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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33650 Posts
January 29 2013 10:19 GMT
#561
On January 29 2013 19:18 opterown wrote:
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On January 29 2013 19:17 Dodgin wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:15 Waxangel wrote:
did Bisu even win any of his MSLs on SKT? maybe one?

the third one I think?

yeah, and one of the BW GSLs as well afaik


not that a KeSPA team will pretend that was a real tournament
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
January 29 2013 10:20 GMT
#562
aww yeah cloakshees
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
January 29 2013 10:20 GMT
#563
On January 29 2013 19:19 woody60707 wrote:
baseball doesn't have a salary caps? That's so dumb.


KeSPA is even stupider.

Instead of the shittiest teams getting the top draft/waiver pick-ups, all the best free agents go to SKT or KT.

There is a reason why Proleague had KT/SKT for like three years straight.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
eGoRama
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria1542 Posts
January 29 2013 10:20 GMT
#564
On January 29 2013 19:18 Douillos wrote:
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On January 29 2013 19:15 eGoRama wrote:
I wonder what will happen if Losira takes a game with Spores, Spines, Drones and Overlords against Ryung. What level of whining will we witness



1000000000000x times less than when parting soul train Zergs. I must say I can't wait for this thread to go the other way round and tasting your tears


Testing my tears - lol what tears :D
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
January 29 2013 10:20 GMT
#565
On January 29 2013 19:19 Qwerty85 wrote:
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On January 29 2013 19:16 nomyx wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:15 acrimoneyius wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:12 nomyx wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:11 acrimoneyius wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:09 nomyx wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:06 Windows 7 wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:04 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:03 mrRoflpwn wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:02 Corrosive wrote:
[quote]
are you serious? creep op?


Next level balance whiners!


No you explain me. How ryung shoud have done this. Where he has gone wrong. I am trying to understand what happend.


I feel like he was limited by his unit composition. Marine marauder tank seems fine against queen ultra on paper, but like Tastosis said, those ultras just didn't die. Theorycrafting here but perhaps ghosts would have been able to counter that composition?


Of course ghosts would have been good, Losira had most of his Queens in a pile (hard to spread off creep) so a few EMPs would be wonderful. Queens are also psionic so snipe does bonus damage.


Ghosts aren't good because they're 2.5x more expensive than a marauder that can't kite. You have to get a sufficient number of ghosts to build energy before you can really do anything with them (same problem as ravens minus infrastructure concerns). If ghost was 100/150 cost it would be much more justifiable. Ghosts cost way too much minerals and have limited aggressive potential.


Ghosts cost too many minerals? I thought they cost too much gas? Then terrans complained and blizzard changed it. Make up your mind...


No one ever complained about Ghost's costing too much gas. Ghost's were heavily used in 2011 until they were nerfed into oblivion. Get your facts straight. Terran has too much reliance on minerals that go to other units. Ever notice most terrans have an excessive gas bank? They can't spend it on anything unless they have a few starports with techlabs. Ravens aren't good against ultra compositions.


Look back to 2011 when terrans were complaining about ghosts costing too much. It's just funny that the opposite is now the same.


Ghost costing more minerals than gas is a nerf to ghost. Just try to think when do you see ghosts in the games. TvP, bio costs minerals, if ghosts were just gas or more gas (like ht) they would be much easier to get and mass. Since they cost 200 min, you cant go crazy with them too fast unless you build up ghost count during the game (like Dream does).

So ghost costing more minerals was a nerf.


Exactly, you can use MULE to mine more minerals to help you get more ghosts out. You don't need a lot to be a effective, just a few to EMP the infestors / queens
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16124 Posts
January 29 2013 10:20 GMT
#566
hmm this map with this build order I thought I was watching HOTS for a sec.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33650 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-29 10:21:43
January 29 2013 10:21 GMT
#567
On January 29 2013 19:20 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 19:19 woody60707 wrote:
baseball doesn't have a salary caps? That's so dumb.


KeSPA is even stupider.

Instead of the shittiest teams getting the top draft/waiver pick-ups, all the best free agents go to SKT or KT.

There is a reason why Proleague had KT/SKT for like three years straight.


I don't think anyone has proven that parity is good for business across the board

NFL is the example of it working, but it's one isolated case
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-29 10:23:06
January 29 2013 10:21 GMT
#568
--- Nuked ---
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 29 2013 10:22 GMT
#569
On January 29 2013 19:20 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 19:19 woody60707 wrote:
baseball doesn't have a salary caps? That's so dumb.


KeSPA is even stupider.

Instead of the shittiest teams getting the top draft/waiver pick-ups, all the best free agents go to SKT or KT.

There is a reason why Proleague had KT/SKT for like three years straight.


It's okay it worked out, he went to the worst team in Round 2.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16124 Posts
January 29 2013 10:22 GMT
#570
On January 29 2013 19:22 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 19:20 Fionn wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:19 woody60707 wrote:
baseball doesn't have a salary caps? That's so dumb.


KeSPA is even stupider.

Instead of the shittiest teams getting the top draft/waiver pick-ups, all the best free agents go to SKT or KT.

There is a reason why Proleague had KT/SKT for like three years straight.


It's okay it worked out, he went to the worst team in Round 2.


Burn! lol.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
January 29 2013 10:22 GMT
#571
On January 29 2013 19:19 nunez wrote:
ryung simply got outplayed. losira didn't even have to use his claws.



throwing yourself at a wall for a whole game. GZ
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
January 29 2013 10:22 GMT
#572
Legend <3
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 29 2013 10:23 GMT
#573
On January 29 2013 19:19 Shellshock1122 wrote:
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On January 29 2013 19:15 Shellshock1122 wrote:
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro32 Group E
ByuN vs PartinG
Game 1
Map: Akilon Flats

0:00
ByuN spawns in the top left
PartinG spawns in the bottom right

1:40
rax first for ByuN
gateway first for PartinG

2:00
gas for PartinG
Cybernetics core for PartinG

3:00
CC on the low ground for ByuN
stalker first for PartinG
double gas for ByuN

4:00
bunker at the natural ramp for ByuN
Nexus for PartinG
sentry for PartinG
2nd gas for PartinG
Factory for ByuN

5:00
reactor for ByuN
robo for PartinG
gateway for Parting
stalker for Parting
Starport for ByuN

6:00
observer for Parting
2 more gas for Parting
gate for Parting
reactored marines for Byun
banshee production started for Byun
cloak for Byun

7:00
robotics bay for Parting
siege tank production started for Byun
2 more rax for Byun
double forge for parting
siege mode research started for Byun

8:00
ebay for ByuN
colossus production started for Parting
1-1 started for Parting
cannons going up for Parting after scouting tech lab starport
Twilight council for Parting
stalkers and observer deny cloak banshee from Parting's natural

9:00
2 more rax for Byun
+1 attack started for Byun
2 more gates for Parting
Extended thermal lance research started for Parting
stim research started for Byun
blink research started for Parting
1 observer of Parting is killed

10:00
medivac production started for Byun
Byun puts on some pressure but backs off after seeing Parting's army
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12759 Posts
January 29 2013 10:23 GMT
#574
oh god units getting stucked, happens to me so often when i go terran
I even got some ultras stucked before
wtf
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
January 29 2013 10:23 GMT
#575
I just have to randomly throw in how much I love good game spectators! Thanks Legend or whoever it is right now!
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
Windows 7
Profile Joined December 2010
United States236 Posts
January 29 2013 10:23 GMT
#576

the problem is zerg can make 10 ultras at once. terran needs 10 starports to do that. battlecruiers arent bad, its just zerg macro mechanics make them seem bad. and i dont know of any good solution to the problem. terran does have a good gas sink against lategame zerg (BC's) problem is zerg just has a infinitely better macro mechanics


Which is why it's so rare to ever see a game with Carriers or Battlecruisers and so rare to see a Zerg late game without Ultralisks or Broodlords. So sad :[
FC
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
January 29 2013 10:23 GMT
#577
Hopefully byun can make some widow mines
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
January 29 2013 10:23 GMT
#578
On January 29 2013 19:21 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 19:20 Fionn wrote:
On January 29 2013 19:19 woody60707 wrote:
baseball doesn't have a salary caps? That's so dumb.


KeSPA is even stupider.

Instead of the shittiest teams getting the top draft/waiver pick-ups, all the best free agents go to SKT or KT.

There is a reason why Proleague had KT/SKT for like three years straight.


I don't think anyone has proven that parity is good for business across the board

NFL is the example of it working, but it's one isolated case


Well yeah, KT vs. SKT is good for e-sports since they have the most popular players and biggest fan bases, but in terms of fairness it's still pretty bullshit.

Can't wait till KT ends up with Life, Creator, Mvp and SKT end up with MKP, DongRaeGu and Leenock while everyone else gets scraps.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16124 Posts
January 29 2013 10:24 GMT
#579
On January 29 2013 19:22 Douillos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 19:19 nunez wrote:
ryung simply got outplayed. losira didn't even have to use his claws.



throwing yourself at a wall for a whole game. GZ


So would you say that LosirA..... zerged his opponent to death?

As in rushed in over and over again with superior numbers until his opponent died? That's kind of what Zerg is supposed to do.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
January 29 2013 10:25 GMT
#580
Sort of liking byun's position here
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