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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
January 29 2013 10:17 GMT
#541
On January 29 2013 19:15 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:
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On January 29 2013 19:14 opterown wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:13 JJH777 wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:12 opterown wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:11 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
hope PartinG wins this one so I can see Losira's ZvP now :3

don't worry you can see if after byun goes 4-0 and ryung 0-4 amirite ;D

Only a terrible person would root for Ryung to go 0-4

guess i'm terrible then

Whats ur deal with ryung? xD

i just like everyone else more in this group
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16097 Posts
January 29 2013 10:18 GMT
#542
On January 29 2013 19:17 ThomasR wrote:
tasteless pretty clueless about sports lol


He's a nerd as much as he'll try and deny it.

He's not the full package sports/esports nerd like we have a lot of on TL.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
tylerf
Profile Joined March 2012
739 Posts
January 29 2013 10:18 GMT
#543
Is tasteless trying to describe salary cap vs non salary cap? lol
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
January 29 2013 10:18 GMT
#544
I love tastosis's random conversations :D
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
January 29 2013 10:18 GMT
#545
On January 29 2013 19:15 eGoRama wrote:
I wonder what will happen if Losira takes a game with Spores, Spines, Drones and Overlords against Ryung. What level of whining will we witness



1000000000000x times less than when parting soul train Zergs. I must say I can't wait for this thread to go the other way round and tasting your tears
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
January 29 2013 10:18 GMT
#546
On January 29 2013 19:17 Dodgin wrote:
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On January 29 2013 19:15 Waxangel wrote:
did Bisu even win any of his MSLs on SKT? maybe one?

the third one I think?

yeah, and one of the BW GSLs as well afaik
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
January 29 2013 10:18 GMT
#547
On January 29 2013 19:17 Dodgin wrote:
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On January 29 2013 19:15 Waxangel wrote:
did Bisu even win any of his MSLs on SKT? maybe one?


the third one I think?


Pretty sure he won the Clubday MSL on SKT
Jaedong & Faker
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
January 29 2013 10:18 GMT
#548
This is going to be tough for Parting, Byun's PvT is pretty good.
bankobauss
Profile Joined December 2012
204 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-29 10:19:41
January 29 2013 10:18 GMT
#549
realistically, every 36food of ultralisks or broodlords the zerg has in his army, 36food of battlecruisers would counter it well due to the high DPS of yamato taking out those big units quickly

the problem is not that corrupters beat BC's. corrupters need to beat BC's to keep things balanced, if the zergs starting to build up ultras/broodlords the hopeful idea is that you can slowly add in BC's to help counter that army


the problem is zerg can make 10 ultras at once. terran needs 10 starports to do that. battlecruiers arent bad, its just zerg macro mechanics make them seem bad. and i dont know of any good solution to the problem. terran does have a good gas sink against lategame zerg (BC's) problem is zerg just has a infinitely better macro mechanics
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33479 Posts
January 29 2013 10:19 GMT
#550
hey byun doing one of his funky byun builds
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
January 29 2013 10:19 GMT
#551
oh wait, bisu did win an msl on skt

it was against jangbi

the season where the finals intro was cool.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
January 29 2013 10:19 GMT
#552
ryung simply got outplayed. losira didn't even have to use his claws.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
Insoleet
Profile Joined May 2012
France1806 Posts
January 29 2013 10:19 GMT
#553
ravens are always good. with infestors nerf, mass it doesn't work against air deathballs.
2000 gas = terran have to start transitioning in his lategame.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12501 Posts
January 29 2013 10:19 GMT
#554
On January 29 2013 19:17 TheDwf wrote:
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On January 29 2013 19:12 Insoleet wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:05 Qwerty85 wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:00 Insoleet wrote:
On January 29 2013 18:57 Vindicare605 wrote:
On January 29 2013 18:57 nomyx wrote:
Ryung with 2400+ gas, is this normal for terrans?


When going bio? Absolutely.

terrans should ts3 transition to raven when they have do much gas in bank. I met on the ladder a terran building ravens with his gas and it was absurdly strong.


Ravens against ultras? Dont think so. But if he transitioned to broodlord corruptor, that could work. But again, raven is 100/200 so you still need minerals, and Ryung was starving for minerals in that game, so he couldn't really afford making starports and ravens.

with building armor, auto turrets are very strong against ultra (because of their dumb ai). and then seeker missile against BL. seeker missiles are also decent against ultras.
mass raven is always the way to go for terrans.

Pure nonsense, Missiles are awful against Ultralisks (125 energy to remove 1/5th of an Ultralisk's hit points sounds efficient to you?) and I have no idea how this “Autoturrets are very strong against Ultralisks because they block path!” myth ever came to life, Ultralisks just chop them down very quickly then proceed to steamroll the army behind.

they create artificial blockage which mess up their pathing quite a lot, some ultras will just get stucked until the turrets are taken down
dragon uses it quite a lot in TvZ for hots
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
woody60707
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1863 Posts
January 29 2013 10:19 GMT
#555
baseball doesn't have a salary caps? That's so dumb.
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
January 29 2013 10:19 GMT
#556
On January 29 2013 19:16 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 19:15 Waxangel wrote:
did Bisu even win any of his MSLs on SKT? maybe one?


nah, pretty sure he won all his shit on mbc.

I think he won ClubDay MSL on SKT
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 29 2013 10:19 GMT
#557
On January 29 2013 19:15 Shellshock1122 wrote:
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro32 Group E
ByuN vs PartinG
Game 1
Map: Akilon Flats

0:00
ByuN spawns in the top left
PartinG spawns in the bottom right

1:40
rax first for ByuN
gateway first for PartinG

2:00
gas for PartinG
Cybernetics core for PartinG

3:00
CC on the low ground for ByuN
stalker first for PartinG
double gas for ByuN

4:00
bunker at the natural ramp for ByuN
Nexus for PartinG
sentry for PartinG
2nd gas for PartinG
Factory for ByuN

5:00
reactor for ByuN
robo for PartinG
gateway for Parting
stalker for Parting
Starport for ByuN
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16097 Posts
January 29 2013 10:19 GMT
#558
And in this way Artosis, Starcraft is like baseball.

You don't need to be good at everything, but you can have a single great skill and use it to make you a good Starcraft player.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
January 29 2013 10:19 GMT
#559
On January 29 2013 19:16 nomyx wrote:
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On January 29 2013 19:15 acrimoneyius wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:12 nomyx wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:11 acrimoneyius wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:09 nomyx wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:06 Windows 7 wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:04 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:03 mrRoflpwn wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:02 Corrosive wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:01 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:
[quote]

But what is terran supposed to do against this creep.

are you serious? creep op?


Next level balance whiners!


No you explain me. How ryung shoud have done this. Where he has gone wrong. I am trying to understand what happend.


I feel like he was limited by his unit composition. Marine marauder tank seems fine against queen ultra on paper, but like Tastosis said, those ultras just didn't die. Theorycrafting here but perhaps ghosts would have been able to counter that composition?


Of course ghosts would have been good, Losira had most of his Queens in a pile (hard to spread off creep) so a few EMPs would be wonderful. Queens are also psionic so snipe does bonus damage.


Ghosts aren't good because they're 2.5x more expensive than a marauder that can't kite. You have to get a sufficient number of ghosts to build energy before you can really do anything with them (same problem as ravens minus infrastructure concerns). If ghost was 100/150 cost it would be much more justifiable. Ghosts cost way too much minerals and have limited aggressive potential.


Ghosts cost too many minerals? I thought they cost too much gas? Then terrans complained and blizzard changed it. Make up your mind...


No one ever complained about Ghost's costing too much gas. Ghost's were heavily used in 2011 until they were nerfed into oblivion. Get your facts straight. Terran has too much reliance on minerals that go to other units. Ever notice most terrans have an excessive gas bank? They can't spend it on anything unless they have a few starports with techlabs. Ravens aren't good against ultra compositions.


Look back to 2011 when terrans were complaining about ghosts costing too much. It's just funny that the opposite is now the same.


Ghost costing more minerals than gas is a nerf to ghost. Just try to think when do you see ghosts in the games. TvP, bio costs minerals, if ghosts were just gas or more gas (like ht) they would be much easier to get and mass. Since they cost 200 min, you cant go crazy with them too fast unless you build up ghost count during the game (like Dream does).

So ghost costing more minerals was a nerf.
Chill Penguin
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia756 Posts
January 29 2013 10:19 GMT
#560
On January 29 2013 19:16 eGoRama wrote:
Also Byun vs Parting should be awesome only if Byun will not reach the level of stupidity like he did against Seed


Unfortunately he's never been the same since. Byun is such a pleasure to watch when he's on song, I'm hoping we'll see a return to form from him this season.
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