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ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-24 20:56:21
February 24 2013 20:55 GMT
#361
On February 25 2013 05:51 Talron wrote:
Can't tell if it was Hyun having a bad game, Polt just being overall superior or really just Terran & Zerg in HotS being really strong / weak respectevily. Someone enlighten me. Newbie here

IIRC Polt is hovering around 80% winrate on ladder atm including a nice series wins over the KTFlash account (who was the #1 player a week or so). I'd definitely rate him as a top 3 HOTS Terran. And it's mostly just incorporating HOTS units into his playstyle (i.e. not entirely dependent on Hellbat all-ins/drops).
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
February 24 2013 20:55 GMT
#362
On February 25 2013 05:51 Talron wrote:
Can't tell if it was Hyun having a bad game, Polt just being overall superior or really just Terran & Zerg in HotS being really strong / weak respectevily. Someone enlighten me. Newbie here


It's actually very small changes in the feeling of the game.
The reapers > Window mines pressure keep terran very safe to be greedy, but zerg have a hard time defending it.
They have to get some units, or a slower third, etc. If they don't, they will lose a lot of drones.

After that not much have changed.
It's basicly Mutalingbane vs marinetanks, but with better mutalisk on one side, and better medivacs on the other.
But the early make it so terran has more momentum going into midgame.
It's a bit like in 2011 when 4 hellions was enough to make a zerg stuck on 2 bases while you take your third base as terran. Zerg just don't have a strong midgame without the early 3 bases + 75 drones
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
February 24 2013 20:57 GMT
#363
On February 25 2013 05:46 PulseKane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 05:33 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On February 25 2013 05:30 PulseKane wrote:
Terran B)


Polt B)


Widow mines not that hard to use. Polt wins the late game engagements so convincingly because he's really freaking good, but he gets in such a good position because of his race I think. widow mines drops are REALLY hard to deal with from any terran.


Yeah mines can be silly, Blizzard are pushing their new toys a bit too much. Still, Polt is scary as fuck, probably the only oldschool terran who isn't slumping (despite his studies).
Terran & Potato Salad.
mYiKane
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1772 Posts
February 24 2013 21:05 GMT
#364
On February 25 2013 05:57 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 05:46 PulseKane wrote:
On February 25 2013 05:33 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On February 25 2013 05:30 PulseKane wrote:
Terran B)


Polt B)


Widow mines not that hard to use. Polt wins the late game engagements so convincingly because he's really freaking good, but he gets in such a good position because of his race I think. widow mines drops are REALLY hard to deal with from any terran.


Yeah mines can be silly, Blizzard are pushing their new toys a bit too much. Still, Polt is scary as fuck, probably the only oldschool terran who isn't slumping (despite his studies).


ya he's REALLY good, even in WoL his play is scary as shit.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
February 24 2013 21:18 GMT
#365
On February 25 2013 05:55 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 05:51 Talron wrote:
Can't tell if it was Hyun having a bad game, Polt just being overall superior or really just Terran & Zerg in HotS being really strong / weak respectevily. Someone enlighten me. Newbie here


It's actually very small changes in the feeling of the game.
The reapers > Window mines pressure keep terran very safe to be greedy, but zerg have a hard time defending it.
They have to get some units, or a slower third, etc. If they don't, they will lose a lot of drones.

After that not much have changed.
It's basicly Mutalingbane vs marinetanks, but with better mutalisk on one side, and better medivacs on the other.
But the early make it so terran has more momentum going into midgame.
It's a bit like in 2011 when 4 hellions was enough to make a zerg stuck on 2 bases while you take your third base as terran. Zerg just don't have a strong midgame without the early 3 bases + 75 drones


There are other things that tilt it in the Terran's favor in the midgame beyond just the pressure Terran can put early on. Muta/Ling has never been a cost efficient style for Zerg, and a widow mine hit here and there that blows up a bunch of Lings or Banes, kills a Muta for free etc makes that worse. Polt didn't show much of this, but Terran can also support his army with mines, making it very cost inefficient for Zerg to engage. Overseers don't solve this.

In WoL, when Zerg plays Muta/Ling, winning an engagement means being able to kill at least a few of the medivacs with Mutas, but in HotS they just stim and run away, so once again, it's less cost efficient for the Zerg.
Glon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States569 Posts
February 25 2013 13:59 GMT
#366
GGs to everyone.

Congrats to Hyun for his sick streak and Polt for winning. Good luck on Thursday~
@QuanticGlon https://twitter.com/QuanticGlon
ApolloSC2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United Kingdom804 Posts
February 28 2013 15:53 GMT
#367
This ends tonight!!!
www.twitter.com/apollosc2
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24591 Posts
February 28 2013 18:13 GMT
#368
I love the hallucinated Oracle.
Erik.TheRed
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1655 Posts
February 28 2013 18:22 GMT
#369
seed didn't bring his mothership core along with that attack
"See you space cowboy"
Herect
Profile Joined January 2012
Brazil216 Posts
February 28 2013 18:23 GMT
#370
Polt above 1K doing 5 depots at same time. lol. Still wins.

TBH, both guys with really bad macro.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
February 28 2013 18:23 GMT
#371
Polt being Polt again. Sloppy macro at the end, very late Ghosts, but he just out maneuvering Seed everywhere.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
disco
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Netherlands1667 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 18:25:28
February 28 2013 18:25 GMT
#372
Wasn't Ret supposed to play tonight? I must have missed this, but why did Dimaga replace him?
this game is a fucking jokie
Adebisi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1637 Posts
February 28 2013 18:27 GMT
#373
Ret is sick and is unable to play. Dimaga came to the rescue to replace him.
disco
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Netherlands1667 Posts
February 28 2013 18:30 GMT
#374
Alright, thanks.
this game is a fucking jokie
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
February 28 2013 18:44 GMT
#375
I think Polt needs a new base.
Terran & Potato Salad.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
February 28 2013 18:46 GMT
#376
damn polt is owning hots so far
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
February 28 2013 18:46 GMT
#377
I feel like I'm being redundant, but seriously WTF happened to Polt?!? I was always a big fanboy, but I would probably rate him 4th or 5th among WOL Terrans. He's kicked it into another gear in HOTS.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
February 28 2013 18:47 GMT
#378
HAHA holyshit those nukes
Terran & Potato Salad.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
February 28 2013 18:47 GMT
#379
just like violet he seems to have gotten a huge skill boost from leaving korea for usa lol
SyDe
Profile Joined January 2011
France355 Posts
February 28 2013 18:48 GMT
#380
polt is really impressive o,o
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