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JOJOsc2news
3000 Posts
On January 07 2013 07:08 Emzeeshady wrote: This is the standard group format rules in all of sports. Even if you don't agree it is not going away any time soon. Btw Yoda is the man :D I was really blown away by his performance. Also, I don't mind the group format at all. It made for a really exciting first day in my opinion. | ||
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MasterKang
United States1373 Posts
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AstroPegnuin
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Siune
Finland124 Posts
I hope he makes it tho next season. Really surprised by Jaedong, tho it's "just" the third place. Positive surprise. Haven't seen the games themself tho. And really really happy for Yoda. I hope it's his time to shine and goes all the way to the historybooks! | ||
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ChrysaliS_
United States261 Posts
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Yusei
Canada27 Posts
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munchmunch
Canada789 Posts
MC 2-0 Jaedong 1-1 Flash 0-2 And people really think that Flash should advance because he beat Yoda? | ||
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SniXSniPe
United States1938 Posts
I blame the fact that GSL is 99% of the time on at 4:00 AM in the morning... | ||
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decado90
United States480 Posts
On January 07 2013 08:16 munchmunch wrote: Complaints about the format and direct comparison are strange, and I'm a flash fan. Look, obviously the person with the most wins should advance out of the group, right? You've got three people with a 3-2 score. To resolve the tie, imagine that these players had just played each other in a 3 man group. Then the scores would be: MC 2-0 Jaedong 1-1 Flash 0-2 And people really think that Flash should advance because he beat Yoda? Well he soundly beat the player with the best score in the group in the matchup most indicative of skill and finished 3-2 with 2 losses to all ins. This format is just stupid imo. Smaller groups with bo3's (like GSL Ro32 and 16) are much more rewarding to the better player. Do you think MC would have stood a chance in a best of 5? Heavens no, not even the slightest. The sad thing is that the best player in the group didn't advance and it's simply because of the format. This GSL season will be a farce because the most talented player in the history of gaming isn't in it. But hey, SPL gets more viewers than GSL already, doesn't crash and lag incessantly, isn't overpriced, and the viewer can actually see the supply counts on the free stream. Kespa is probably smiling at Gom's incompetence. | ||
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xN.07)MaK
Spain1159 Posts
On January 07 2013 08:26 decado90 wrote: Well he soundly beat the player with the best score in the group in the matchup most indicative of skill and finished 3-2 with 2 losses to all ins. This format is just stupid imo. Smaller groups with bo3's (like GSL Ro32 and 16) are much more rewarding to the better player. Do you think MC would have stood a chance in a best of 5? Heavens no, not even the slightest. The sad thing is that the best player in the group didn't advance and it's simply because of the format. This GSL season will be a farce because the most talented player in the history of gaming isn't in it. But hey, SPL gets more viewers than GSL already, doesn't crash and lag incessantly, isn't overpriced, and the viewer can actually see the supply counts on the free stream. Kespa is probably smiling at Gom's incompetence. Yoda was code S already at the time of the match, if I'm not mistaken. | ||
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Muffloe
Sweden6061 Posts
On January 07 2013 08:26 decado90 wrote: Well he soundly beat the player with the best score in the group in the matchup most indicative of skill and finished 3-2 with 2 losses to all ins. This format is just stupid imo. Smaller groups with bo3's (like GSL Ro32 and 16) are much more rewarding to the better player. Do you think MC would have stood a chance in a best of 5? Heavens no, not even the slightest. The sad thing is that the best player in the group didn't advance and it's simply because of the format. This GSL season will be a farce because the most talented player in the history of gaming isn't in it. But hey, SPL gets more viewers than GSL already, doesn't crash and lag incessantly, isn't overpriced, and the viewer can actually see the supply counts on the free stream. Kespa is probably smiling at Gom's incompetence. Hrm.. I am pretty sure that MC has won more bo5's against notable opponents than I even care to count for | ||
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Ammanas
Slovakia2166 Posts
On January 07 2013 06:21 Havik_ wrote: And who the hell expected Yoda out of all those other players to make it to Code S. Like... everyone with half a brain, who is not Flash and/or Jaedong fanboy? Much more surprising that MC got through, not Yoda. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
On January 07 2013 08:26 decado90 wrote: Well he soundly beat the player with the best score in the group in the matchup most indicative of skill and finished 3-2 with 2 losses to all ins. This format is just stupid imo. Smaller groups with bo3's (like GSL Ro32 and 16) are much more rewarding to the better player. Do you think MC would have stood a chance in a best of 5? Heavens no, not even the slightest. The sad thing is that the best player in the group didn't advance and it's simply because of the format. This GSL season will be a farce because the most talented player in the history of gaming isn't in it. But hey, SPL gets more viewers than GSL already, doesn't crash and lag incessantly, isn't overpriced, and the viewer can actually see the supply counts on the free stream. Kespa is probably smiling at Gom's incompetence. The rules were very clearly stated before the games started, and according to the rules flash did not advance. And why is TvT the match most indicative of skill? That is an opinion which holds no relevance in this matter, yet you state it as a fact. Gom does not release viewing figures, so how do you know that SPL gets more viewers? Everything you say is your own poorly justified opinion and has no apparent factual basis. | ||
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Muffloe
Sweden6061 Posts
On January 07 2013 08:32 Muffloe wrote: Hrm.. I am pretty sure that MC has won more bo5's against notable opponents than I even care to count for And I believe your are overrating Flash abit here, I mean aint Boxer considered the greatest progamer ever? | ||
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decado90
United States480 Posts
On January 07 2013 08:36 hzflank wrote: The rules were very clearly stated before the games started, and according to the rules flash did not advance. And why is TvT the match most indicative of skill? That is an opinion which holds no relevance in this matter, yet you state it as a fact. Gom does not release viewing figures, so how do you know that SPL gets more viewers? Everything you say is your own poorly justified opinion and has no apparent factual basis. Playhem released data of thousands of games a while back regarding Pros vs non pro matches. In TvT, the pro won 90% of the time (the highest % of all matchups) In contrast, PvP was at 75%. Poorly justified opinion with no apparent factual basis indeed. | ||
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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SecondHand
United States329 Posts
Maybe Mvp's quote is finally coming true. | ||
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decado90
United States480 Posts
On January 07 2013 08:42 Emzeeshady wrote: Everything in bold is either not true, your opinion or made up. In order,: 1) Read my previous post proving TvT is the matchup most indicative of skill 2) Well the term "all in" is in of itself subjective. But, Jaedong's seemd to be a pretty standard 3 base muta ling bane all in. Also, 1 zealot + 2 stalker before nexus is no where near standard and if it didn't do damage MC would have been quite far behind. Point noted though. 3) + 4) My opinion of course 5) http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players/detailed-elo#tblt-11080-1-3-DESC No one comes close, but hey I guess you could also say Michael Jordan isn't the best NBA player of all time so it's indeed an "opinion" 6) Remember when Gom used twitch to stream their games for a few weeks? Tell me about those mind boggling numbers. Oh wait, they are lower than SPL receives, like I asserted. 7) Opinion, but I don't think a rival company would be too upset that thousands of people suffered from a laggy and low quality Gom stream yesterday | ||
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SecondHand
United States329 Posts
On January 07 2013 08:42 Emzeeshady wrote: Everything in bold is either not true, your opinion or made up. So all in all a pretty awful post. Decado is just an angry fanboy.. lol | ||
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LeafMeAlone
United States301 Posts
He does have some decent points though, I'm fairly certain that Flash would've won vs MC in a Bo3/5 ezpz. Probably could beat JD too since it looked to me like JD did a one-time sniper build just for Flash in their game. And Flash beat Yoda who went 5-1 overall heh. Not saying the rules should be bent or anything, just saying that the format of the Up & Downs doesn't really get the best players. | ||
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