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kju
6143 Posts
On December 13 2012 06:48 j4vz wrote: ZvP is scarlett worst matchup but if she lose, some peoples will call her patchzerg...this forum... I thought ZvP is her best mu.... | ||
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justinpal
United States3810 Posts
Flash lost all the time to all-ins. 14 cc? (well, not all-the time) | ||
KristofferAG
Norway25712 Posts
On December 13 2012 06:48 HaXXspetten wrote: well HotS should be a brand new start still yeah I wouldn't be surprised if he'll never win another GSL Would be neat to see him win another GSL, then retire from progaming. Going into coaching or something. | ||
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nomyx
United States2205 Posts
On December 13 2012 06:48 kaokentake wrote: ive always thought transfuse was the most un-needed spell in the game. a product of early alpha design and the beta days. but its still around... and in pro games when a zerg transfuses what is he doing, well realistically, you have a 2food unit that is STRONGER than 2marines in anti air with 7range, and fights evenly with 2marines on the ground, and now that 2food durable combat unit also has a 1click spell that heals for almost a full broodlords health and heals at a energy rate of medivacs...... yeah......... the F? dunno how it still exists yet it does, amazing, it probably exists because most zergs werent getting heavy numbers of ultras/broods in most games until very late into release and without ultras/broodlords to abuse transfuse with no one saw the imbalance clearly for what it is I never liked it either. It would be okay IMO in terms of design if the queen wasn't a massed unit. You always want more queens though, because more / faster creep spread, defense against ground and air attacks, larvae production, and transfusions to help your T3 late game. | ||
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Foudzing
France181 Posts
On December 13 2012 06:45 Maluk wrote: People here are saying MKP played bad, but Scarlett did not play amazing either. They both built up armies, attacked into each other. Don't see how you can conclude from that that Scarlett has more skill (which is known to be wrong by everyone by the way). I totally agree with you here. If the two players play passively, and not taking over-greedy expansions or hidden bases, it's an auto-win for the zerg player, this is a big issue in the machup a the moment. Terran as to do something (harass, very greedy expansion, very greedy build or all-in) in order to win, zerg does not. Talking about transfuses, I saw a game of goswser few days ago, he had 3 ultras and 5 or 6 queens and he killed a 100 pop terran army with only this, and using transfuse well, the ultras just didn't lost any hp. | ||
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speknek
758 Posts
On December 13 2012 06:48 Hiea wrote: Another factor in TvZ I think a lot of people never think about is scouting. Zerg can scout almost anything if they want to. Terrans can't scout unless they sacrifice all their hellions, and it might just get blocked completely, scans in early game doesn't work because they could place their tech at the main, natural or 3rd, the corner of the base, front of the natural, etc. Although it's true that Zerg CAN scout whatever they want now, it's ironic because they actually never bother to scout anymore in ZvT. I think Leenock is the only one that occasionally sacs an overlord for info. People like life, sniper, your precious stephano, they just make a couple of queens and do whatever the fuck they want cos they know they can't get punished. Great dynamic in this matchup. | ||
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
On December 13 2012 06:48 Hiea wrote: Another factor in TvZ I think a lot of people never think about is scouting. Zerg can scout almost anything if they want to. Terrans can't scout unless they sacrifice all their hellions, and it might just get blocked completely, scans in early game doesn't work because they could place their tech at the main, natural or 3rd, the corner of the base, front of the natural, etc. Terrans have scan which is completely unblockable and reveals hidden units. Zergs have it hardest to scout the opponents bases, you have to actually sneak a unit in there. | ||
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McBengt
Sweden1684 Posts
On December 13 2012 06:48 IronSquid wrote: was just the time needed to set up the overlay, not a spoiler I think there is a conspiracy afoot, I suspect this stream is being played with a 43 minute 58 second delay, and has now phased out of the space time continuum. I believe Scarlett has already won, but the Illuminati has instigated a massive cover-up to keep the secret of extra-dimensional travel to themselves. | ||
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KristofferAG
Norway25712 Posts
vZ is her best, isn't it? vP is pretty damn good, but vT is her worst. I think. | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
On December 13 2012 06:50 justinpal wrote: Flash lost all the time to all-ins. 14 cc? (well, not all-the time) we do not speak of those | ||
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Diavlo
Belgium2915 Posts
On December 13 2012 06:47 Fireflies wrote: Scarlett had to make many choices in those games so don't make fun of her. Witness her total mastery of the keys 1, a, f and t and weep knowing that you'll never be able to command such vastly different armies as infestor/broodlord or broodlord/infestor in such an entertaining way. According to Stephano, Scarlett has the best mechanics of any foreigner. So no, you probably won't be able to command such armies as well as her. | ||
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Hiea
Denmark1538 Posts
On December 13 2012 06:50 justinpal wrote: Flash lost all the time to all-ins. 14 cc? (well, not all-the time) Almost every game I've seen of Flash its been 14cc, and not one has tried to hard counter it, I may of missed a game here or there. | ||
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Gesarjack
Switzerland117 Posts
On December 13 2012 06:45 dcemuser wrote: Well he did knock out Life (and now Taeja) so clearly there is something to his success. I expected that he would beat Life, his PvZ is really really good, I just never thought he could beat a terran ever. | ||
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
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karpotoss
135 Posts
On December 13 2012 06:52 revel8 wrote: Terrans have scan which is completely unblockable and reveals hidden units. Zergs have it hardest to scout the opponents bases, you have to actually sneak a unit in there. Oh, come on. When is it a bad idea to make infestors? | ||
Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
On December 13 2012 06:54 Bagi wrote: What map is this? Looks like dual sight 2.0.... Grand Lagoon. they use it in GSTL | ||
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IMoperator
4476 Posts
On December 13 2012 06:53 Diavlo wrote: According to Stephano, Scarlett has the best mechanics of any foreigner. So no, you probably won't be able to command such armies as well as her. Idra, Huk, Naniwa, Nerchio, Kas, Demuslim all have better mechanics imo. I think she's a good player, but mechanics wise she's nothing special. | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
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Diavlo
Belgium2915 Posts
On December 13 2012 06:53 Hiea wrote: Almost every game I've seen of Flash its been 14cc, and not one has tried to hard counter it, I may of missed a game here or there. Appart from Naniwa 4 gating and proxy immortal busting him you mean... On December 13 2012 06:55 IMoperator wrote: Idra, Huk, Naniwa, Nerchio, Kas, Demuslim all have better mechanics imo. I think she's a good player, but mechanics wise she's nothing special. Well Stephano disagrees with you, i don't know why but i have more faith in his judgment. | ||
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KristofferAG
Norway25712 Posts
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