On January 26 2013 22:21 ES.Genie wrote: [quote] Wasn't Seed hyped by Tastless?
Yep. A year earlier >_>
guess Tasteless hype is legit but it takes a really long time and doesn't last long.
Well he also predicted Jjakji to win GSL November :D Meanwhile Yonghwa is still trying to get to Code S...
"Never ever gonna happen"
Haha this video is pure gold :D
But it was the reasonable choice to expect. We were hoping for Puzzle to finally shed his wildcard skin and become the best Protoss in the world as Artosis foretold. If not, Oz surely would have not fucked around and just crushed Jjakji right? And if not, Leenock's performance that was solid enough to destroy an in-form Mvp would surely be enough? Right?
Don't get me wrong, the finals were awesome. But all the lucky stars had to align for Jjakji to obtain a somewhat flukish championship. Hell, I'll even go so far as to say that if not for the CoCa incident (T_T) he would never have gotten to the quarters, and we could have had a zerg champion that season, either Leenock or CoCa. ^^
you're blind if you can't see that Jjakji played the cleanest TvZ in that final, Coca was imba vP at that time but his other mu weren't up to par. And his thor/banshee/marine build was innovative and awesome :p
I don't think we're disputing Jjakji played a marvelous TvZ at one time, it's just I'm sure almost nobody thought Jjakji would make it far let alone win until he suddenly beat Leenock out of nowhere in one of the best series ever.
Coca never had a chance though. He was only really known for ZvP at the time.
Quite the opposite. Think about it. CoCa vs Puzzle. Surely CoCa would win? Then CoCa vs Oz. And the finals would be a ZvZ, where CoCa was proficient enough to beat an in-form DongRaeGu at Raleigh. ^^
DRG's ZvZ was anything but impressive in those days. I remember he struggled to beat Fruitdealer at an IEM. Leenock was probably still better. Also Coca still had Gumiho and MVP in his group. He'd likely have lost to both of them and Jjakji.
On January 26 2013 22:19 MasterOfPuppets wrote: [quote]
How unfortunate yet somehow expected that the guy who broke the IM Protoss curse (that they will always be hyped by Artosis and fail to deliver) succumbed to it yet again shortly thereafter.
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Wasn't Seed hyped by Tastless?
Yep. A year earlier >_>
guess Tasteless hype is legit but it takes a really long time and doesn't last long.
Well he also predicted Jjakji to win GSL November :D Meanwhile Yonghwa is still trying to get to Code S...
But it was the reasonable choice to expect. We were hoping for Puzzle to finally shed his wildcard skin and become the best Protoss in the world as Artosis foretold. If not, Oz surely would have not fucked around and just crushed Jjakji right? And if not, Leenock's performance that was solid enough to destroy an in-form Mvp would surely be enough? Right?
Don't get me wrong, the finals were awesome. But all the lucky stars had to align for Jjakji to obtain a somewhat flukish championship. Hell, I'll even go so far as to say that if not for the CoCa incident (T_T) he would never have gotten to the quarters, and we could have had a zerg champion that season, either Leenock or CoCa. ^^
you're blind if you can't see that Jjakji played the cleanest TvZ in that final. And his thor/banshee/marine build was innovative and awesome :p
You're the blind one since you can't read what I said. The finals were awesome. Everything leading to the finals from Jjakji's part was absolutely underwhelming, unlikely and downright lucky. >_>
you said that CoCa would have stopped him while Jjakji had the best TvZ in this GSL and CoCa was average in the match up.
Then you realize this is SC2, where one day you win a championship and the next season you're relegated to Code B. Like I said, everything leading up to the finals was completely underwhelming on Jjakji's side of the bracket. He did not impress whatsoever. Which leads me to believe that he was simply not very good, until suddenly he realized that he's in the finals and went to practice his ass off in preparation for a *Best of 7*. Group stages don't work out quite the same.
In fact CoCa could have stopped him even without playing [against him], by beating GuMiHo and then Mvp, after which Mvp's godlike mirror matchup would be enough for Jjakji.
But it was the reasonable choice to expect. We were hoping for Puzzle to finally shed his wildcard skin and become the best Protoss in the world as Artosis foretold. If not, Oz surely would have not fucked around and just crushed Jjakji right? And if not, Leenock's performance that was solid enough to destroy an in-form Mvp would surely be enough? Right?
Don't get me wrong, the finals were awesome. But all the lucky stars had to align for Jjakji to obtain a somewhat flukish championship. Hell, I'll even go so far as to say that if not for the CoCa incident (T_T) he would never have gotten to the quarters, and we could have had a zerg champion that season, either Leenock or CoCa. ^^
you're blind if you can't see that Jjakji played the cleanest TvZ in that final. And his thor/banshee/marine build was innovative and awesome :p
You're the blind one since you can't read what I said. The finals were awesome. Everything leading to the finals from Jjakji's part was absolutely underwhelming, unlikely and downright lucky. >_>
you said that CoCa would have stopped him while Jjakji had the best TvZ in this GSL and CoCa was average in the match up.
Then you realize this is SC2, where one day you win a championship and the next season you're relegated to Code B. Like I said, everything leading up to the finals was completely underwhelming on Jjakji's side of the bracket. He did not impress whatsoever. Which leads me to believe that he was simply not very good, until suddenly he realized that he's in the finals and went to practice his ass off in preparation for a *Best of 7*. Group stages don't work out quite the same.
In fact CoCa could have stopped him even without playing, by beating GuMiHo and then Mvp, after which Mvp's godlike mirror matchup would be enough for Jjakji.
CoCa was nothing more (and has never be nothing more) than a ZvP specialist. The probability he beats both Gumiho and Mvp is so fucking low that it's not even necessary to consider it. Jjakji has been good vZ after his championship win, his vP was average and vT sucked quickly but his vZ was his best match up for a while. There is no magic involved.
EPT
