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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
January 29 2013 10:15 GMT
#521
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro32 Group E
ByuN vs PartinG
Game 1
Map: Akilon Flats

0:00
ByuN spawns in the top left
PartinG spawns in the bottom right
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eGoRama
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria1542 Posts
January 29 2013 10:15 GMT
#522
I wonder what will happen if Losira takes a game with Spores, Spines, Drones and Overlords against Ryung. What level of whining will we witness
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
January 29 2013 10:16 GMT
#523
the correct tagline should be SKTelecom_PartinG
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
January 29 2013 10:16 GMT
#524
On January 29 2013 19:15 Waxangel wrote:
did Bisu even win any of his MSLs on SKT? maybe one?


nah, pretty sure he won all his shit on mbc.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
January 29 2013 10:16 GMT
#525
My prediction has been (in order) Parting, Byun, Losira, Ryung. I just expected the group to be a little closer outside of Parting. Also didn't expect to see a ZvT like that...
-YoricK-
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States477 Posts
January 29 2013 10:16 GMT
#526
byun always looks really nervous in the booth
eGoRama
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria1542 Posts
January 29 2013 10:16 GMT
#527
Also Byun vs Parting should be awesome only if Byun will not reach the level of stupidity like he did against Seed
Gimmeurladderpoints
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany372 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-29 10:17:36
January 29 2013 10:16 GMT
#528
I just noticed.
If Parting just goes a liiiiiittle more over the top with his cockyness. He could become the ultimate villain of sc2

Now everybody loves him. But a few more all ins. And a little more bling bling in his attitude and the hate could begin.
~Ryung~Genius~Bomber~Nestea~Liquid_Jinro~Sage~San~jjakji~Boxer~Fantasy~Polt~
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
January 29 2013 10:16 GMT
#529
On January 29 2013 19:15 acrimoneyius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 19:12 nomyx wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:11 acrimoneyius wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:09 nomyx wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:06 Windows 7 wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:04 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:03 mrRoflpwn wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:02 Corrosive wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:01 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:00 Vindicare605 wrote:
[quote]

Not at all.

LosirA is playing a really good strategy but Ryung is hanging in this. LosirA isnt giving Ryung a chance to go on offense though and if he cant go on offense he'll eventually starve out.


But what is terran supposed to do against this creep.

are you serious? creep op?


Next level balance whiners!


No you explain me. How ryung shoud have done this. Where he has gone wrong. I am trying to understand what happend.


I feel like he was limited by his unit composition. Marine marauder tank seems fine against queen ultra on paper, but like Tastosis said, those ultras just didn't die. Theorycrafting here but perhaps ghosts would have been able to counter that composition?


Of course ghosts would have been good, Losira had most of his Queens in a pile (hard to spread off creep) so a few EMPs would be wonderful. Queens are also psionic so snipe does bonus damage.


Ghosts aren't good because they're 2.5x more expensive than a marauder that can't kite. You have to get a sufficient number of ghosts to build energy before you can really do anything with them (same problem as ravens minus infrastructure concerns). If ghost was 100/150 cost it would be much more justifiable. Ghosts cost way too much minerals and have limited aggressive potential.


Ghosts cost too many minerals? I thought they cost too much gas? Then terrans complained and blizzard changed it. Make up your mind...


No one ever complained about Ghost's costing too much gas. Ghost's were heavily used in 2011 until they were nerfed into oblivion. Get your facts straight. Terran has too much reliance on minerals that go to other units. Ever notice most terrans have an excessive gas bank? They can't spend it on anything unless they have a few starports with techlabs. Ravens aren't good against ultra compositions.



Ghost cost change was a nerf to Terran. So many clueless people in this thread!
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
January 29 2013 10:16 GMT
#530
On January 29 2013 19:15 acrimoneyius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 19:12 nomyx wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:11 acrimoneyius wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:09 nomyx wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:06 Windows 7 wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:04 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:03 mrRoflpwn wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:02 Corrosive wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:01 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:00 Vindicare605 wrote:
[quote]

Not at all.

LosirA is playing a really good strategy but Ryung is hanging in this. LosirA isnt giving Ryung a chance to go on offense though and if he cant go on offense he'll eventually starve out.


But what is terran supposed to do against this creep.

are you serious? creep op?


Next level balance whiners!


No you explain me. How ryung shoud have done this. Where he has gone wrong. I am trying to understand what happend.


I feel like he was limited by his unit composition. Marine marauder tank seems fine against queen ultra on paper, but like Tastosis said, those ultras just didn't die. Theorycrafting here but perhaps ghosts would have been able to counter that composition?


Of course ghosts would have been good, Losira had most of his Queens in a pile (hard to spread off creep) so a few EMPs would be wonderful. Queens are also psionic so snipe does bonus damage.


Ghosts aren't good because they're 2.5x more expensive than a marauder that can't kite. You have to get a sufficient number of ghosts to build energy before you can really do anything with them (same problem as ravens minus infrastructure concerns). If ghost was 100/150 cost it would be much more justifiable. Ghosts cost way too much minerals and have limited aggressive potential.


Ghosts cost too many minerals? I thought they cost too much gas? Then terrans complained and blizzard changed it. Make up your mind...


No one ever complained about Ghost's costing too much gas. Ghost's were heavily used in 2011 until they were nerfed into oblivion. Get your facts straight. Terran has too much reliance on minerals that go to other units. Ever notice most terrans have an excessive gas bank? They can't spend it on anything unless they have a few starports with techlabs. Ravens aren't good against ultra compositions.


Look back to 2011 when terrans were complaining about ghosts costing too much. It's just funny that the opposite is now the same.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
January 29 2013 10:17 GMT
#531
On January 29 2013 19:16 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:
I just noticed.
If Parting just goes a liiiiiittle more over the top with his cockyness. He could become the ultimate villain of sc2


i thought that was sniper
Cramsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1100 Posts
January 29 2013 10:17 GMT
#532
AFL has a salary cap
"give me 20 minutes and I'll make them quiet" - MVP
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
January 29 2013 10:17 GMT
#533
Is tasteless trying to explain a Salary Cap?
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TL+ Member
ThomasR
Profile Joined January 2012
764 Posts
January 29 2013 10:17 GMT
#534
tasteless pretty clueless about sports lol
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
January 29 2013 10:17 GMT
#535
In hockey you have a salary cap to prevent Yankee like teams
Long live the Boss Toss!
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
January 29 2013 10:17 GMT
#536
tasteless is painfully trying to describe salary caps lol
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 29 2013 10:17 GMT
#537
On January 29 2013 19:12 Insoleet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 19:05 Qwerty85 wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:00 Insoleet wrote:
On January 29 2013 18:57 Vindicare605 wrote:
On January 29 2013 18:57 nomyx wrote:
Ryung with 2400+ gas, is this normal for terrans?


When going bio? Absolutely.

terrans should ts3 transition to raven when they have do much gas in bank. I met on the ladder a terran building ravens with his gas and it was absurdly strong.


Ravens against ultras? Dont think so. But if he transitioned to broodlord corruptor, that could work. But again, raven is 100/200 so you still need minerals, and Ryung was starving for minerals in that game, so he couldn't really afford making starports and ravens.

with building armor, auto turrets are very strong against ultra (because of their dumb ai). and then seeker missile against BL. seeker missiles are also decent against ultras.
mass raven is always the way to go for terrans.

Pure nonsense, Missiles are awful against Ultralisks (125 energy to remove 1/5th of an Ultralisk's hit points sounds efficient to you?) and I have no idea how this “Autoturrets are very strong against Ultralisks because they block path!” myth ever came to life, Ultralisks just chop them down very quickly then proceed to steamroll the army behind.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 29 2013 10:17 GMT
#538
On January 29 2013 19:15 Waxangel wrote:
did Bisu even win any of his MSLs on SKT? maybe one?


the third one I think?
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
January 29 2013 10:17 GMT
#539
Does Tasteless think we're in the 1930's?

Yankees are the richest because there is no salary cap, New York is the #1 media market in America, and have the most money.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
January 29 2013 10:17 GMT
#540
On January 29 2013 19:16 Douillos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 19:15 acrimoneyius wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:12 nomyx wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:11 acrimoneyius wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:09 nomyx wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:06 Windows 7 wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:04 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:03 mrRoflpwn wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:02 Corrosive wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:01 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:
[quote]

But what is terran supposed to do against this creep.

are you serious? creep op?


Next level balance whiners!


No you explain me. How ryung shoud have done this. Where he has gone wrong. I am trying to understand what happend.


I feel like he was limited by his unit composition. Marine marauder tank seems fine against queen ultra on paper, but like Tastosis said, those ultras just didn't die. Theorycrafting here but perhaps ghosts would have been able to counter that composition?


Of course ghosts would have been good, Losira had most of his Queens in a pile (hard to spread off creep) so a few EMPs would be wonderful. Queens are also psionic so snipe does bonus damage.


Ghosts aren't good because they're 2.5x more expensive than a marauder that can't kite. You have to get a sufficient number of ghosts to build energy before you can really do anything with them (same problem as ravens minus infrastructure concerns). If ghost was 100/150 cost it would be much more justifiable. Ghosts cost way too much minerals and have limited aggressive potential.


Ghosts cost too many minerals? I thought they cost too much gas? Then terrans complained and blizzard changed it. Make up your mind...


No one ever complained about Ghost's costing too much gas. Ghost's were heavily used in 2011 until they were nerfed into oblivion. Get your facts straight. Terran has too much reliance on minerals that go to other units. Ever notice most terrans have an excessive gas bank? They can't spend it on anything unless they have a few starports with techlabs. Ravens aren't good against ultra compositions.



Ghost cost change was a nerf to Terran. So many clueless people in this thread!


Haha yeah, at the time everyone was going "well terran always has been mineral heavy so this is great, we don't have to mine as much gas".

1 year later every terran was floating 3k gas lategame with no minerals to spend :p
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