On January 29 2013 19:18 opterown wrote:
yeah, and one of the BW GSLs as well afaik
yeah, and one of the BW GSLs as well afaik
not that a KeSPA team will pretend that was a real tournament

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Waxangel
United States33087 Posts
On January 29 2013 19:18 opterown wrote: Show nested quote + On January 29 2013 19:17 Dodgin wrote: On January 29 2013 19:15 Waxangel wrote: did Bisu even win any of his MSLs on SKT? maybe one? the third one I think? yeah, and one of the BW GSLs as well afaik not that a KeSPA team will pretend that was a real tournament ![]() | ||
Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On January 29 2013 19:19 woody60707 wrote: baseball doesn't have a salary caps? That's so dumb. KeSPA is even stupider. Instead of the shittiest teams getting the top draft/waiver pick-ups, all the best free agents go to SKT or KT. There is a reason why Proleague had KT/SKT for like three years straight. | ||
eGoRama
Bulgaria1542 Posts
On January 29 2013 19:18 Douillos wrote: Show nested quote + On January 29 2013 19:15 eGoRama wrote: I wonder what will happen if Losira takes a game with Spores, Spines, Drones and Overlords against Ryung. What level of whining will we witness ![]() 1000000000000x times less than when parting soul train Zergs. I must say I can't wait for this thread to go the other way round and tasting your tears ![]() Testing my tears - lol what tears :D | ||
nomyx
United States2205 Posts
On January 29 2013 19:19 Qwerty85 wrote: Show nested quote + On January 29 2013 19:16 nomyx wrote: On January 29 2013 19:15 acrimoneyius wrote: On January 29 2013 19:12 nomyx wrote: On January 29 2013 19:11 acrimoneyius wrote: On January 29 2013 19:09 nomyx wrote: On January 29 2013 19:06 Windows 7 wrote: On January 29 2013 19:04 Gimmeurladderpoints wrote: On January 29 2013 19:03 mrRoflpwn wrote: On January 29 2013 19:02 Corrosive wrote: [quote] are you serious? creep op? Next level balance whiners! No you explain me. How ryung shoud have done this. Where he has gone wrong. I am trying to understand what happend. I feel like he was limited by his unit composition. Marine marauder tank seems fine against queen ultra on paper, but like Tastosis said, those ultras just didn't die. Theorycrafting here but perhaps ghosts would have been able to counter that composition? Of course ghosts would have been good, Losira had most of his Queens in a pile (hard to spread off creep) so a few EMPs would be wonderful. Queens are also psionic so snipe does bonus damage. Ghosts aren't good because they're 2.5x more expensive than a marauder that can't kite. You have to get a sufficient number of ghosts to build energy before you can really do anything with them (same problem as ravens minus infrastructure concerns). If ghost was 100/150 cost it would be much more justifiable. Ghosts cost way too much minerals and have limited aggressive potential. Ghosts cost too many minerals? I thought they cost too much gas? Then terrans complained and blizzard changed it. Make up your mind... No one ever complained about Ghost's costing too much gas. Ghost's were heavily used in 2011 until they were nerfed into oblivion. Get your facts straight. Terran has too much reliance on minerals that go to other units. Ever notice most terrans have an excessive gas bank? They can't spend it on anything unless they have a few starports with techlabs. Ravens aren't good against ultra compositions. Look back to 2011 when terrans were complaining about ghosts costing too much. It's just funny that the opposite is now the same. Ghost costing more minerals than gas is a nerf to ghost. Just try to think when do you see ghosts in the games. TvP, bio costs minerals, if ghosts were just gas or more gas (like ht) they would be much easier to get and mass. Since they cost 200 min, you cant go crazy with them too fast unless you build up ghost count during the game (like Dream does). So ghost costing more minerals was a nerf. Exactly, you can use MULE to mine more minerals to help you get more ghosts out. You don't need a lot to be a effective, just a few to EMP the infestors / queens | ||
Vindicare605
United States16036 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33087 Posts
On January 29 2013 19:20 Fionn wrote: Show nested quote + On January 29 2013 19:19 woody60707 wrote: baseball doesn't have a salary caps? That's so dumb. KeSPA is even stupider. Instead of the shittiest teams getting the top draft/waiver pick-ups, all the best free agents go to SKT or KT. There is a reason why Proleague had KT/SKT for like three years straight. I don't think anyone has proven that parity is good for business across the board NFL is the example of it working, but it's one isolated case | ||
Scrubwave
Poland1786 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On January 29 2013 19:20 Fionn wrote: Show nested quote + On January 29 2013 19:19 woody60707 wrote: baseball doesn't have a salary caps? That's so dumb. KeSPA is even stupider. Instead of the shittiest teams getting the top draft/waiver pick-ups, all the best free agents go to SKT or KT. There is a reason why Proleague had KT/SKT for like three years straight. It's okay it worked out, he went to the worst team in Round 2. | ||
Vindicare605
United States16036 Posts
On January 29 2013 19:22 Dodgin wrote: Show nested quote + On January 29 2013 19:20 Fionn wrote: On January 29 2013 19:19 woody60707 wrote: baseball doesn't have a salary caps? That's so dumb. KeSPA is even stupider. Instead of the shittiest teams getting the top draft/waiver pick-ups, all the best free agents go to SKT or KT. There is a reason why Proleague had KT/SKT for like three years straight. It's okay it worked out, he went to the worst team in Round 2. Burn! lol. | ||
Douillos
France3195 Posts
On January 29 2013 19:19 nunez wrote: ryung simply got outplayed. losira didn't even have to use his claws. throwing yourself at a wall for a whole game. GZ ![]() | ||
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Shellshock
United States97274 Posts
On January 29 2013 19:19 Shellshock1122 wrote: Show nested quote + On January 29 2013 19:15 Shellshock1122 wrote: GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro32 Group E ![]() ![]() Game 1 Map: Akilon Flats 0:00 ![]() ![]() 1:40 rax first for ByuN gateway first for PartinG 2:00 gas for PartinG Cybernetics core for PartinG 3:00 CC on the low ground for ByuN stalker first for PartinG double gas for ByuN 4:00 bunker at the natural ramp for ByuN Nexus for PartinG sentry for PartinG 2nd gas for PartinG Factory for ByuN 5:00 reactor for ByuN robo for PartinG gateway for Parting stalker for Parting Starport for ByuN 6:00 observer for Parting 2 more gas for Parting gate for Parting reactored marines for Byun banshee production started for Byun cloak for Byun 7:00 robotics bay for Parting siege tank production started for Byun 2 more rax for Byun double forge for parting siege mode research started for Byun 8:00 ebay for ByuN colossus production started for Parting 1-1 started for Parting cannons going up for Parting after scouting tech lab starport Twilight council for Parting stalkers and observer deny cloak banshee from Parting's natural 9:00 2 more rax for Byun +1 attack started for Byun 2 more gates for Parting Extended thermal lance research started for Parting stim research started for Byun blink research started for Parting 1 observer of Parting is killed 10:00 medivac production started for Byun Byun puts on some pressure but backs off after seeing Parting's army | ||
ETisME
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Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Germany2959 Posts
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Windows 7
United States236 Posts
the problem is zerg can make 10 ultras at once. terran needs 10 starports to do that. battlecruiers arent bad, its just zerg macro mechanics make them seem bad. and i dont know of any good solution to the problem. terran does have a good gas sink against lategame zerg (BC's) problem is zerg just has a infinitely better macro mechanics Which is why it's so rare to ever see a game with Carriers or Battlecruisers and so rare to see a Zerg late game without Ultralisks or Broodlords. So sad :[ | ||
nomyx
United States2205 Posts
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On January 29 2013 19:21 Waxangel wrote: Show nested quote + On January 29 2013 19:20 Fionn wrote: On January 29 2013 19:19 woody60707 wrote: baseball doesn't have a salary caps? That's so dumb. KeSPA is even stupider. Instead of the shittiest teams getting the top draft/waiver pick-ups, all the best free agents go to SKT or KT. There is a reason why Proleague had KT/SKT for like three years straight. I don't think anyone has proven that parity is good for business across the board NFL is the example of it working, but it's one isolated case Well yeah, KT vs. SKT is good for e-sports since they have the most popular players and biggest fan bases, but in terms of fairness it's still pretty bullshit. Can't wait till KT ends up with Life, Creator, Mvp and SKT end up with MKP, DongRaeGu and Leenock while everyone else gets scraps. | ||
Vindicare605
United States16036 Posts
On January 29 2013 19:22 Douillos wrote: Show nested quote + On January 29 2013 19:19 nunez wrote: ryung simply got outplayed. losira didn't even have to use his claws. throwing yourself at a wall for a whole game. GZ ![]() So would you say that LosirA..... zerged his opponent to death? As in rushed in over and over again with superior numbers until his opponent died? That's kind of what Zerg is supposed to do. | ||
Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
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