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sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
December 16 2012 13:09 GMT
#3061
On December 16 2012 19:06 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 18:57 GunPaladin wrote:
On December 16 2012 18:52 sc2superfan101 wrote:


Taeja played really well, JYP is clutch, and Jaedong is awesome. with Revival, Zenio, Puma, and Stephano, this team should be theoretically unbeatable. I still expect great things in the future, but they have to step it up.


I agree, I love huk and thorzain but even with the hero fail, we would've seen our first win had any of the four players mentioned been used instead of the two. But I guess this speaks more to EG-TL's goals. Are they here to win or are they here to pull in more sponsors?

You're seriously deluded if you think Zenio would've made a difference. 'Theoretically unbeatable'...not knowing most of the kespa players doesn't mean they're walkovers. I see a roster with some great players and some very mediocre ones, a small coaching staff and a team training environment (if there even is one) that's almost certainly not as productive and well-oiled as those of the kespa teams.

Excuses like they were just trying to draw sponsors is silly, winning draws sponsors.

I know the Kespa players well enough to know that EG-TL has a really strong roster, possibly unmatched right now by the Kespa teams (in terms of solid achievement in SC2).

I don't think they're trying to draw sponsers at the expense of winning, I think they just lost a match they totally could've won, even with the players they sent out.
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
Shikada
Profile Joined May 2012
Serbia976 Posts
December 16 2012 13:15 GMT
#3062
People are really overreacting to this. OMG EG-TL lost again?!

Combination of HerO getting sniped (by a far lesser opponent) and questionable picks of Huk and Thorzain made this match be decided in the ace match really. And the match between herO[jOin] and Taeja is pretty even I think (since Taeja isn't the monster in TvP that he used to be).

All in all, gg wp and looking forward to seeing even better results from EG-TL.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
December 16 2012 13:20 GMT
#3063
JAEDONG!! <3

wasn't pretty by any means, but it was jd beating a strong terran
rasers
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden691 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 13:23:10
December 16 2012 13:22 GMT
#3064
On December 16 2012 22:15 Shikada wrote:
People are really overreacting to this. OMG EG-TL lost again?!

Combination of HerO getting sniped (by a far lesser opponent) and questionable picks of Huk and Thorzain made this match be decided in the ace match really. And the match between herO[jOin] and Taeja is pretty even I think (since Taeja isn't the monster in TvP that he used to be).

All in all, gg wp and looking forward to seeing even better results from EG-TL.

excuses everywhere.
oh and the sniping part will happen alot so better get used 2 it. and wouldn't say hydra is a far lesser opponent but whatever.
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
December 16 2012 13:23 GMT
#3065
On December 16 2012 22:22 rasers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 22:15 Shikada wrote:
People are really overreacting to this. OMG EG-TL lost again?!

Combination of HerO getting sniped (by a far lesser opponent) and questionable picks of Huk and Thorzain made this match be decided in the ace match really. And the match between herO[jOin] and Taeja is pretty even I think (since Taeja isn't the monster in TvP that he used to be).

All in all, gg wp and looking forward to seeing even better results from EG-TL.

excuses everywhere.

I fial to see the excuses. He is stating that Cj as a team was better this day. Better choices of players, better sniping. Thats not an excuse.
KovuTalli
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom325 Posts
December 16 2012 13:23 GMT
#3066
Sadly the video goes out of Sync again with the casters, but I guess thats what happens when the casters aren't live at the event. I+ Show Spoiler +
know Taeja's feels. The disgust of losing to protoss like that even with blanket EMP's on the ramp, True he wasbehind in upgrades. Upgrades too strong -_-
lol. Other than that great series, so close by EG-TL.
"Milk tastes like milk" - Raelcun.
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
December 16 2012 13:33 GMT
#3067
Where can I find the english VODs?
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
sppdqt
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany9 Posts
December 16 2012 13:40 GMT
#3068
vods:
http://de.twitch.tv/sc2proleague/videos
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
December 16 2012 13:50 GMT
#3069
On December 16 2012 22:23 Tarotis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 22:22 rasers wrote:
On December 16 2012 22:15 Shikada wrote:
People are really overreacting to this. OMG EG-TL lost again?!

Combination of HerO getting sniped (by a far lesser opponent) and questionable picks of Huk and Thorzain made this match be decided in the ace match really. And the match between herO[jOin] and Taeja is pretty even I think (since Taeja isn't the monster in TvP that he used to be).

All in all, gg wp and looking forward to seeing even better results from EG-TL.

excuses everywhere.

I fial to see the excuses. He is stating that Cj as a team was better this day. Better choices of players, better sniping. Thats not an excuse.


Also generally better players.
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 14:02:01
December 16 2012 13:51 GMT
#3070
all vods, both KR and ENG

[image loading] Game 1 | [image loading] Game 1
[image loading] Game 2 | [image loading] Game 2
[image loading] Game 3 | [image loading] Game 3
[image loading] Game 4 | [image loading] Game 4
[image loading] Game 5 | [image loading] Game 5
[image loading] Game 6 | [image loading] Game 6

[image loading] Ace | [image loading] Ace
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
December 16 2012 13:52 GMT
#3071
Why is the last not available on YouTube?
The heart's eternal vow
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
December 16 2012 13:54 GMT
#3072
On December 16 2012 22:51 opterown wrote:
all vods, both KR and ENG

[image loading] Game 1 | [image loading] Game 1
[image loading] Game 2 | [image loading] Game 2
[image loading] Game 3 | [image loading] Game 3
[image loading] Game 4 | [image loading] Game 4
[image loading] Game 5 | [image loading] Game 5
[image loading] Game 6 | [image loading] Game 6

[image loading] Ace | [image loading] Ace

KR ACE links to the effort v JYP match.
The heart's eternal vow
MetalPanda
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1152 Posts
December 16 2012 13:57 GMT
#3073
On December 16 2012 22:23 Tarotis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 22:22 rasers wrote:
On December 16 2012 22:15 Shikada wrote:
People are really overreacting to this. OMG EG-TL lost again?!

Combination of HerO getting sniped (by a far lesser opponent) and questionable picks of Huk and Thorzain made this match be decided in the ace match really. And the match between herO[jOin] and Taeja is pretty even I think (since Taeja isn't the monster in TvP that he used to be).

All in all, gg wp and looking forward to seeing even better results from EG-TL.

excuses everywhere.

I fial to see the excuses. He is stating that Cj as a team was better this day. Better choices of players, better sniping. Thats not an excuse.


Coach is to blame I think lol. After seeing this match, I believe that EGTL has the best potential out there. And is a killer team in all-kill format. can't wait to see.
booksmartguy
Profile Joined December 2012
United States45 Posts
December 16 2012 13:57 GMT
#3074
On December 16 2012 22:50 Aunvilgod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 22:23 Tarotis wrote:
On December 16 2012 22:22 rasers wrote:
On December 16 2012 22:15 Shikada wrote:
People are really overreacting to this. OMG EG-TL lost again?!

Combination of HerO getting sniped (by a far lesser opponent) and questionable picks of Huk and Thorzain made this match be decided in the ace match really. And the match between herO[jOin] and Taeja is pretty even I think (since Taeja isn't the monster in TvP that he used to be).

All in all, gg wp and looking forward to seeing even better results from EG-TL.

excuses everywhere.

I fial to see the excuses. He is stating that Cj as a team was better this day. Better choices of players, better sniping. Thats not an excuse.


Also generally better players.


Agreed, CJ just get better players.
cutler
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany609 Posts
December 16 2012 14:00 GMT
#3075
EG-TL only made one small mistake...they used Terran Players...some more Toss und Zerg...and they will win this!
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 16 2012 14:02 GMT
#3076
On December 16 2012 22:54 PVJ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 22:51 opterown wrote:
all vods, both KR and ENG

[image loading] Game 1 | [image loading] Game 1
[image loading] Game 2 | [image loading] Game 2
[image loading] Game 3 | [image loading] Game 3
[image loading] Game 4 | [image loading] Game 4
[image loading] Game 5 | [image loading] Game 5
[image loading] Game 6 | [image loading] Game 6

[image loading] Ace | [image loading] Ace

KR ACE links to the effort v JYP match.

fixed

lol strange, no KR ace match for au lol
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
December 16 2012 14:05 GMT
#3077
thx for the recaps opti (or whoever made them)
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
December 16 2012 14:07 GMT
#3078
Is there a reason that Sea isn´t there? I would rate him above both thorzain and huk and he has experiece with the proleague environment.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
December 16 2012 14:24 GMT
#3079
On December 16 2012 22:57 booksmartguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 22:50 Aunvilgod wrote:
On December 16 2012 22:23 Tarotis wrote:
On December 16 2012 22:22 rasers wrote:
On December 16 2012 22:15 Shikada wrote:
People are really overreacting to this. OMG EG-TL lost again?!

Combination of HerO getting sniped (by a far lesser opponent) and questionable picks of Huk and Thorzain made this match be decided in the ace match really. And the match between herO[jOin] and Taeja is pretty even I think (since Taeja isn't the monster in TvP that he used to be).

All in all, gg wp and looking forward to seeing even better results from EG-TL.

excuses everywhere.

I fial to see the excuses. He is stating that Cj as a team was better this day. Better choices of players, better sniping. Thats not an excuse.


Also generally better players.


Agreed, CJ just get better players.

What ?! Bbyong is the real deal but others aren't good. EffOrt got a Code A Seed and lost. rare qualified but ends up losing to Hack. And herO isn't much better either. TaeJa and HerO are vastly superior to anyone in CJ.

The main difference between the 2 teams is that CJ has been doing PL for their whole career and are more than prepared for the situation. The format is very peculiar and the maps are unconventional.
Evangelist
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
1246 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 14:26:00
December 16 2012 14:25 GMT
#3080
Some of these maps are weird as hell. Interesting to watch, but weird.

As for Zenio and Sea, Thorzain's just suffering from nerves and unfamiliarity with the map pool. He's a very deliberate player with every building placed more or less where he thinks it is best. He's also been sent out, in his weakest match up, twice, on completely new maps.

People seem surprised when BW players win on maps they're actually familiar with :p Put them on old converted WC3 maps and see how long they last against Thorzain and Grubby.
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