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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 06 2013 18:13 GMT
#3001
On January 07 2013 02:58 decado90 wrote:
GSL about 100x less interesting for me now. Sad that a player like Stephano gets a free welfare seed into Code S, while Flash makes it through the Code A qualifiers, goes 3-2 in his Up and Down group, beating the guy that was 5-0, destroying every macro game he played, and doesn't advance.

Horrible format.


If GOM had given one of the players who went 3-2 the spot without actual reasoning, there would be reason for whining. Now, I don't feel there is. This format has been the same for a year - Jaedong won the head-to-head between the two and MC beat them both. Flash advancing over the guys who beat him; that would be horrible.
I doubt he'll complain though - he'll just work harder while his fans blame the format.
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
January 06 2013 18:14 GMT
#3002
On January 07 2013 03:12 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 01:29 erw wrote:
funny after a million seasons of gsl you complain about the format now because flash was eliminated, ok.

I would never have watched this tournament if it wasn't for Flash and Jaedong. That's why - I at least - haven't been complaining about this arbitrary system before.


Do you know what arbitrary means?
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
January 06 2013 18:19 GMT
#3003
Flash would never accept a free pass either and its been directly stated by him in the past. He was told he was in consideration of a seed but he wouldnt accept getting on his name value alone, believing you have to prove yourself to get to that position.
Yes he destroys everyone when theres a macro game lately unless youre a T or your name is life but he made a blunder and couldnt get to that point. Its a learning experience.

Recall, flash in sc;bw. When they realized you cant win a macro game against him 2010. Kespa teams set sniper
Aftet sniper using various cheese and unorthodox timings to put him down. They succeeded until flash went for a builld set for a macro game, but making it impossible to cheese at the same
Time, thus the 1.5 years of pure domination
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
January 06 2013 18:22 GMT
#3004
On January 07 2013 03:12 decado90 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 00:13 LighT. wrote:
Hmm...
The only way to appease everyone here is a bo7 flash/stephano for code s seed



haha, Oh god. I can imagine the 4-0 Flash win now.

And people complaining flash got unfair treatment, stephano hasnt adjusted to Korea, god doesnt exist etc.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10121 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-06 18:25:06
January 06 2013 18:24 GMT
#3005
On January 07 2013 03:19 LighT. wrote:

Recall, flash in sc;bw. When they realized you cant win a macro game against him 2010. Kespa teams set sniper
Aftet sniper using various cheese and unorthodox timings to put him down. They succeeded until flash went for a builld set for a macro game, but making it impossible to cheese at the same
Time, thus the 1.5 years of pure domination


God is a cockroach.


I am loving the elephant fanboy tears.
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
January 06 2013 18:27 GMT
#3006
On January 07 2013 03:24 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 03:19 LighT. wrote:

Recall, flash in sc;bw. When they realized you cant win a macro game against him 2010. Kespa teams set sniper
Aftet sniper using various cheese and unorthodox timings to put him down. They succeeded until flash went for a builld set for a macro game, but making it impossible to cheese at the same
Time, thus the 1.5 years of pure domination


God is a cockroach.


I am loving the elephant fanboy tears.

Youre loving the fact that fans of a player is upset they lost? What a little sadist you are.
Dont understand the cOckroach thing
decado90
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States480 Posts
January 06 2013 18:29 GMT
#3007
On January 07 2013 03:24 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 03:19 LighT. wrote:

Recall, flash in sc;bw. When they realized you cant win a macro game against him 2010. Kespa teams set sniper
Aftet sniper using various cheese and unorthodox timings to put him down. They succeeded until flash went for a builld set for a macro game, but making it impossible to cheese at the same
Time, thus the 1.5 years of pure domination


God is a cockroach.


I am loving the elephant fanboy tears.



One of the games he lost was to Jaedong ( a gargantuan elephant), and the other he just got punished by a risky MC build (shocker).

Don't forget he destroyed Taeja and Hero earlier-- 2 of the best players in the world.

He'll make it through this Bo1 crap eventually, and the entire scene will change when he gets into Code S.
"Be formless like water"- Bruce Lee
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10121 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-06 18:34:55
January 06 2013 18:31 GMT
#3008
On January 07 2013 03:27 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 03:24 Godwrath wrote:
On January 07 2013 03:19 LighT. wrote:

Recall, flash in sc;bw. When they realized you cant win a macro game against him 2010. Kespa teams set sniper
Aftet sniper using various cheese and unorthodox timings to put him down. They succeeded until flash went for a builld set for a macro game, but making it impossible to cheese at the same
Time, thus the 1.5 years of pure domination


God is a cockroach.


I am loving the elephant fanboy tears.

Youre loving the fact that fans of a player is upset they lost? What a little sadist you are.
Dont understand the cOckroach thing


Yup i am a sadist, reading how they are being totally irrational and speaking crazy stuff has nothing to do with it.

One of the games he lost was to Jaedong ( a gargantuan elephant), and the other he just got punished by a risky MC build (shocker).

Don't forget he destroyed Taeja and Hero earlier-- 2 of the best players in the world.

He'll make it through this Bo1 crap eventually, and the entire scene will change when he gets into Code S.


See ? LoL. Btw, you are talking about SPL (or should they just seed him because of that ?), and i am not saying Flash is bad. Hell, being on code A should be an achievement at this point. I am just having fun with your responses (not only yours, but all the "the format is bad!!1!1!"). And you probably are a Flash Fanboy. And Flash is considered an elephant. :D
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2547 Posts
January 06 2013 18:32 GMT
#3009
Jaedong won the first JvF, i'm happy!
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
January 06 2013 18:38 GMT
#3010
On January 07 2013 03:31 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 03:27 LighT. wrote:
On January 07 2013 03:24 Godwrath wrote:
On January 07 2013 03:19 LighT. wrote:

Recall, flash in sc;bw. When they realized you cant win a macro game against him 2010. Kespa teams set sniper
Aftet sniper using various cheese and unorthodox timings to put him down. They succeeded until flash went for a builld set for a macro game, but making it impossible to cheese at the same
Time, thus the 1.5 years of pure domination


God is a cockroach.


I am loving the elephant fanboy tears.

Youre loving the fact that fans of a player is upset they lost? What a little sadist you are.
Dont understand the cOckroach thing


Yup i am a sadist, reading how they are being totally irrational and speaking crazy stuff has nothing to do with it.

Show nested quote +
One of the games he lost was to Jaedong ( a gargantuan elephant), and the other he just got punished by a risky MC build (shocker).

Don't forget he destroyed Taeja and Hero earlier-- 2 of the best players in the world.

He'll make it through this Bo1 crap eventually, and the entire scene will change when he gets into Code S.


See ? LoL. Btw, you are talking about SPL (or should they just seed him because of that ?), and i am not saying Flash is bad. Hell, being on code A should be an achievement at this point. I am just having fun with your responses. And you probably are a Flash Fanboy. And Flash is considered an elephant. :D
okay... But why would you derive pleasure to it? Im understanding that some of the arguments are irrational but dont see why you be 'loving' it. Fans are like that for all high tiered players whether it be stephano, bisu, naniwa etc.
Still dont understand 'god is a cockroach' eitef
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
January 06 2013 18:39 GMT
#3011
It all comes down to Jaedong vs Flash. God was favored by most estimates, having shown better results in SC2.

But he lost. Better blame him than the format. And of course, praise Jaedong.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Darkshark
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany27 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-06 18:42:23
January 06 2013 18:42 GMT
#3012
Well, if you consider, that Flash isn't that long in SC2, then a Code A spot is great! Eventhough he was the best BW player. Give him some time and we will see him in Code S sure.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10121 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-06 18:42:55
January 06 2013 18:42 GMT
#3013
On January 07 2013 03:38 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 03:31 Godwrath wrote:
On January 07 2013 03:27 LighT. wrote:
On January 07 2013 03:24 Godwrath wrote:
On January 07 2013 03:19 LighT. wrote:

Recall, flash in sc;bw. When they realized you cant win a macro game against him 2010. Kespa teams set sniper
Aftet sniper using various cheese and unorthodox timings to put him down. They succeeded until flash went for a builld set for a macro game, but making it impossible to cheese at the same
Time, thus the 1.5 years of pure domination


God is a cockroach.


I am loving the elephant fanboy tears.

Youre loving the fact that fans of a player is upset they lost? What a little sadist you are.
Dont understand the cOckroach thing


Yup i am a sadist, reading how they are being totally irrational and speaking crazy stuff has nothing to do with it.

One of the games he lost was to Jaedong ( a gargantuan elephant), and the other he just got punished by a risky MC build (shocker).

Don't forget he destroyed Taeja and Hero earlier-- 2 of the best players in the world.

He'll make it through this Bo1 crap eventually, and the entire scene will change when he gets into Code S.


See ? LoL. Btw, you are talking about SPL (or should they just seed him because of that ?), and i am not saying Flash is bad. Hell, being on code A should be an achievement at this point. I am just having fun with your responses. And you probably are a Flash Fanboy. And Flash is considered an elephant. :D
okay... But why would you derive pleasure to it? Im understanding that some of the arguments are irrational but dont see why you be 'loving' it. Fans are like that for all high tiered players whether it be stephano, bisu, naniwa etc.
Still dont understand 'god is a cockroach' eitef


Don't bother too much with the roach thing, it was as a compliment of resilience, but if i have to explain it, it's because it was dumb on my part. And i am not a psychiatrist, so i can't really answer you why i have pleasure reading the same complains about OSL at the GSL just because of how biased people is for their favorite players.
decado90
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States480 Posts
January 06 2013 18:47 GMT
#3014
The Yoda result was no shock-- he's been performing well lately and if you download the IPL 5 replays you'll see that he's by far the fastest player in SC2.

Flash was obviously favored to come out of the group too, but lost to a couple of all ins. Hopefully JD makes it through Wild Card, though his play hasn't looked nearly as good as Flash's.
"Be formless like water"- Bruce Lee
VManOfMana
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States764 Posts
January 06 2013 18:47 GMT
#3015
On January 07 2013 03:38 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 03:31 Godwrath wrote:
On January 07 2013 03:27 LighT. wrote:
On January 07 2013 03:24 Godwrath wrote:
On January 07 2013 03:19 LighT. wrote:

Recall, flash in sc;bw. When they realized you cant win a macro game against him 2010. Kespa teams set sniper
Aftet sniper using various cheese and unorthodox timings to put him down. They succeeded until flash went for a builld set for a macro game, but making it impossible to cheese at the same
Time, thus the 1.5 years of pure domination


God is a cockroach.


I am loving the elephant fanboy tears.

Youre loving the fact that fans of a player is upset they lost? What a little sadist you are.
Dont understand the cOckroach thing


Yup i am a sadist, reading how they are being totally irrational and speaking crazy stuff has nothing to do with it.

One of the games he lost was to Jaedong ( a gargantuan elephant), and the other he just got punished by a risky MC build (shocker).

Don't forget he destroyed Taeja and Hero earlier-- 2 of the best players in the world.

He'll make it through this Bo1 crap eventually, and the entire scene will change when he gets into Code S.


See ? LoL. Btw, you are talking about SPL (or should they just seed him because of that ?), and i am not saying Flash is bad. Hell, being on code A should be an achievement at this point. I am just having fun with your responses. And you probably are a Flash Fanboy. And Flash is considered an elephant. :D
okay... But why would you derive pleasure to it? Im understanding that some of the arguments are irrational but dont see why you be 'loving' it. Fans are like that for all high tiered players whether it be stephano, bisu, naniwa etc.
Still dont understand 'god is a cockroach' eitef


He is just insecure as the elephant stampede gets closer and closer, so will take anything that gives comfort with joy.

So Flash didn't make it to Code S this season. It sucks, but no big deal. Flash and other elephants are still progressing at a great pace, as shown with EGTL not having a free ride as initially predicted.
Woo Jung Ho, FIGHTING! | "With the death of BW comes the death of an idea. And that idea, held by many BW fans, was that a computer game could actually outlive the Next New Game cycle. And to some extent it did." -Falling
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
January 06 2013 18:48 GMT
#3016
You know the group is hard and the competition is good when this much sobbing occurs. Here's to hoping Jaedong makes it through the Wild Card thingie, and maybe we can expect Flash next season.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 06 2013 18:51 GMT
#3017
On January 07 2013 03:47 decado90 wrote:
The Yoda result was no shock-- he's been performing well lately and if you download the IPL 5 replays you'll see that he's by far the fastest player in SC2.

Flash was obviously favored to come out of the group too, but lost to a couple of all ins. Hopefully JD makes it through Wild Card, though his play hasn't looked nearly as good as Flash's.


Didn't either Hyun or Sniper peak at over a thousand APM in the last Code S finals, too? The speed of these people is staggering T_T
AdministratorBreak the chains
Rhaegar_tar
Profile Joined February 2012
France847 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-06 18:55:01
January 06 2013 18:54 GMT
#3018
On January 07 2013 03:51 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 03:47 decado90 wrote:
The Yoda result was no shock-- he's been performing well lately and if you download the IPL 5 replays you'll see that he's by far the fastest player in SC2.

Flash was obviously favored to come out of the group too, but lost to a couple of all ins. Hopefully JD makes it through Wild Card, though his play hasn't looked nearly as good as Flash's.


Didn't either Hyun or Sniper peak at over a thousand APM in the last Code S finals, too? The speed of these people is staggering T_T


I think over a thousand APM is a little too much.

Sad to see Flash not making it, but beating three great players(Yoda+Taeja+Hero)+some good others in one day is no small feat...

But god i hate MC even more than b4.
ThisWillBEz
Profile Joined August 2010
United States120 Posts
January 06 2013 18:55 GMT
#3019
On January 07 2013 03:47 VManOfMana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2013 03:38 LighT. wrote:
On January 07 2013 03:31 Godwrath wrote:
On January 07 2013 03:27 LighT. wrote:
On January 07 2013 03:24 Godwrath wrote:
On January 07 2013 03:19 LighT. wrote:

Recall, flash in sc;bw. When they realized you cant win a macro game against him 2010. Kespa teams set sniper
Aftet sniper using various cheese and unorthodox timings to put him down. They succeeded until flash went for a builld set for a macro game, but making it impossible to cheese at the same
Time, thus the 1.5 years of pure domination


God is a cockroach.


I am loving the elephant fanboy tears.

Youre loving the fact that fans of a player is upset they lost? What a little sadist you are.
Dont understand the cOckroach thing


Yup i am a sadist, reading how they are being totally irrational and speaking crazy stuff has nothing to do with it.

One of the games he lost was to Jaedong ( a gargantuan elephant), and the other he just got punished by a risky MC build (shocker).

Don't forget he destroyed Taeja and Hero earlier-- 2 of the best players in the world.

He'll make it through this Bo1 crap eventually, and the entire scene will change when he gets into Code S.


See ? LoL. Btw, you are talking about SPL (or should they just seed him because of that ?), and i am not saying Flash is bad. Hell, being on code A should be an achievement at this point. I am just having fun with your responses. And you probably are a Flash Fanboy. And Flash is considered an elephant. :D
okay... But why would you derive pleasure to it? Im understanding that some of the arguments are irrational but dont see why you be 'loving' it. Fans are like that for all high tiered players whether it be stephano, bisu, naniwa etc.
Still dont understand 'god is a cockroach' eitef


He is just insecure as the elephant stampede gets closer and closer, so will take anything that gives comfort with joy.

So Flash didn't make it to Code S this season. It sucks, but no big deal. Flash and other elephants are still progressing at a great pace, as shown with EGTL not having a free ride as initially predicted.

I think that also has to do with the weird proleague maps
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2227 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-06 19:04:46
January 06 2013 18:57 GMT
#3020
As a Flash fan i'm not happy with this result, but this is only temporary issue. What i am happy about is his current SC2 skill. I believe he can face anyone right now and not be an underdog. Just look at the only 2 games out of 9(!) he lost today - aggressive early game pushes. If he is able to survive to mid - late game, he is becoming almost invincible. This reminds me of a certain period of his BW carrier - he was unbeatable in late game if he got there. Then he learned how to defend against everything and became GOD. He is not in the Code S now? With his skill progression, he will win several Code S in coming months.
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