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Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
January 06 2013 20:13 GMT
#3041
On January 07 2013 05:10 coasts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 04:45 Emzeeshady wrote:
On January 07 2013 04:40 iamho wrote:
Flash certainly has a lot of haters in the sc2 community. EGTL fans or what?

I don't hate Flash.

I hate Flash fans. I am happy when he loses because then I don't have to read their annoying delusional comments.

I feel the same way about Stephano and his fans, except even when he loses you still have to deal with delusional comments, just less of them.


I agree, but Flash is GOD so deserves the fanboyism.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
January 06 2013 20:26 GMT
#3042
Ah, nothing better than seeing Jaedong crush Flash.
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-06 20:33:57
January 06 2013 20:33 GMT
#3043
On January 07 2013 02:58 decado90 wrote:
GSL about 100x less interesting for me now. Sad that a player like Stephano gets a free welfare seed into Code S, while Flash makes it through the Code A qualifiers, goes 3-2 in his Up and Down group, beating the guy that was 5-0, destroying every macro game he played, and doesn't advance.

Horrible format.


Wtf what has Flash done in sc2 to deserve a seed to code S? Stephano has deserved this by winning multiple championships for over a year just like MC,DRG deserved there free code S spot when they got knocked out of GSL but then they won a lot of tournaments after and got a deserved seed. How many sc2 tournaments has flash won remind me?

You properly very disappointed that flash again didn't make it to code s but take it out on Stephano or the format is just delusional
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-06 20:43:13
January 06 2013 20:41 GMT
#3044
On January 07 2013 03:29 decado90 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 03:24 Godwrath wrote:
On January 07 2013 03:19 LighT. wrote:

Recall, flash in sc;bw. When they realized you cant win a macro game against him 2010. Kespa teams set sniper
Aftet sniper using various cheese and unorthodox timings to put him down. They succeeded until flash went for a builld set for a macro game, but making it impossible to cheese at the same
Time, thus the 1.5 years of pure domination


God is a cockroach.


I am loving the elephant fanboy tears.



One of the games he lost was to Jaedong ( a gargantuan elephant), and the other he just got punished by a risky MC build (shocker).

Don't forget he destroyed Taeja and Hero earlier-- 2 of the best players in the world.

He'll make it through this Bo1 crap eventually, and the entire scene will change when he gets into Code S.


Were´nt his wins against Taeja and HerO "bo1 crap" either? Or is there any difference between bo1 Proleague and bo1 Up&Down? And if I read the LR correctly, Flash had a risky (=greedy) build as well. And if you play greedy and get caught out, you lose. Shocker indeed.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 06 2013 21:01 GMT
#3045
Wow Jaedong like uggg if he hadn't made such a huge fuck up vs mc he would be in code S after his advantage. At least he gets one last shot at code S. :D
When I think of something else, something will go here
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
January 06 2013 21:03 GMT
#3046
On January 07 2013 05:41 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 03:29 decado90 wrote:
On January 07 2013 03:24 Godwrath wrote:
On January 07 2013 03:19 LighT. wrote:

Recall, flash in sc;bw. When they realized you cant win a macro game against him 2010. Kespa teams set sniper
Aftet sniper using various cheese and unorthodox timings to put him down. They succeeded until flash went for a builld set for a macro game, but making it impossible to cheese at the same
Time, thus the 1.5 years of pure domination


God is a cockroach.


I am loving the elephant fanboy tears.



One of the games he lost was to Jaedong ( a gargantuan elephant), and the other he just got punished by a risky MC build (shocker).

Don't forget he destroyed Taeja and Hero earlier-- 2 of the best players in the world.

He'll make it through this Bo1 crap eventually, and the entire scene will change when he gets into Code S.


Were´nt his wins against Taeja and HerO "bo1 crap" either? Or is there any difference between bo1 Proleague and bo1 Up&Down? And if I read the LR correctly, Flash had a risky (=greedy) build as well. And if you play greedy and get caught out, you lose. Shocker indeed.


MC's build wasn't even risky- he expanded after making zealot stalker and then followed it up with some more stalkers after seeing Flash built no bunker- very standard stuff.
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
January 06 2013 21:05 GMT
#3047
Alright! Jaedong still has a shot! Did not expect to Yoda to top this group. Wow.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
January 06 2013 21:09 GMT
#3048
I agree that this is a horrrible format. It is stupidly random that players advance just because of direct comparison, I hate that in every group format.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
January 06 2013 21:12 GMT
#3049
On January 07 2013 06:03 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 05:41 Xoronius wrote:
On January 07 2013 03:29 decado90 wrote:
On January 07 2013 03:24 Godwrath wrote:
On January 07 2013 03:19 LighT. wrote:

Recall, flash in sc;bw. When they realized you cant win a macro game against him 2010. Kespa teams set sniper
Aftet sniper using various cheese and unorthodox timings to put him down. They succeeded until flash went for a builld set for a macro game, but making it impossible to cheese at the same
Time, thus the 1.5 years of pure domination


God is a cockroach.


I am loving the elephant fanboy tears.



One of the games he lost was to Jaedong ( a gargantuan elephant), and the other he just got punished by a risky MC build (shocker).

Don't forget he destroyed Taeja and Hero earlier-- 2 of the best players in the world.

He'll make it through this Bo1 crap eventually, and the entire scene will change when he gets into Code S.


Were´nt his wins against Taeja and HerO "bo1 crap" either? Or is there any difference between bo1 Proleague and bo1 Up&Down? And if I read the LR correctly, Flash had a risky (=greedy) build as well. And if you play greedy and get caught out, you lose. Shocker indeed.


MC's build wasn't even risky- he expanded after making zealot stalker and then followed it up with some more stalkers after seeing Flash built no bunker- very standard stuff.


I was not there during this game, i just read the comments. However, judging MC´s build was not my point in that comment, I just wrote "as well", because I was not to sure and did´nt want to get murdered by Flash-fans.
Empirimancer
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada1024 Posts
January 06 2013 21:15 GMT
#3050
Huh. After Flash's 4 perfectly played games against EGTL I figured he'd get out of this group easily.

Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-06 21:20:31
January 06 2013 21:19 GMT
#3051
It sounds to me like MC probably used his standard FE build: see here. Which, as you'll see if you read the guide, isn't risky. It's safe to a fault. (Apologies if I'm wrong, because I can't get to the VOD. I don't subscribe to GOM T___T)

If MC had discovered a bunker in front of an expansion, he would have pulled back with the poke and continued his build. He saw a vulnerability, though, so he attacked it.

If Flash wasn't ready for a poke timing in a build that MC does often enough for it to carry his name in a guide on TL, that's on him. Either he misread MC's build and thought he wouldn't need a bunker as early as he did, or he physically couldn't have gotten a bunker in time and his build was faulty. Either way, Flash got outplayed this time.

Since Flash is one of the best players in the world, he's going to study the replay and adjust his strategy next time he tries that. But if Flash was as willing to handwave his losses as some of his fans are, he'd be a B-team pro at best.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
January 06 2013 21:21 GMT
#3052
How good was Flash vs Jaedong? Did it live up to the hype? Did the whole group live up to the hype? And who the hell expected Yoda out of all those other players to make it to Code S.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
January 06 2013 21:22 GMT
#3053
Oh wow. Flash not even advancing and jd pulling off a win and getting a wild card. And yaaaaaay MC!!
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 06 2013 21:25 GMT
#3054
On January 07 2013 06:21 Havik_ wrote:
How good was Flash vs Jaedong? Did it live up to the hype? Did the whole group live up to the hype? And who the hell expected Yoda out of all those other players to make it to Code S.


It was a pretty 1 sided game iirc.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
January 06 2013 21:26 GMT
#3055
On January 07 2013 06:21 Havik_ wrote:
How good was Flash vs Jaedong? Did it live up to the hype?


Not that good. Game reminded me of a MKP tvz where MKP doesn't scout and banes are morphing outside his base and then they roll in due to no bunkers and supply depots down cause that's exactly how flash lost.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
January 06 2013 21:32 GMT
#3056
MC crushing dreams and liquibets.

Bosstoss is as bosstoss does.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Sooooil
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany497 Posts
January 06 2013 21:54 GMT
#3057
On January 07 2013 06:15 Empirimancer wrote:
Huh. After Flash's 4 perfectly played games against EGTL I figured he'd get out of this group easily.



perfectly played? I mean, yeah he won, but against Revival (only one I caught without being tired as fuck) he had moments were i thought Revival would take it. A win isn't the same thing as perfection.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10160 Posts
January 06 2013 21:59 GMT
#3058
flash nooo TT.TT
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-06 22:04:46
January 06 2013 22:04 GMT
#3059
On January 07 2013 06:26 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 06:21 Havik_ wrote:
How good was Flash vs Jaedong? Did it live up to the hype?


Not that good. Game reminded me of a MKP tvz where MKP doesn't scout and banes are morphing outside his base and then they roll in due to no bunkers and supply depots down cause that's exactly how flash lost.


Well that and flash got super super late siege tech. I mean it just started when jaedongs muta/ling/bane timing was about to hit xD

But if you can watch it, watch it cause it's always worth watching jaedong
When I think of something else, something will go here
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-06 22:08:32
January 06 2013 22:08 GMT
#3060
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