[Code S] RO32 Group G 2013 GSL Season 1 - Page 13

On January 31 2013 18:50 InfCereal wrote:


Care to explain what an upkeep system is?

On January 31 2013 18:36 n0ise wrote:
what were these game-ending, back-breaking mistakes that noblesse did, in people's opinion?

On January 31 2013 18:53 sitromit wrote:


He means CK is a map Proleague players practice for and Noblesse could have picked a map that isn't used in Proleague.

On January 31 2013 18:52 Dekkers wrote:


The armies that wage war on the battlefield exact a heavy toll on the economies that support them. Even the lowliest of fighters has living expenses that must be met. Their armor must be oiled, their bows strung, and their weapons kept in clean condition. In short, these armies require Upkeep. In Warcraft III, Upkeep takes the form of a tax on your Gold mining that is automatically deducted from all Gold you gather. As you produce more units, the tax on your Gold income increases.

There are three levels of Upkeep:

No Upkeep (0-50 Food: 100% income)
No Upkeep occurs when you have an army consuming 50 food or less. At this level, there is no tax on your Gold mining, so your workers bring in 100 percent of their Gold.

Low Upkeep (51-80 Food: 70% income)
Low Upkeep arises when your army consumes between 51 and 80 food. The tax on your economy is modest, draining a small percentage of Gold from everything you mine.

High Upkeep (81-100 Food: 40% income)
High Upkeep is reached when your army grows beyond 80 food. Your Upkeep needs are so great that the tax levied on your Gold mining is enormous. A large percentage of Gold is taken from your workers before they ever deliver it into your coffers.

Upkeep has been included to improve tactical management for players while fostering a more aggressive style of gameplay. Players are more aggressive and turtle far less in their bases, and it gives players real strategic decisions to make about how many units they wish to control with pros and cons to each. Upkeep is also instituted to focus the game on smaller numbers of units. The more units that are allowed in the game, the less powerful Heroes will be relative to your army. This is simple math. High Upkeep is MEANT to be very punishing. Players should not be in it for long, but we didn't want to set the harsh unit cap at 80.

During play, it is wise to stay in Low Upkeep, and just jump to the High Upkeep tier before a major attack. Try not to enter High Upkeep unless you have 2-3+ Expansions.

If you find you are not collecting enough Gold, try to drop to a lower level of Upkeep or gain control of additional Gold Mines to counter the reduced income.

On January 31 2013 18:52 DarkLordOlli wrote:


I'm not "upset" about all ins at all. They're a legitimate way to play the game. It's interesting and refreshing to see all ins mixed in, no question. But do you honestly wanna see Nestea use the same baneling bust 4 times in a row like he did vs MKP at Iron Squid?
Also, what's "fun" and "not fun" isn't decided by you.

On January 31 2013 18:49 Dekkers wrote:


I don't get why people are upsets about all ins/early aggressions/timming pushs.
Is it more fun to see two players max at 200/200 and just A-move armies?
I'd rather watch 10 bunkers rushes/banneling busts that 10 5 bases versus 5 bases, it's so damn boring.

SC2 should have an upkeep system like in WC3 to prevent 200/200 battles, it's just not fun.

On January 31 2013 18:54 JunkkaGom wrote:
how come Korean stream doesn't get awesome zoozoobubble commercial

On January 31 2013 18:54 dezi wrote:
"Sick fungals" - this must be an insanely hard to use ability - cmon Artosis - get rid of this comment already.

On January 31 2013 18:52 Dekkers wrote:


The armies that wage war on the battlefield exact a heavy toll on the economies that support them. Even the lowliest of fighters has living expenses that must be met. Their armor must be oiled, their bows strung, and their weapons kept in clean condition. In short, these armies require Upkeep. In Warcraft III, Upkeep takes the form of a tax on your Gold mining that is automatically deducted from all Gold you gather. As you produce more units, the tax on your Gold income increases.

There are three levels of Upkeep:

No Upkeep (0-50 Food: 100% income)
No Upkeep occurs when you have an army consuming 50 food or less. At this level, there is no tax on your Gold mining, so your workers bring in 100 percent of their Gold.

Low Upkeep (51-80 Food: 70% income)
Low Upkeep arises when your army consumes between 51 and 80 food. The tax on your economy is modest, draining a small percentage of Gold from everything you mine.

High Upkeep (81-100 Food: 40% income)
High Upkeep is reached when your army grows beyond 80 food. Your Upkeep needs are so great that the tax levied on your Gold mining is enormous. A large percentage of Gold is taken from your workers before they ever deliver it into your coffers.

Upkeep has been included to improve tactical management for players while fostering a more aggressive style of gameplay. Players are more aggressive and turtle far less in their bases, and it gives players real strategic decisions to make about how many units they wish to control with pros and cons to each. Upkeep is also instituted to focus the game on smaller numbers of units. The more units that are allowed in the game, the less powerful Heroes will be relative to your army. This is simple math. High Upkeep is MEANT to be very punishing. Players should not be in it for long, but we didn't want to set the harsh unit cap at 80.

During play, it is wise to stay in Low Upkeep, and just jump to the High Upkeep tier before a major attack. Try not to enter High Upkeep unless you have 2-3+ Expansions.

If you find you are not collecting enough Gold, try to drop to a lower level of Upkeep or gain control of additional Gold Mines to counter the reduced income.

On January 31 2013 18:51 Douillos wrote:



lol?

On January 31 2013 18:54 vthree wrote:


Infested terrans broke down that depot wall.

On January 31 2013 18:54 Figgy wrote:


He had 2 bunkers in Soulkeys Natural with 4 marines. Soulkey attacked with 5 roaches. Noblesse didn't transfer the marines to the 2nd bunker and instead let them all die. He also didn't Salvage either bunker. 150 minerals and time lost because of bad multitasking.

He did 2 drops and simply let all his marines die when Zerglings came to deny them. 16 marines lost because of bad multitasking.

He rallied 5 tanks into Broodlords. Game ending mistake because of bad multitasking.

Just a horrid game by Noblesse, he isn't Code S material.