On December 17 2012 15:20 blade55555 wrote:
I think that decision lies on whether MVP wants to or not
I think that decision lies on whether MVP wants to or not

Agree. No one mixes builds like Mvp in TvP ^^
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Belha
Italy2850 Posts
On December 17 2012 15:20 blade55555 wrote: Show nested quote + On December 17 2012 15:19 Waxangel wrote: I wonder if PartinG will bother to play a macro game I think that decision lies on whether MVP wants to or not ![]() Agree. No one mixes builds like Mvp in TvP ^^ | ||
JJH777
United States4408 Posts
On December 17 2012 15:21 redviper wrote: Is Wolf retarded? 2010 Mvp won the gainward sc2 invitational. In 2011 Mvp won everything. EVER. SINGLE. FUCKING. THING. gainward was in 2011 | ||
Ophe
Sweden388 Posts
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
They just played Hardstyle :D | ||
Ryncol
United States980 Posts
On December 17 2012 15:20 InoyouS2 wrote: Wolf, stop talking, you sound like an idiot. He wasn't even factually right. "Mvp's year was definitely 2010..." but Mvp didn't even win his first GSL until January 2011 ~_~ | ||
lonelyPotato
Australia158 Posts
On December 17 2012 15:20 GreyKnight wrote: Show nested quote + On December 17 2012 15:19 lonelyPotato wrote: On December 17 2012 15:17 GreyKnight wrote: On December 17 2012 15:17 Belha wrote: On December 17 2012 15:15 SafeAsCheese wrote: Another great game where the entire game is determined by one mothership. You really think the mothership determined the fate of the game? Really? I agree, mothership vortex wouldn't have helped hero at all because a competent zerg can split his broodlords Not really, Leenock had his Broodlords exposed so many times , Hero didn't pick up on it. Leenock didn't even split them. Also splitting Broodlords is a lot more impractical than other units because they move super slowly. Yes, that's how sad it is that Leenock didn't split them despite the danger of a vortex. That's how laughable PvZ is Hero screwed up though, his broodlords were exposed and he didn't go for it with vortex (There was 2-3 times I saw where a vortex would have been prime). I don't know why you brought up balance, I wasn't even referring to that. | ||
blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On December 17 2012 15:20 GreyKnight wrote: Show nested quote + On December 17 2012 15:19 lonelyPotato wrote: On December 17 2012 15:17 GreyKnight wrote: On December 17 2012 15:17 Belha wrote: On December 17 2012 15:15 SafeAsCheese wrote: Another great game where the entire game is determined by one mothership. You really think the mothership determined the fate of the game? Really? I agree, mothership vortex wouldn't have helped hero at all because a competent zerg can split his broodlords Not really, Leenock had his Broodlords exposed so many times , Hero didn't pick up on it. Leenock didn't even split them. Also splitting Broodlords is a lot more impractical than other units because they move super slowly. Yes, that's how sad it is that Leenock didn't split them despite the danger of a vortex. That's how laughable PvZ is Hero should have lost that game when his army was obliterated but zerg mid game army sucks ass so he had to tech to broodlords and a game that should have ended after hero's failed 3 base push took another 20 minutes. Protoss wins pvz just as much as zerg stop complaining. If you think hero outplayed leenock and deserved the win you are way wrong. | ||
slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
On December 17 2012 15:21 Corsica wrote: surprise leenock is much better than violet. 4-4 in IPL says otherwise. | ||
xAdra
Singapore1858 Posts
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kju
6143 Posts
On December 17 2012 15:20 willyallthewei wrote: Show nested quote + On December 17 2012 15:17 Boiler Bandsman wrote: And that's lategame PvZ, people. That's the best lategame Toss I've seen in a while, and it's easily undone by an unlucky break and a single fungal. Hero was way behind, and he isn't the best toss in any area or way, he's wildly inconsistent and reckless with his tactical choices. It makes for flashy games, but if hero was just slightly more boring like a creator or squirtle he'd be a heck of a lot better, and he would've crushed Leenock in game 1 and never would've needed to come from behind in game 3. I doubt that Leenock would go for 1 base baneling allin if he loses the first map but yea HerO threw map 1 | ||
JJH777
United States4408 Posts
On December 17 2012 15:22 AgentW wrote: Show nested quote + On December 17 2012 15:21 Corsica wrote: surprise leenock is much better than violet. 4-4 in IPL says otherwise. It was 7-5 | ||
Boiler Bandsman
United States391 Posts
On December 17 2012 15:20 willyallthewei wrote: Show nested quote + On December 17 2012 15:17 Boiler Bandsman wrote: And that's lategame PvZ, people. That's the best lategame Toss I've seen in a while, and it's easily undone by an unlucky break and a single fungal. Hero was way behind, and he isn't the best toss in any area or way, he's wildly inconsistent and reckless with his tactical choices. It makes for flashy games, but if hero was just slightly more boring like a creator or squirtle he'd be a heck of a lot better, and he would've crushed Leenock in game 1 and never would've needed to come from behind in game 3. I meant best lategame play in that game, not overall. And you can't seriously think that the way that mothership went down is right. That much investment into a unique unit undone by a massable tier 2 caster. | ||
GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
On December 17 2012 15:21 blade55555 wrote: Show nested quote + On December 17 2012 15:20 GreyKnight wrote: On December 17 2012 15:19 lonelyPotato wrote: On December 17 2012 15:17 GreyKnight wrote: On December 17 2012 15:17 Belha wrote: On December 17 2012 15:15 SafeAsCheese wrote: Another great game where the entire game is determined by one mothership. You really think the mothership determined the fate of the game? Really? I agree, mothership vortex wouldn't have helped hero at all because a competent zerg can split his broodlords Not really, Leenock had his Broodlords exposed so many times , Hero didn't pick up on it. Leenock didn't even split them. Also splitting Broodlords is a lot more impractical than other units because they move super slowly. Yes, that's how sad it is that Leenock didn't split them despite the danger of a vortex. That's how laughable PvZ is If you think hero outplayed leenock and deserved the win you are way wrong. Where did I say that? | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On December 17 2012 15:22 AgentW wrote: Show nested quote + On December 17 2012 15:21 Corsica wrote: surprise leenock is much better than violet. 4-4 in IPL says otherwise. it was 7-5 but yeah still close | ||
MosART
United States1899 Posts
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Maloreon
United States911 Posts
On December 17 2012 15:22 AgentW wrote: Show nested quote + On December 17 2012 15:21 Corsica wrote: surprise leenock is much better than violet. 4-4 in IPL says otherwise. Leenock having winning records against basically everyone in existence + a HUGE amount of tournament results kind of ends any argument of Violet > Leenock. I love Violet and he's definitely a top notch Zerg but not on Leenock's level. He'd need to win a LOT more stuff. | ||
Spacekyod
United States818 Posts
On December 17 2012 15:21 Za7oX wrote: WOW WTF They just played Hardstyle :D I thought it was more gabber than anything... but that doesn't matter. I can't believe i'm saying this for a gsl tourney, but music selection is TOP NOTCH! | ||
PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On December 17 2012 15:22 GreyKnight wrote: Show nested quote + On December 17 2012 15:21 blade55555 wrote: On December 17 2012 15:20 GreyKnight wrote: On December 17 2012 15:19 lonelyPotato wrote: On December 17 2012 15:17 GreyKnight wrote: On December 17 2012 15:17 Belha wrote: On December 17 2012 15:15 SafeAsCheese wrote: Another great game where the entire game is determined by one mothership. You really think the mothership determined the fate of the game? Really? I agree, mothership vortex wouldn't have helped hero at all because a competent zerg can split his broodlords Not really, Leenock had his Broodlords exposed so many times , Hero didn't pick up on it. Leenock didn't even split them. Also splitting Broodlords is a lot more impractical than other units because they move super slowly. Yes, that's how sad it is that Leenock didn't split them despite the danger of a vortex. That's how laughable PvZ is If you think hero outplayed leenock and deserved the win you are way wrong. Where did I say that? Notice how I said "if". If you think that you are wrong. You pretty much imply it anyway when you say "that's how laughable pvz is" when balance wasn't the reason hero lost that. | ||
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