-zerg affairs as you b/c the so-called zerg expansion coming in two weeks has nerfed zerg into oblivion. Look at the results from the MLG showdowns (in HotS): ZvAll 25%, ZvP 37.5%, ZvT...0%!

It seems some terrans up in Blizz HQ are just as tired of being rolled by the zerg deathball as you.

On March 02 2013 12:43 Valikyr wrote:

As a zerg you will be competitive as long as you're able to play ZvZ. HotS can't come soon enough. I don't even respect the skill of a zerg that beats a T/P since almost a year ago because I know it's so easy to play (I've played 3k games as P on high master/gm and 20 or so games as zerg and my ZvP is better than my PvZ in WoL)

On March 02 2013 02:34 Sabu113 wrote:

Because the game was broken with a massive imbalance in Terran's favor for a long time and that probably has a lot of explanatory power for MVP's success.

On March 02 2013 14:27 Lunareste wrote:


Lol, whaaaaaaaaaaat?????????? This comment is actually bothering the fuck out of me because of how stupid it is, so let me take a few minutes of my time here to carefully explain to you why you're an idiot.

Maybe you don't remember Mvp being THE BEST player to switch over from Brood War, hands down. Nobody was even CLOSE to him in terms of skill throughout 2011 save for MMA, Leenock and DRG. They were all extremely amazing players, but Mvp was the only one of these players who was able to consistently take matches off of each one of these players, with sets that were competitive and not complete landslides; as well as maintaining domination over every single other player who was not a part of that group.

Maybe it's hard for you to accept, but based on past results, mechanic skill, playing ability and adaptability Mvp was so far ahead of the curve in 2011 that it's honestly surprising that he didn't win even more than he did. He was VERY close to making the finals several times that year, too.

Do you want to know how good Mvp is, and how little Mvp's success had to do with balance at all? Mvp was and is so good at SC2 that this year, when the meta favored Protoss and he was counted out every step of the way from the ro16 on, Mvp took the championship against many players who specialized in PvT.

This year, when Zerg dominance was at its height against a prodigy, Mvp took it to a 7th set where he was beaten for trading less than 30 supply to kill a base, and having his remaining forces taken out by a unit that was subsequently nerfed to the fucking ground because it was destroying the game.

You wanna know how insanely fucking good Mvp is? For over a year now, he hasn't even been able to maintain a normal practice schedule because it hurts his wrists too much. He's been BY FAR the most successful Terran of 2012 and he can't even play more than a handful of games some days.

On March 02 2013 13:23 Assirra wrote:

Yea i am sure Life cares a lot about your respect when waving his royal road sword and looking at his GSL trophy.

On March 02 2013 14:40 Wingblade wrote:


GSL trophies* he won Blizz Cup too. And don't forget that shiny MLG trophy. And honestly, he could probably coax some respect out of people with that giant sword if he really wanted to.

On March 02 2013 02:01 Wingblade wrote:


I have to disagree TvT is not better than TvP. Watching TvT looks like I'm watching World War 1 koprulu sector style. And that's bio-mech, watching a Mech v Mech game is like watching a sumo match that last 20+ minutes. I've never found appeal in the matchup, call me super bias but it looks like a giant standoff until someone makes a mistake and then it ends.

On March 02 2013 02:10 ZenithM wrote:

"I'm glad it's ZvZ!" - Less people.

On March 02 2013 17:08 samurai80 wrote:

My thought exactly. Looking at those sieged tanks shooting at each other don't appeal me at all. I mean, a tank is an immobile unit when sieged. I know you have to position them and that this is strategical, which is fine, but I prefer something that moves more. Of course you have the drops etc, but still these tank wars remain the main of the battle. But well, here when I say that I'm told "I'm different" (which means I'm not a terran fanboy !?)