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liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
February 07 2013 11:58 GMT
#1721
On February 07 2013 20:55 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 20:54 Dodgin wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:49 BackSideAttack wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:48 Dodgin wrote:
i wish i could ban everyone posting kespa vs esf bait, bogus being godly has nothing to do with kespa he's just godly because he is, it's not like the rest of STX soul is that good, look at them being last place in proleague.


And this is not bait? Lol...the irony


It's really annoying to see sweeping generalizations about a group of 100+ players based on the performance of one player, how is that baiting arguments at all? anyone with a brain would agree with me

Was clearly a bait to us Dear fans


He outlined a team, not an organisation... unless youre joking - in which case, hehehehe
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
February 07 2013 11:58 GMT
#1722
On February 07 2013 20:55 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 20:53 Wildmoon wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:50 Maesy wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:47 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:46 HomeWorld wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:43 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:42 xluik wrote:
bogus man outfucking played

Not outplayed.
Innovation is being overhyped, DRG made some crucial errors in both games which cost him that(Very un-DRG like mistakes)


Just admit that Innovation was better than DRG. No need for poor excuses.

Not poor excuses, don't hype someone just for the case of hype.
He is good but not what Tastosis or anyone else is hyping him up to be.


Some people don't hype just to hype. If you look into little details of specific games you can tell when someone is on fire. After Mvp won his first TvT in the Ro64 of his first GSL victory (I forgot who it was against, maybe Hyperdub?) nobody really knew who Mvp was and he wasn't impressing, but I instantly said right there. "That's it. Mvp is going to win this whole tournament. I'm following him." and it happened.

I'll go on a whim and say Innovation is going to do the impossible and win this GSL as well. I believe he can shut down Life.


Doubt that. Life looks far more invincible than Bogus.


Not when Soulkeys in his group. Soulkey looked more invincible then Life last time they played. Soulkey gave Life a 4-0 sweep.


Life won almost pretty much everything he entered recently. 1 serie doesn't tell much about Soulkey's skill overall.
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
February 07 2013 11:58 GMT
#1723
On February 07 2013 20:45 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 20:44 mprs wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:42 sinigang wrote:
KeSPA > ESF


Sample size: 1

thanks for your wonderful insight. On another note, this is what happens when a Terran plays better than a Zerg. Now let's hope Taeja/DRG make it out.

Take it back.


I'm only leaning toward DRG because:

1) Taeja can use the rest for his wrist
2) DRG would be able to prepare for matches better in the long run because he doesn't have a serious injury like Taeja does

Taeja's injury is really holding him back, I feel so bad But if he wants a future in HOTS, he really should rest it.
We talkin about PRACTICE
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 07 2013 11:58 GMT
#1724
On February 07 2013 20:58 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 20:57 opterown wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:56 bo1b wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:56 sAsImre wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:45 LimitSEA wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:44 sAsImre wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:42 Rollora wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:38 sAsImre wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:37 Rollora wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:33 AxionSteel wrote:
[quote]
maybe you need to be a terran player to realize how freaking difficult it is to do what bogus was doing. microing your hellions everywhere denying creep whilst macroing is very unforgiving. It was spectacular play really.

THIS.
Ofc DRGs APM are mostly macro, creepspread etc.
But ofc you could never ever multitask like Innovation does, and Micro, Zerg is just not made for it and I think because terran have to do that all the time since the beginning of sc2, while Zerg don't have to do it for the win (i don't say IMBA, its just different to play), OFC Innovations Multitasking und (real)APM are much higher and more valuable


watch Life and talk about no potential for Z micro/multitask

Well you are right.
Life is the exception to the rule, and the niveau we will see, when the game is really figured out and only the best of the best still are around.
It is funny how I reacted when i saw this life kid the first time:
Wow, the first Zerg who actually microes his units and does harassement, he will sure win GSL soon.
Well he won it back then


what's funny is that a bunch of people in LR threads where saying that the 1st Z god will be the one with decent macro and really good micro.
Life happened and proved they were right :p

He wasn't the first Zerg God though. >.>


Well he's the first one to be on a whole other level than almost every other player.

Were you watching from january to april last year?

mkp was around then to stop DRG though haha

Didn't MKP win before january? Pretty sure drg was stomping mkp past that point.

no, early 2012 was mkp stomping ground
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 07 2013 11:59 GMT
#1725
On February 07 2013 20:55 Shellshock1122 wrote:
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro16 Group A
TaeJa vs Bomber
Game 1
Map: Cloud Kingdom

0:00
TaeJa spawns in the top right
Bomber spawns in the bottom left

1:40
rax first for TaeJa
rax first for Bomber

2:00
gas for Bomber
tech lab for Bomber
scv scout of TaeJa sees 1 gas and tech lab

3:00
reaper started for Bomber
CC on the low ground for TaeJa
Cc on the low ground for Bomber

4:00
2 more rax for TaeJa
2nd rax for Bomber
reaper is intercepted and deflected by 2 marines
3rd rax for Bomber
double gas for TaeJa

5:00
reaper is denied again by a marine on the high ground
stim research started for Bomber
ebay for Bomber
bunker in the natural for Bomber
ebay for TaeJa
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
February 07 2013 11:59 GMT
#1726
On February 07 2013 20:56 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 20:45 LimitSEA wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:44 sAsImre wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:42 Rollora wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:38 sAsImre wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:37 Rollora wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:33 AxionSteel wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:31 bo1b wrote:
Honestly what depresses me the most is people making it out like bogus had 3x the apm of drg that game.

maybe you need to be a terran player to realize how freaking difficult it is to do what bogus was doing. microing your hellions everywhere denying creep whilst macroing is very unforgiving. It was spectacular play really.

THIS.
Ofc DRGs APM are mostly macro, creepspread etc.
But ofc you could never ever multitask like Innovation does, and Micro, Zerg is just not made for it and I think because terran have to do that all the time since the beginning of sc2, while Zerg don't have to do it for the win (i don't say IMBA, its just different to play), OFC Innovations Multitasking und (real)APM are much higher and more valuable


watch Life and talk about no potential for Z micro/multitask

Well you are right.
Life is the exception to the rule, and the niveau we will see, when the game is really figured out and only the best of the best still are around.
It is funny how I reacted when i saw this life kid the first time:
Wow, the first Zerg who actually microes his units and does harassement, he will sure win GSL soon.
Well he won it back then


what's funny is that a bunch of people in LR threads where saying that the 1st Z god will be the one with decent macro and really good micro.
Life happened and proved they were right :p

He wasn't the first Zerg God though. >.>


Well he's the first one to be on a whole other level than almost every other player.


Hard to do with Prime MVP around!
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
February 07 2013 11:59 GMT
#1727
sick depot placement making it hard for the reaper to enter the main of taeja!
"NO" -Has
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 07 2013 11:59 GMT
#1728
On February 07 2013 20:59 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 20:56 sAsImre wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:45 LimitSEA wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:44 sAsImre wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:42 Rollora wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:38 sAsImre wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:37 Rollora wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:33 AxionSteel wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:31 bo1b wrote:
Honestly what depresses me the most is people making it out like bogus had 3x the apm of drg that game.

maybe you need to be a terran player to realize how freaking difficult it is to do what bogus was doing. microing your hellions everywhere denying creep whilst macroing is very unforgiving. It was spectacular play really.

THIS.
Ofc DRGs APM are mostly macro, creepspread etc.
But ofc you could never ever multitask like Innovation does, and Micro, Zerg is just not made for it and I think because terran have to do that all the time since the beginning of sc2, while Zerg don't have to do it for the win (i don't say IMBA, its just different to play), OFC Innovations Multitasking und (real)APM are much higher and more valuable


watch Life and talk about no potential for Z micro/multitask

Well you are right.
Life is the exception to the rule, and the niveau we will see, when the game is really figured out and only the best of the best still are around.
It is funny how I reacted when i saw this life kid the first time:
Wow, the first Zerg who actually microes his units and does harassement, he will sure win GSL soon.
Well he won it back then


what's funny is that a bunch of people in LR threads where saying that the 1st Z god will be the one with decent macro and really good micro.
Life happened and proved they were right :p

He wasn't the first Zerg God though. >.>


Well he's the first one to be on a whole other level than almost every other player.


Hard to do with Prime MVP around!

i didn't know the two teams merged. scary team though, with mkp, byun, creator, drg and sniper
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
February 07 2013 11:59 GMT
#1729
On February 07 2013 20:57 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 20:56 bo1b wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:56 sAsImre wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:45 LimitSEA wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:44 sAsImre wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:42 Rollora wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:38 sAsImre wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:37 Rollora wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:33 AxionSteel wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:31 bo1b wrote:
Honestly what depresses me the most is people making it out like bogus had 3x the apm of drg that game.

maybe you need to be a terran player to realize how freaking difficult it is to do what bogus was doing. microing your hellions everywhere denying creep whilst macroing is very unforgiving. It was spectacular play really.

THIS.
Ofc DRGs APM are mostly macro, creepspread etc.
But ofc you could never ever multitask like Innovation does, and Micro, Zerg is just not made for it and I think because terran have to do that all the time since the beginning of sc2, while Zerg don't have to do it for the win (i don't say IMBA, its just different to play), OFC Innovations Multitasking und (real)APM are much higher and more valuable


watch Life and talk about no potential for Z micro/multitask

Well you are right.
Life is the exception to the rule, and the niveau we will see, when the game is really figured out and only the best of the best still are around.
It is funny how I reacted when i saw this life kid the first time:
Wow, the first Zerg who actually microes his units and does harassement, he will sure win GSL soon.
Well he won it back then


what's funny is that a bunch of people in LR threads where saying that the 1st Z god will be the one with decent macro and really good micro.
Life happened and proved they were right :p

He wasn't the first Zerg God though. >.>


Well he's the first one to be on a whole other level than almost every other player.

Were you watching from january to april last year?

mkp was around then to stop DRG though haha


and some nub called Mvp won a GSL. P happened to be decent tho and got their PvP final :p.
Zest fanboy.
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
February 07 2013 11:59 GMT
#1730
On February 07 2013 20:58 mprs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 20:45 Tobblish wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:44 mprs wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:42 sinigang wrote:
KeSPA > ESF


Sample size: 1

thanks for your wonderful insight. On another note, this is what happens when a Terran plays better than a Zerg. Now let's hope Taeja/DRG make it out.

Take it back.


I'm only leaning toward DRG because:

1) Taeja can use the rest for his wrist
2) DRG would be able to prepare for matches better in the long run because he doesn't have a serious injury like Taeja does

Taeja's injury is really holding him back, I feel so bad But if he wants a future in HOTS, he really should rest it.


Don't worry it was just a joke post since "we" don't want zergs to advance ^^
The curse is real
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
February 07 2013 12:00 GMT
#1731
On February 07 2013 20:59 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 20:59 liberate71 wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:56 sAsImre wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:45 LimitSEA wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:44 sAsImre wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:42 Rollora wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:38 sAsImre wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:37 Rollora wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:33 AxionSteel wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:31 bo1b wrote:
Honestly what depresses me the most is people making it out like bogus had 3x the apm of drg that game.

maybe you need to be a terran player to realize how freaking difficult it is to do what bogus was doing. microing your hellions everywhere denying creep whilst macroing is very unforgiving. It was spectacular play really.

THIS.
Ofc DRGs APM are mostly macro, creepspread etc.
But ofc you could never ever multitask like Innovation does, and Micro, Zerg is just not made for it and I think because terran have to do that all the time since the beginning of sc2, while Zerg don't have to do it for the win (i don't say IMBA, its just different to play), OFC Innovations Multitasking und (real)APM are much higher and more valuable


watch Life and talk about no potential for Z micro/multitask

Well you are right.
Life is the exception to the rule, and the niveau we will see, when the game is really figured out and only the best of the best still are around.
It is funny how I reacted when i saw this life kid the first time:
Wow, the first Zerg who actually microes his units and does harassement, he will sure win GSL soon.
Well he won it back then


what's funny is that a bunch of people in LR threads where saying that the 1st Z god will be the one with decent macro and really good micro.
Life happened and proved they were right :p

He wasn't the first Zerg God though. >.>


Well he's the first one to be on a whole other level than almost every other player.


Hard to do with Prime MVP around!

i didn't know the two teams merged. scary team though, with mkp, byun, creator, drg and sniper


Oh you
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
February 07 2013 12:00 GMT
#1732
Taeja at 46/46 for around 20s before starting two depots.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
February 07 2013 12:00 GMT
#1733
was taeja just supply blocked at 46/46 for a minute?
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 07 2013 12:01 GMT
#1734
On February 07 2013 20:58 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 20:58 bo1b wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:57 opterown wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:56 bo1b wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:56 sAsImre wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:45 LimitSEA wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:44 sAsImre wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:42 Rollora wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:38 sAsImre wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:37 Rollora wrote:
[quote]
THIS.
Ofc DRGs APM are mostly macro, creepspread etc.
But ofc you could never ever multitask like Innovation does, and Micro, Zerg is just not made for it and I think because terran have to do that all the time since the beginning of sc2, while Zerg don't have to do it for the win (i don't say IMBA, its just different to play), OFC Innovations Multitasking und (real)APM are much higher and more valuable


watch Life and talk about no potential for Z micro/multitask

Well you are right.
Life is the exception to the rule, and the niveau we will see, when the game is really figured out and only the best of the best still are around.
It is funny how I reacted when i saw this life kid the first time:
Wow, the first Zerg who actually microes his units and does harassement, he will sure win GSL soon.
Well he won it back then


what's funny is that a bunch of people in LR threads where saying that the 1st Z god will be the one with decent macro and really good micro.
Life happened and proved they were right :p

He wasn't the first Zerg God though. >.>


Well he's the first one to be on a whole other level than almost every other player.

Were you watching from january to april last year?

mkp was around then to stop DRG though haha

Didn't MKP win before january? Pretty sure drg was stomping mkp past that point.

no, early 2012 was mkp stomping ground

My mistake, I thought he won after April or before January lol.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
February 07 2013 12:01 GMT
#1735
On February 07 2013 20:55 Cokefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 20:54 TheBB wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:52 Cokefreak wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:51 BackSideAttack wrote:
Man and to think Innovation had the lowest chance to advance in the statistics posted earlier

I guess you could say those statistics were bogus.

Wish people would stop taking predictions where all probabilities were reported between 40% and 60% as anything other than saying "dead even". Look at the numbers, not just the order.

I love your statistics, they are often 100% correct as well, was just making a joke

I thought so, just wanted to mention it.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
February 07 2013 12:01 GMT
#1736
On February 07 2013 20:56 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 20:45 LimitSEA wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:44 sAsImre wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:42 Rollora wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:38 sAsImre wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:37 Rollora wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:33 AxionSteel wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:31 bo1b wrote:
Honestly what depresses me the most is people making it out like bogus had 3x the apm of drg that game.

maybe you need to be a terran player to realize how freaking difficult it is to do what bogus was doing. microing your hellions everywhere denying creep whilst macroing is very unforgiving. It was spectacular play really.

THIS.
Ofc DRGs APM are mostly macro, creepspread etc.
But ofc you could never ever multitask like Innovation does, and Micro, Zerg is just not made for it and I think because terran have to do that all the time since the beginning of sc2, while Zerg don't have to do it for the win (i don't say IMBA, its just different to play), OFC Innovations Multitasking und (real)APM are much higher and more valuable


watch Life and talk about no potential for Z micro/multitask

Well you are right.
Life is the exception to the rule, and the niveau we will see, when the game is really figured out and only the best of the best still are around.
It is funny how I reacted when i saw this life kid the first time:
Wow, the first Zerg who actually microes his units and does harassement, he will sure win GSL soon.
Well he won it back then


what's funny is that a bunch of people in LR threads where saying that the 1st Z god will be the one with decent macro and really good micro.
Life happened and proved they were right :p

He wasn't the first Zerg God though. >.>


Well he's the first one to be on a whole other level than almost every other player.

Only reason Nestea wasn't mid-late 2011 is because Mvp had wrists. :<<< If Mvp had wrists now, Life would look very mortal methinks.

But I'm biased, so.
Long live the King of Wings
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
February 07 2013 12:01 GMT
#1737
On February 07 2013 21:01 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 20:58 opterown wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:58 bo1b wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:57 opterown wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:56 bo1b wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:56 sAsImre wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:45 LimitSEA wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:44 sAsImre wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:42 Rollora wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:38 sAsImre wrote:
[quote]

watch Life and talk about no potential for Z micro/multitask

Well you are right.
Life is the exception to the rule, and the niveau we will see, when the game is really figured out and only the best of the best still are around.
It is funny how I reacted when i saw this life kid the first time:
Wow, the first Zerg who actually microes his units and does harassement, he will sure win GSL soon.
Well he won it back then


what's funny is that a bunch of people in LR threads where saying that the 1st Z god will be the one with decent macro and really good micro.
Life happened and proved they were right :p

He wasn't the first Zerg God though. >.>


Well he's the first one to be on a whole other level than almost every other player.

Were you watching from january to april last year?

mkp was around then to stop DRG though haha

Didn't MKP win before january? Pretty sure drg was stomping mkp past that point.

no, early 2012 was mkp stomping ground

My mistake, I thought he won after April or before January lol.


No it was approximately at the same time and there was this series of MLG finals between them.
Zest fanboy.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 07 2013 12:02 GMT
#1738
Ahh guess I'll just have to watch the vods.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
February 07 2013 12:02 GMT
#1739
On February 07 2013 21:01 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 20:55 Cokefreak wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:54 TheBB wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:52 Cokefreak wrote:
On February 07 2013 20:51 BackSideAttack wrote:
Man and to think Innovation had the lowest chance to advance in the statistics posted earlier

I guess you could say those statistics were bogus.

Wish people would stop taking predictions where all probabilities were reported between 40% and 60% as anything other than saying "dead even". Look at the numbers, not just the order.

I love your statistics, they are often 100% correct as well, was just making a joke

I thought so, just wanted to mention it.


But are you really that handsome and manly?
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 07 2013 12:02 GMT
#1740
On February 07 2013 20:59 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2013 20:55 Shellshock1122 wrote:
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro16 Group A
TaeJa vs Bomber
Game 1
Map: Cloud Kingdom

0:00
TaeJa spawns in the top right
Bomber spawns in the bottom left

1:40
rax first for TaeJa
rax first for Bomber

2:00
gas for Bomber
tech lab for Bomber
scv scout of TaeJa sees 1 gas and tech lab

3:00
reaper started for Bomber
CC on the low ground for TaeJa
Cc on the low ground for Bomber

4:00
2 more rax for TaeJa
2nd rax for Bomber
reaper is intercepted and deflected by 2 marines
3rd rax for Bomber
double gas for TaeJa

5:00
reaper is denied again by a marine on the high ground
stim research started for Bomber
ebay for Bomber
bunker in the natural for Bomber
ebay for TaeJa

6:00
+1 attack started for Bomber
stim research started for TaeJa
+1 attack started for TaeJa
bunker in the natural for TaeJa
Factory for TaeJa
3rd gas for TaeJa

7:00
2nd bunker in the natural for TaeJa
marauder production started for Bomber
Bomber salvages his bunker

8:00
Starport started for TaeJa
Combat shields on the way for Bomber
another gas for Bomber
3rd CC started for Bomber
Bomber moving out with his bio force
+1 armor started for Bomber

9:00
Factory started for Bomber
double medivac production started for Taeja
combat shields started for TaeJa
TaeJa sees the attack coming
scvs are pulled to repair
marine from TaeJa kills the building scv on Bomber's 3rd
+1 armor started for tTaeJa

10:00
Starport for Bombar
armory for Bomber
Bomber doesnt go in for the attack and starts killing rocks instead
2nd ebay for Bomber
3rd CC started for TaeJa on the high ground
siege tank production started for TaeJa
siege mode research started for TaeJa
armory started for TaeJa
+2 attack started for Bomber
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