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aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
December 12 2012 21:59 GMT
#401
why does iron squid never post a tlpedia link in op
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
December 12 2012 21:59 GMT
#402
On December 13 2012 06:57 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 06:56 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:56 TheBB wrote:
TaeJa vs. Brown

TaeJa wins (0.00%):

Brown wins (100.00%):
      2-1: 100.00%

Most likely winner: Brown (100.00%)
Median outcome: TaeJa 1-2 Brown

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I agree
too slow! it is here forever

I must now go into exile for ever to hide my shame.

As long as your hermitage has an internet connection we're fine with it.
templar rage
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2509 Posts
December 12 2012 21:59 GMT
#403
On December 13 2012 06:55 IMoperator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 06:53 Diavlo wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:47 Fireflies wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:41 Hider wrote:
Enjoyed the part where Scarlett clicked F on marine Kings army. THat was just awesome. Well done scarlett. Looking like one of the best foreigners.


Scarlett had to make many choices in those games so don't make fun of her. Witness her total mastery of the keys 1, a, f and t and weep knowing that you'll never be able to command such vastly different armies as infestor/broodlord or broodlord/infestor in such an entertaining way.


According to Stephano, Scarlett has the best mechanics of any foreigner. So no, you probably won't be able to command such armies as well as her.


Idra, Huk, Naniwa, Nerchio, Kas, Demuslim all have better mechanics imo. I think she's a good player, but mechanics wise she's nothing special.


In particular, her multitasking is pretty abysmal. I wouldn't take any names Stephano named in that "Grilled" interview seriously, since I think he mostly just threw out random people for answers when they weren't himself (which like half of them were lol)
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
December 12 2012 22:00 GMT
#404
On December 13 2012 06:59 aintz wrote:
why does iron squid never post a tlpedia link in op

oh cmon it takes 10 secs to find
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Iron_Squid_–_Chapter_II#Group_Stage
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
December 12 2012 22:00 GMT
#405
On December 13 2012 06:58 Gesarjack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 06:56 HaXXspetten wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:53 Gesarjack wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:45 dcemuser wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:43 Gesarjack wrote:
Wow I had no idea this would be the winner's match. Now I suppose Brown is favorite to get out of the group first, severely unexpected


Well he did knock out Life (and now Taeja) so clearly there is something to his success.


I expected that he would beat Life, his PvZ is really really good, I just never thought he could beat a terran ever.

Again, seriously stop counting that series lol, Life had to throw it due to Korean law


How about counting that he has 100% winrate against zerg in GSL televised games and something around 75% total then?


Misleading if you look at how many and who he played
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
December 12 2012 22:01 GMT
#406
Scarlett holding it like a boss. Hot darn she's so good
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 22:03:10
December 12 2012 22:01 GMT
#407
On December 13 2012 06:57 Snowbear wrote:
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On December 13 2012 06:52 revel8 wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:48 Hiea wrote:
Another factor in TvZ I think a lot of people never think about is scouting.

Zerg can scout almost anything if they want to.

Terrans can't scout unless they sacrifice all their hellions, and it might just get blocked completely, scans in early game doesn't work because they could place their tech at the main, natural or 3rd, the corner of the base, front of the natural, etc.


Terrans have scan which is completely unblockable and reveals hidden units. Zergs have it hardest to scout the opponents bases, you have to actually sneak a unit in there.


1) A scan = a lost mule = a loss of 270 minerals.
2) Imagine I scan the main. BOOM: all tech is in the natural. Okay, let's scan the natural then. BOOM, the zerg is droning and nothing is coming soon. I lost a total of 540 minerals = a full OC.


I am not saying a scan is free. Of course it is not. However it is unblockable and so is ALWAYS an option. If Terrans have marines, turrets around their bases and maintain a wall then Zergs cannot scout a Terran base at all. Terrans can scan and this cannot be prevented. It is a bit silly to say that Terrans cannot scout when they have scans.
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
December 12 2012 22:01 GMT
#408
Come on Brown! Immortal Sentry the right way!
Never make a hydralisk.
Gesarjack
Profile Joined June 2012
Switzerland117 Posts
December 12 2012 22:03 GMT
#409
On December 13 2012 06:58 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 06:58 Gesarjack wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:56 HaXXspetten wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:53 Gesarjack wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:45 dcemuser wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:43 Gesarjack wrote:
Wow I had no idea this would be the winner's match. Now I suppose Brown is favorite to get out of the group first, severely unexpected


Well he did knock out Life (and now Taeja) so clearly there is something to his success.


I expected that he would beat Life, his PvZ is really really good, I just never thought he could beat a terran ever.

Again, seriously stop counting that series lol, Life had to throw it due to Korean law


How about counting that he has 100% winrate against zerg in GSL televised games and something around 75% total then?

better


To be fair he seems to become less and less dominant in the m-u, and he goes for lots of 2-base all-ins which isn't what he started with (and got my love for) :/
You've got to have trolls under bridges. Otherwise, what's it all about?
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
December 12 2012 22:03 GMT
#410
On December 13 2012 06:48 HaXXspetten wrote:
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On December 13 2012 06:45 SKYFISH_ wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:42 XiGua wrote:
Terrans out.

MVP where art thou?

retired just in time, i doubt he will come back to SC after his treatment

well HotS should be a brand new start

still yeah I wouldn't be surprised if he'll never win another GSL


Mvp's condition is not that easily curable/healable. It's his spine that is the problem.

But I see a lot of good Terrans coming from KeSPA: Baby, Bogus, Fantasy etc. So I wouldn't worry about Terrans dying out.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 22:11:35
December 12 2012 22:04 GMT
#411
I wasn't watching, but Brown to Acer!

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/14qxqh/acer_welcomes_brown_formerly_of_slayers/

Scarlett confirmed, dunno if they said it on stream or where the guy got it from.


Disregard, confirmed wrong.
McBengt
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1684 Posts
December 12 2012 22:05 GMT
#412
On December 13 2012 07:03 ref4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 06:48 HaXXspetten wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:45 SKYFISH_ wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:42 XiGua wrote:
Terrans out.

MVP where art thou?

retired just in time, i doubt he will come back to SC after his treatment

well HotS should be a brand new start

still yeah I wouldn't be surprised if he'll never win another GSL


Mvp's condition is not that easily curable/healable. It's his spine that is the problem.

But I see a lot of good Terrans coming from KeSPA: Baby, Bogus, Fantasy etc. So I wouldn't worry about Terrans dying out.


Bogus was an ok-ish A-teamer in BW, but from what I've seen in SC2 he's developing into a total boss.
"My twelve year old will out-reason Bill Maher when it comes to understanding, you know, what, uh, how to logic work" - Rick Santorum
Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
December 12 2012 22:05 GMT
#413
On December 13 2012 07:01 revel8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 06:57 Snowbear wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:52 revel8 wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:48 Hiea wrote:
Another factor in TvZ I think a lot of people never think about is scouting.

Zerg can scout almost anything if they want to.

Terrans can't scout unless they sacrifice all their hellions, and it might just get blocked completely, scans in early game doesn't work because they could place their tech at the main, natural or 3rd, the corner of the base, front of the natural, etc.


Terrans have scan which is completely unblockable and reveals hidden units. Zergs have it hardest to scout the opponents bases, you have to actually sneak a unit in there.


1) A scan = a lost mule = a loss of 270 minerals.
2) Imagine I scan the main. BOOM: all tech is in the natural. Okay, let's scan the natural then. BOOM, the zerg is droning and nothing is coming soon. I lost a total of 540 minerals = a full OC.


I am not saying a scan is free. Of course it is not. However it is unblockable and so is ALWAYS an option. If Terrans have marines, turrets around their bases and maintain a wall then Zergs cannot scout a Terran base at all. Terrans can scan and this cannot be prevented.

I'm only talking about early-mid game, once you get to the 15 minute mark, I think the terran should scan, if a hive has completed, scan further till you find something.

But earlier if lets say you wanna scout for x zerg all in like a roach baneling, you can scan the natural, but then if it's at the main you lost resources, however zerg with the nitro speed overlords can see pretty much everything the terran has, combined with overlords chillin' on cliffs (CK natural). Every now and again the zerg might get extremely unlucky, but generally his gonna scout you, since you also don't want your stuff at the very edge of your base as terran, as its easily sniped if the zerg goes mutalisk, or just annoying to defend.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 12 2012 22:05 GMT
#414
so much for the SKT rumor then
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McBengt
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1684 Posts
December 12 2012 22:06 GMT
#415
Day9 in agony! Call a doctor!
"My twelve year old will out-reason Bill Maher when it comes to understanding, you know, what, uh, how to logic work" - Rick Santorum
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
December 12 2012 22:06 GMT
#416
On December 13 2012 07:04 StarVe wrote:
I wasn't watching, but Brown to Acer!

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/14qxqh/acer_welcomes_brown_formerly_of_slayers/

Scarlett confirmed, dunno if they said it on stream or where the guy got it from.


Ah, who do I cheer for?! Go B-S-B-S.
Never make a hydralisk.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 22:07:31
December 12 2012 22:06 GMT
#417
On December 13 2012 07:05 Shellshock1122 wrote:
so much for the SKT rumor then

Well, she might be joking, I'm not totally sure.

No source given is always a bit iffy.
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 22:08:06
December 12 2012 22:06 GMT
#418
Please be a mothership expand.

Might make this a bit interesting,,,
Damn it. No fun.
Prof
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada60 Posts
December 12 2012 22:07 GMT
#419
I'm glad so many of you aren't impressed by Scarlett's skill.

However, the following people have stated that they are impressed by her skill:
Stephano - stated that she has the best mechanics of all foreigners
Nerchio - has stated that her mechanics are better than his
Suppy - watches her stream to improve his game and has wondered how she can be so good in her stream chat
DRG - stated that you can't win against her if you have the same build she's that good
Leenock - said the same thing as DRG
Bomber - said that she was very good

I think i'll trust their opinions over those of the random posts on this thread, but that's just me.
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
December 12 2012 22:07 GMT
#420
On December 13 2012 07:04 StarVe wrote:
I wasn't watching, but Brown to Acer!

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/14qxqh/acer_welcomes_brown_formerly_of_slayers/

Scarlett confirmed, dunno if they said it on stream or where the guy got it from.


Acer might have the third best Foreign SC2 team now, especially if MMA regains his mojo.
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