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decado90
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States480 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-09 01:08:33
January 08 2013 23:09 GMT
#261
On January 09 2013 07:52 Grovbolle wrote:
JaeDong just isn't as dominating as I think EG expected he would become. I still want him to great and all, but I have a lot more confidence in flash becoming great than JaeDong



Jaedong joined EG, so there's a high chance his career goes to the shitter. Great players like Thorzain and Huk couldn't even prosper under such a slack and pampering environment. Stephano is also not nearly as dominant as he was pre-EG, losing to foreign gutter left and right. I think 8 hours a day is what's required in the Lab now and that's laughable compared to Kespa players.

Couple that with the required streaming (basically proves winning tournaments isn't EG's main priority) and no punishment for poor play (Machine, LZgamer, Incontrol among the worst pro gamers in the scene and are still on a pro team) and prospects aren't good for Jaedong.

Maybe when he goes back to T8 he can improve, but I reckon that if he was ok with selling himself out to EG, he's lost the competitive fire he had in BW and will probably retire in a year.

User was temp banned for this post.
"Be formless like water"- Bruce Lee
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
January 08 2013 23:11 GMT
#262
On January 09 2013 08:09 decado90 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 07:52 Grovbolle wrote:
JaeDong just isn't as dominating as I think EG expected he would become. I still want him to great and all, but I have a lot more confidence in flash becoming great than JaeDong



Jaedong joined EG, so there's a high chance his career goes to the shitter. Great players like Thorzain and Huk couldn't even prosper under such a slack and pampering environment. Stephano is also not nearly as dominant as he was pre-EG, losing to foreign gutter left and right. I think 8 hours a day is what's required in the Lab now and that's laughable compared to Kespa players.

Couple that with the required streaming (basically proves winning tournaments isn't EG's main priority) and no punishment for poor play (Machine, LZgamer, Incontrol among the worst pro gamers in the scene and are still on a pro team) and prospects aren't good for Jaedong.

Maybe when he goes back to T8 he can improve, but I reckon that if he was ok with selling himself out to EG, he's lost the competitive fire he had in BW and will probably retire in a year.


There's people that still spew this bullshit? Surprised you didn't throw in an EG Curse for good measure.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 08 2013 23:11 GMT
#263
On January 09 2013 08:11 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 08:09 decado90 wrote:
On January 09 2013 07:52 Grovbolle wrote:
JaeDong just isn't as dominating as I think EG expected he would become. I still want him to great and all, but I have a lot more confidence in flash becoming great than JaeDong



Jaedong joined EG, so there's a high chance his career goes to the shitter. Great players like Thorzain and Huk couldn't even prosper under such a slack and pampering environment. Stephano is also not nearly as dominant as he was pre-EG, losing to foreign gutter left and right. I think 8 hours a day is what's required in the Lab now and that's laughable compared to Kespa players.

Couple that with the required streaming (basically proves winning tournaments isn't EG's main priority) and no punishment for poor play (Machine, LZgamer, Incontrol among the worst pro gamers in the scene and are still on a pro team) and prospects aren't good for Jaedong.

Maybe when he goes back to T8 he can improve, but I reckon that if he was ok with selling himself out to EG, he's lost the competitive fire he had in BW and will probably retire in a year.


There's people that still spew this bullshit? Surprised you didn't throw in an EG Curse for good measure.


Yeah LOL that post just made me laugh at the stupidity xD
When I think of something else, something will go here
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3815 Posts
January 08 2013 23:14 GMT
#264
On January 09 2013 08:09 decado90 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 07:52 Grovbolle wrote:
JaeDong just isn't as dominating as I think EG expected he would become. I still want him to great and all, but I have a lot more confidence in flash becoming great than JaeDong



Jaedong joined EG, so there's a high chance his career goes to the shitter. Great players like Thorzain and Huk couldn't even prosper under such a slack and pampering environment. Stephano is also not nearly as dominant as he was pre-EG, losing to foreign gutter left and right. I think 8 hours a day is what's required in the Lab now and that's laughable compared to Kespa players.

Couple that with the required streaming (basically proves winning tournaments isn't EG's main priority) and no punishment for poor play (Machine, LZgamer, Incontrol among the worst pro gamers in the scene and are still on a pro team) and prospects aren't good for Jaedong.

Maybe when he goes back to T8 he can improve, but I reckon that if he was ok with selling himself out to EG, he's lost the competitive fire he had in BW and will probably retire in a year.



Yeah, that was not what I meant at all.

Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
January 08 2013 23:19 GMT
#265
On January 09 2013 08:09 decado90 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 07:52 Grovbolle wrote:
JaeDong just isn't as dominating as I think EG expected he would become. I still want him to great and all, but I have a lot more confidence in flash becoming great than JaeDong



Jaedong joined EG, so there's a high chance his career goes to the shitter. Great players like Thorzain and Huk couldn't even prosper under such a slack and pampering environment. Stephano is also not nearly as dominant as he was pre-EG, losing to foreign gutter left and right. I think 8 hours a day is what's required in the Lab now and that's laughable compared to Kespa players.

Couple that with the required streaming (basically proves winning tournaments isn't EG's main priority) and no punishment for poor play (Machine, LZgamer, Incontrol among the worst pro gamers in the scene and are still on a pro team) and prospects aren't good for Jaedong.

Maybe when he goes back to T8 he can improve, but I reckon that if he was ok with selling himself out to EG, he's lost the competitive fire he had in BW and will probably retire in a year.


Thought you people died off.
Refer to my post.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 23:22:30
January 08 2013 23:21 GMT
#266
On January 09 2013 08:09 decado90 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 07:52 Grovbolle wrote:
JaeDong just isn't as dominating as I think EG expected he would become. I still want him to great and all, but I have a lot more confidence in flash becoming great than JaeDong



Jaedong joined EG, so there's a high chance his career goes to the shitter. Great players like Thorzain and Huk couldn't even prosper under such a slack and pampering environment. Stephano is also not nearly as dominant as he was pre-EG, losing to foreign gutter left and right. I think 8 hours a day is what's required in the Lab now and that's laughable compared to Kespa players.

Couple that with the required streaming (basically proves winning tournaments isn't EG's main priority) and no punishment for poor play (Machine, LZgamer, Incontrol among the worst pro gamers in the scene and are still on a pro team) and prospects aren't good for Jaedong.

Maybe when he goes back to T8 he can improve, but I reckon that if he was ok with selling himself out to EG, he's lost the competitive fire he had in BW and will probably retire in a year.



Stephano put it well: "Ze EG curse? Are you stupid?"

Hell, you could say there exists a curse of most foreign teams out there. Oh no, Sheth and Ret are slumping! Liquid curse! Nerchio isn't looking as good as he once did! Acer curse! Mana hasn't won a tournament in a few months! Mouz curse!

Believing that a player who joins EG will automatically slump makes about as much sense as believing that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. Oh yes, I just went there :p
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 23:25:13
January 08 2013 23:24 GMT
#267
Quick and probably incredibly naive/ignorant question:
If a tournament has problems connecting to twitch (there seem to be no general internet problems, as bnet works), can't they just try streaming over another platform? like owned or ustream or whatnot.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
January 08 2013 23:29 GMT
#268
On January 09 2013 08:21 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 08:09 decado90 wrote:
On January 09 2013 07:52 Grovbolle wrote:
JaeDong just isn't as dominating as I think EG expected he would become. I still want him to great and all, but I have a lot more confidence in flash becoming great than JaeDong



Jaedong joined EG, so there's a high chance his career goes to the shitter. Great players like Thorzain and Huk couldn't even prosper under such a slack and pampering environment. Stephano is also not nearly as dominant as he was pre-EG, losing to foreign gutter left and right. I think 8 hours a day is what's required in the Lab now and that's laughable compared to Kespa players.

Couple that with the required streaming (basically proves winning tournaments isn't EG's main priority) and no punishment for poor play (Machine, LZgamer, Incontrol among the worst pro gamers in the scene and are still on a pro team) and prospects aren't good for Jaedong.

Maybe when he goes back to T8 he can improve, but I reckon that if he was ok with selling himself out to EG, he's lost the competitive fire he had in BW and will probably retire in a year.



Stephano put it well: "Ze EG curse? Are you stupid?"

Hell, you could say there exists a curse of most foreign teams out there. Oh no, Sheth and Ret are slumping! Liquid curse! Nerchio isn't looking as good as he once did! Acer curse! Mana hasn't won a tournament in a few months! Mouz curse!

Believing that a player who joins EG will automatically slump makes about as much sense as believing that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. Oh yes, I just went there :p

A big part of Jaedongs success was that he truly loved playing for Lecaf/Hwaseung OZ. They had a strong sens of playing together as a team and Jaedong never really recovered when his coach left. I don't think he could perform as well on a team that buys players left and right. And I don't think this only applies to him, that is maybe why people jokingly talks about an EG curse.

Just my two cents...
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
January 08 2013 23:33 GMT
#269
It's not like EG is going to recruit somebody every 2 weeks. This was likely to help make the PL scenario work out. They'll probably let people go before considering recruiting another player.
Refer to my post.
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
January 08 2013 23:34 GMT
#270
On January 09 2013 08:09 decado90 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 07:52 Grovbolle wrote:
JaeDong just isn't as dominating as I think EG expected he would become. I still want him to great and all, but I have a lot more confidence in flash becoming great than JaeDong



Jaedong joined EG, so there's a high chance his career goes to the shitter. Great players like Thorzain and Huk couldn't even prosper under such a slack and pampering environment. Stephano is also not nearly as dominant as he was pre-EG, losing to foreign gutter left and right. I think 8 hours a day is what's required in the Lab now and that's laughable compared to Kespa players.

Couple that with the required streaming (basically proves winning tournaments isn't EG's main priority) and no punishment for poor play (Machine, LZgamer, Incontrol among the worst pro gamers in the scene and are still on a pro team) and prospects aren't good for Jaedong.

Maybe when he goes back to T8 he can improve, but I reckon that if he was ok with selling himself out to EG, he's lost the competitive fire he had in BW and will probably retire in a year.



You my friend are dumb. You are so beyond ignorant to everything they are currently doing that I don't feel like listing it because trying to convince someone of your mentality is like trying to teach my dog how to safely drive a car.
JD, need I say more? :D
baoluvboa
Profile Joined December 2010
743 Posts
January 08 2013 23:35 GMT
#271
Did Jaedong win the series?
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 23:37:16
January 08 2013 23:36 GMT
#272
On January 09 2013 08:35 baoluvboa wrote:
Did Jaedong win the series?


They halted the series, it is currently Jaedong 2:1 Yonghwa.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 08 2013 23:38 GMT
#273
On January 09 2013 08:36 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 08:35 baoluvboa wrote:
Did Jaedong win the series?


They halted the series, it is currently Jaedong 2:1 Yonghwa.


What 2 games did he win? I know he won on antiga, then lost on ohana but I must have missed the first game?
When I think of something else, something will go here
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
January 08 2013 23:38 GMT
#274
On January 09 2013 08:33 Zenbrez wrote:
It's not like EG is going to recruit somebody every 2 weeks. This was likely to help make the PL scenario work out. They'll probably let people go before considering recruiting another player.

I don't really know these things since i only follow the old BW pros in sc2, but who in EG is really an EG player (in the sens: they have developed their skill and love for the game in this team)? Idra, I guess... In OZ, for instance, Anytime, Forgg, Jaedong... they were all OZ players.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 08 2013 23:39 GMT
#275
On January 09 2013 08:29 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 08:21 Bagration wrote:
On January 09 2013 08:09 decado90 wrote:
On January 09 2013 07:52 Grovbolle wrote:
JaeDong just isn't as dominating as I think EG expected he would become. I still want him to great and all, but I have a lot more confidence in flash becoming great than JaeDong



Jaedong joined EG, so there's a high chance his career goes to the shitter. Great players like Thorzain and Huk couldn't even prosper under such a slack and pampering environment. Stephano is also not nearly as dominant as he was pre-EG, losing to foreign gutter left and right. I think 8 hours a day is what's required in the Lab now and that's laughable compared to Kespa players.

Couple that with the required streaming (basically proves winning tournaments isn't EG's main priority) and no punishment for poor play (Machine, LZgamer, Incontrol among the worst pro gamers in the scene and are still on a pro team) and prospects aren't good for Jaedong.

Maybe when he goes back to T8 he can improve, but I reckon that if he was ok with selling himself out to EG, he's lost the competitive fire he had in BW and will probably retire in a year.



Stephano put it well: "Ze EG curse? Are you stupid?"

Hell, you could say there exists a curse of most foreign teams out there. Oh no, Sheth and Ret are slumping! Liquid curse! Nerchio isn't looking as good as he once did! Acer curse! Mana hasn't won a tournament in a few months! Mouz curse!

Believing that a player who joins EG will automatically slump makes about as much sense as believing that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. Oh yes, I just went there :p

A big part of Jaedongs success was that he truly loved playing for Lecaf/Hwaseung OZ. They had a strong sens of playing together as a team and Jaedong never really recovered when his coach left. I don't think he could perform as well on a team that buys players left and right. And I don't think this only applies to him, that is maybe why people jokingly talks about an EG curse.

Just my two cents...


There's the problem. Some people aren't joking. They actually believe that once a player joins EG, that the player will automatically slump, and that the cause of slumping can be blamed on joining EG. Joking is one thing, and I admit I've joked about the "curse" as well, but to believe it as fact would be just preposterous.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
January 08 2013 23:40 GMT
#276
If he gets his natural cannoned now too...
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
January 08 2013 23:45 GMT
#277
This is going really nice for Jaedong. Cool... But I dont know how good this Yongwah dude is.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
January 08 2013 23:46 GMT
#278
Tip : put the score somewhere in the overlay please ;-s
NoiR
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
January 08 2013 23:47 GMT
#279
Late game PvZ, boooooo
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 08 2013 23:51 GMT
#280
This wouldn't have been so close if jaedong had not countered xD

At least he won D
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