GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro32 Group E
ByuN vs
PartinG
Game 1
Map: Akilon Flats
ByuN vs
PartinGGame 1
Map: Akilon Flats
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro32 Group E ByuN vs PartinGGame 1 Map: Akilon Flats 0:00 ByuN spawns in the top left PartinG spawns in the bottom right | ||
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eGoRama
Bulgaria1542 Posts
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On January 29 2013 19:15 Waxangel wrote: did Bisu even win any of his MSLs on SKT? maybe one? nah, pretty sure he won all his shit on mbc. | ||
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aksfjh
United States4853 Posts
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-YoricK-
United States476 Posts
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eGoRama
Bulgaria1542 Posts
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Gimmeurladderpoints
Germany372 Posts
If Parting just goes a liiiiiittle more over the top with his cockyness. He could become the ultimate villain of sc2 Now everybody loves him. But a few more all ins. And a little more bling bling in his attitude and the hate could begin. | ||
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Douillos
France3195 Posts
On January 29 2013 19:15 acrimoneyius wrote: Show nested quote + On January 29 2013 19:12 nomyx wrote: On January 29 2013 19:11 acrimoneyius wrote: On January 29 2013 19:09 nomyx wrote: On January 29 2013 19:06 Windows 7 wrote: On January 29 2013 19:04 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote: On January 29 2013 19:03 mrRoflpwn wrote: On January 29 2013 19:02 Corrosive wrote: On January 29 2013 19:01 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote: On January 29 2013 19:00 Vindicare605 wrote: [quote] Not at all. LosirA is playing a really good strategy but Ryung is hanging in this. LosirA isnt giving Ryung a chance to go on offense though and if he cant go on offense he'll eventually starve out. But what is terran supposed to do against this creep. are you serious? creep op? Next level balance whiners! No you explain me. How ryung shoud have done this. Where he has gone wrong. I am trying to understand what happend. I feel like he was limited by his unit composition. Marine marauder tank seems fine against queen ultra on paper, but like Tastosis said, those ultras just didn't die. Theorycrafting here but perhaps ghosts would have been able to counter that composition? Of course ghosts would have been good, Losira had most of his Queens in a pile (hard to spread off creep) so a few EMPs would be wonderful. Queens are also psionic so snipe does bonus damage. Ghosts aren't good because they're 2.5x more expensive than a marauder that can't kite. You have to get a sufficient number of ghosts to build energy before you can really do anything with them (same problem as ravens minus infrastructure concerns). If ghost was 100/150 cost it would be much more justifiable. Ghosts cost way too much minerals and have limited aggressive potential. Ghosts cost too many minerals? I thought they cost too much gas? Then terrans complained and blizzard changed it. Make up your mind... No one ever complained about Ghost's costing too much gas. Ghost's were heavily used in 2011 until they were nerfed into oblivion. Get your facts straight. Terran has too much reliance on minerals that go to other units. Ever notice most terrans have an excessive gas bank? They can't spend it on anything unless they have a few starports with techlabs. Ravens aren't good against ultra compositions. Ghost cost change was a nerf to Terran. So many clueless people in this thread! | ||
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nomyx
United States2205 Posts
On January 29 2013 19:15 acrimoneyius wrote: Show nested quote + On January 29 2013 19:12 nomyx wrote: On January 29 2013 19:11 acrimoneyius wrote: On January 29 2013 19:09 nomyx wrote: On January 29 2013 19:06 Windows 7 wrote: On January 29 2013 19:04 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote: On January 29 2013 19:03 mrRoflpwn wrote: On January 29 2013 19:02 Corrosive wrote: On January 29 2013 19:01 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote: On January 29 2013 19:00 Vindicare605 wrote: [quote] Not at all. LosirA is playing a really good strategy but Ryung is hanging in this. LosirA isnt giving Ryung a chance to go on offense though and if he cant go on offense he'll eventually starve out. But what is terran supposed to do against this creep. are you serious? creep op? Next level balance whiners! No you explain me. How ryung shoud have done this. Where he has gone wrong. I am trying to understand what happend. I feel like he was limited by his unit composition. Marine marauder tank seems fine against queen ultra on paper, but like Tastosis said, those ultras just didn't die. Theorycrafting here but perhaps ghosts would have been able to counter that composition? Of course ghosts would have been good, Losira had most of his Queens in a pile (hard to spread off creep) so a few EMPs would be wonderful. Queens are also psionic so snipe does bonus damage. Ghosts aren't good because they're 2.5x more expensive than a marauder that can't kite. You have to get a sufficient number of ghosts to build energy before you can really do anything with them (same problem as ravens minus infrastructure concerns). If ghost was 100/150 cost it would be much more justifiable. Ghosts cost way too much minerals and have limited aggressive potential. Ghosts cost too many minerals? I thought they cost too much gas? Then terrans complained and blizzard changed it. Make up your mind... No one ever complained about Ghost's costing too much gas. Ghost's were heavily used in 2011 until they were nerfed into oblivion. Get your facts straight. Terran has too much reliance on minerals that go to other units. Ever notice most terrans have an excessive gas bank? They can't spend it on anything unless they have a few starports with techlabs. Ravens aren't good against ultra compositions. Look back to 2011 when terrans were complaining about ghosts costing too much. It's just funny that the opposite is now the same. | ||
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On January 29 2013 19:16 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote: I just noticed. If Parting just goes a liiiiiittle more over the top with his cockyness. He could become the ultimate villain of sc2 i thought that was sniper | ||
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Cramsy
Australia1100 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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ThomasR
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mrRoflpwn
United States2618 Posts
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negativedge
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On January 29 2013 19:12 Insoleet wrote: Show nested quote + On January 29 2013 19:05 Qwerty85 wrote: On January 29 2013 19:00 Insoleet wrote: On January 29 2013 18:57 Vindicare605 wrote: On January 29 2013 18:57 nomyx wrote: Ryung with 2400+ gas, is this normal for terrans? When going bio? Absolutely. terrans should ts3 transition to raven when they have do much gas in bank. I met on the ladder a terran building ravens with his gas and it was absurdly strong. Ravens against ultras? Dont think so. But if he transitioned to broodlord corruptor, that could work. But again, raven is 100/200 so you still need minerals, and Ryung was starving for minerals in that game, so he couldn't really afford making starports and ravens. with building armor, auto turrets are very strong against ultra (because of their dumb ai). and then seeker missile against BL. seeker missiles are also decent against ultras. mass raven is always the way to go for terrans. Pure nonsense, Missiles are awful against Ultralisks (125 energy to remove 1/5th of an Ultralisk's hit points sounds efficient to you?) and I have no idea how this “Autoturrets are very strong against Ultralisks because they block path!” myth ever came to life, Ultralisks just chop them down very quickly then proceed to steamroll the army behind. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On January 29 2013 19:15 Waxangel wrote: did Bisu even win any of his MSLs on SKT? maybe one? the third one I think? | ||
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
Yankees are the richest because there is no salary cap, New York is the #1 media market in America, and have the most money. | ||
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On January 29 2013 19:16 Douillos wrote: Show nested quote + On January 29 2013 19:15 acrimoneyius wrote: On January 29 2013 19:12 nomyx wrote: On January 29 2013 19:11 acrimoneyius wrote: On January 29 2013 19:09 nomyx wrote: On January 29 2013 19:06 Windows 7 wrote: On January 29 2013 19:04 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote: On January 29 2013 19:03 mrRoflpwn wrote: On January 29 2013 19:02 Corrosive wrote: On January 29 2013 19:01 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote: [quote] But what is terran supposed to do against this creep. are you serious? creep op? Next level balance whiners! No you explain me. How ryung shoud have done this. Where he has gone wrong. I am trying to understand what happend. I feel like he was limited by his unit composition. Marine marauder tank seems fine against queen ultra on paper, but like Tastosis said, those ultras just didn't die. Theorycrafting here but perhaps ghosts would have been able to counter that composition? Of course ghosts would have been good, Losira had most of his Queens in a pile (hard to spread off creep) so a few EMPs would be wonderful. Queens are also psionic so snipe does bonus damage. Ghosts aren't good because they're 2.5x more expensive than a marauder that can't kite. You have to get a sufficient number of ghosts to build energy before you can really do anything with them (same problem as ravens minus infrastructure concerns). If ghost was 100/150 cost it would be much more justifiable. Ghosts cost way too much minerals and have limited aggressive potential. Ghosts cost too many minerals? I thought they cost too much gas? Then terrans complained and blizzard changed it. Make up your mind... No one ever complained about Ghost's costing too much gas. Ghost's were heavily used in 2011 until they were nerfed into oblivion. Get your facts straight. Terran has too much reliance on minerals that go to other units. Ever notice most terrans have an excessive gas bank? They can't spend it on anything unless they have a few starports with techlabs. Ravens aren't good against ultra compositions. Ghost cost change was a nerf to Terran. So many clueless people in this thread! Haha yeah, at the time everyone was going "well terran always has been mineral heavy so this is great, we don't have to mine as much gas". 1 year later every terran was floating 3k gas lategame with no minerals to spend :p | ||
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