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Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
December 12 2012 21:56 GMT
#381
Terrible execution by Brown -_-
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
December 12 2012 21:56 GMT
#382
terrible execution by brown...
IronSquid
Profile Joined January 2012
France487 Posts
December 12 2012 21:56 GMT
#383
Poll: Recommend winners' match game 1

No (12)
 
71%

Yes (4)
 
24%

If you have time (1)
 
6%

17 total votes

Your vote: Recommend winners' match game 1

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 21:56:39
December 12 2012 21:56 GMT
#384
Edit: Woa wtf.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
December 12 2012 21:56 GMT
#385
Scarlett delayed that long enough to clean it up. where was the probe for pylon...
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 21:56:51
December 12 2012 21:56 GMT
#386
On December 13 2012 06:56 TheBB wrote:
TaeJa vs. Brown

TaeJa wins (0.00%):

Brown wins (100.00%):
      2-1: 100.00%

Most likely winner: Brown (100.00%)
Median outcome: TaeJa 1-2 Brown

[image loading]

details, data source, code

I agree
too slow! it is here forever
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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
December 12 2012 21:56 GMT
#387
On December 13 2012 06:53 Gesarjack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 06:45 dcemuser wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:43 Gesarjack wrote:
Wow I had no idea this would be the winner's match. Now I suppose Brown is favorite to get out of the group first, severely unexpected


Well he did knock out Life (and now Taeja) so clearly there is something to his success.


I expected that he would beat Life, his PvZ is really really good, I just never thought he could beat a terran ever.

Again, seriously stop counting that series lol, Life had to throw it due to Korean law
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
December 12 2012 21:56 GMT
#388
Brown vs. Scarlett

Brown wins (25.97%):
      2-1: 25.97%

Scarlett wins (74.03%):
      2-0: 49.04%
      2-1: 24.99%

Most likely winner: Scarlett (74.03%)
Median outcome: Brown 1-2 Scarlett

[image loading]

details, data source, code
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10137 Posts
December 12 2012 21:56 GMT
#389
On December 13 2012 06:56 TheBB wrote:
Edit: Woa wtf.


Lol
Dekkers
Profile Joined February 2012
France315 Posts
December 12 2012 21:57 GMT
#390
Can't believe she defended
Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 21:57:26
December 12 2012 21:57 GMT
#391
On December 13 2012 06:52 revel8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 06:48 Hiea wrote:
Another factor in TvZ I think a lot of people never think about is scouting.

Zerg can scout almost anything if they want to.

Terrans can't scout unless they sacrifice all their hellions, and it might just get blocked completely, scans in early game doesn't work because they could place their tech at the main, natural or 3rd, the corner of the base, front of the natural, etc.


Terrans have scan which is completely unblockable and reveals hidden units. Zergs have it hardest to scout the opponents bases, you have to actually sneak a unit in there.


1) A scan = a lost mule = a loss of 270 minerals.
2) Imagine I scan the main. BOOM: all tech is in the natural. Okay, let's scan the natural then. BOOM, the zerg is droning and nothing is coming soon. I lost a total of 540 minerals = a full OC.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 12 2012 21:57 GMT
#392
On December 13 2012 06:56 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 06:53 Gesarjack wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:45 dcemuser wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:43 Gesarjack wrote:
Wow I had no idea this would be the winner's match. Now I suppose Brown is favorite to get out of the group first, severely unexpected


Well he did knock out Life (and now Taeja) so clearly there is something to his success.


I expected that he would beat Life, his PvZ is really really good, I just never thought he could beat a terran ever.

Again, seriously stop counting that series lol, Life had to throw it due to Korean law

I already posted the source that confirms this in the thread as well
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McBengt
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1684 Posts
December 12 2012 21:57 GMT
#393
On December 13 2012 06:55 IMoperator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 06:53 Diavlo wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:47 Fireflies wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:41 Hider wrote:
Enjoyed the part where Scarlett clicked F on marine Kings army. THat was just awesome. Well done scarlett. Looking like one of the best foreigners.


Scarlett had to make many choices in those games so don't make fun of her. Witness her total mastery of the keys 1, a, f and t and weep knowing that you'll never be able to command such vastly different armies as infestor/broodlord or broodlord/infestor in such an entertaining way.


According to Stephano, Scarlett has the best mechanics of any foreigner. So no, you probably won't be able to command such armies as well as her.


Idra, Huk, Naniwa, Nerchio, Kas, Demuslim all have better mechanics imo. I think she's a good player, but mechanics wise she's nothing special.


Idra, Nani and Demu yes, I'd say so. Unsure about the others. I would say Scarlett's late game army control is better than Huk's for sure.
"My twelve year old will out-reason Bill Maher when it comes to understanding, you know, what, uh, how to logic work" - Rick Santorum
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
December 12 2012 21:57 GMT
#394
On December 13 2012 06:56 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 06:56 TheBB wrote:
TaeJa vs. Brown

TaeJa wins (0.00%):

Brown wins (100.00%):
      2-1: 100.00%

Most likely winner: Brown (100.00%)
Median outcome: TaeJa 1-2 Brown

[image loading]

details, data source, code

I agree
too slow! it is here forever

I must now go into exile for ever to hide my shame.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 21:58:20
December 12 2012 21:57 GMT
#395
On December 13 2012 06:45 Maluk wrote:
People here are saying MKP played bad, but Scarlett did not play amazing either. They both built up armies, attacked into each other. Don't see how you can conclude from that that Scarlett has more skill (which is known to be wrong by everyone by the way).


I think you make two valid points here and then cock it up with a false statement. Plenty of people have lauded Scarlett's skill. The people she's beat in the last few months, ESPECIALLY the zergs should be testiment enough. That, and there's a Stephano interview where he states Scarlett has possibly the best mechanics of any foreign zerg.

It's not really fair to say either player has more skill right now but it's definitely wrong to say that EVERYONE knows that Scarlett isn't as skilled as MKP. We need to see more, but so far I for one still like her odds.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
December 12 2012 21:57 GMT
#396
On December 13 2012 06:55 karpotoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 06:52 revel8 wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:48 Hiea wrote:
Another factor in TvZ I think a lot of people never think about is scouting.

Zerg can scout almost anything if they want to.

Terrans can't scout unless they sacrifice all their hellions, and it might just get blocked completely, scans in early game doesn't work because they could place their tech at the main, natural or 3rd, the corner of the base, front of the natural, etc.


Terrans have scan which is completely unblockable and reveals hidden units. Zergs have it hardest to scout the opponents bases, you have to actually sneak a unit in there.


Oh, come on. When is it a bad idea to make infestors?


Your balance whining is tiresome. Also against TL rules.
InvictusRage
Profile Joined August 2011
United States230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 21:58:22
December 12 2012 21:58 GMT
#397
On December 13 2012 06:55 IMoperator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 06:53 Diavlo wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:47 Fireflies wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:41 Hider wrote:
Enjoyed the part where Scarlett clicked F on marine Kings army. THat was just awesome. Well done scarlett. Looking like one of the best foreigners.


Scarlett had to make many choices in those games so don't make fun of her. Witness her total mastery of the keys 1, a, f and t and weep knowing that you'll never be able to command such vastly different armies as infestor/broodlord or broodlord/infestor in such an entertaining way.


According to Stephano, Scarlett has the best mechanics of any foreigner. So no, you probably won't be able to command such armies as well as her.


Idra, Huk, Naniwa, Nerchio, Kas, Demuslim all have better mechanics imo. I think she's a good player, but mechanics wise she's nothing special.


pretty sure soon after Scarlett joined Acer, Nerchio commented that he thought her mechanics were much better than his.

EDIT: at least when she was playing well.
Gesarjack
Profile Joined June 2012
Switzerland117 Posts
December 12 2012 21:58 GMT
#398
On December 13 2012 06:56 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 06:53 Gesarjack wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:45 dcemuser wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:43 Gesarjack wrote:
Wow I had no idea this would be the winner's match. Now I suppose Brown is favorite to get out of the group first, severely unexpected


Well he did knock out Life (and now Taeja) so clearly there is something to his success.


I expected that he would beat Life, his PvZ is really really good, I just never thought he could beat a terran ever.

Again, seriously stop counting that series lol, Life had to throw it due to Korean law


How about counting that he has 100% winrate against zerg in GSL televised games and something around 75% total then?
You've got to have trolls under bridges. Otherwise, what's it all about?
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
December 12 2012 21:58 GMT
#399
On December 13 2012 06:58 Gesarjack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 06:56 HaXXspetten wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:53 Gesarjack wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:45 dcemuser wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:43 Gesarjack wrote:
Wow I had no idea this would be the winner's match. Now I suppose Brown is favorite to get out of the group first, severely unexpected


Well he did knock out Life (and now Taeja) so clearly there is something to his success.


I expected that he would beat Life, his PvZ is really really good, I just never thought he could beat a terran ever.

Again, seriously stop counting that series lol, Life had to throw it due to Korean law


How about counting that he has 100% winrate against zerg in GSL televised games and something around 75% total then?

better
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 12 2012 21:58 GMT
#400
On December 13 2012 06:53 Hiea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 06:50 justinpal wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:48 HaXXspetten wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:46 Hiea wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:44 virpi wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:40 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 13 2012 06:39 virpi wrote:
mkp is the huk of terran.

how does that make sense? he went over 2 bases in both games

yes, that's true. I was referring to his status as top tier player, I honestly don't think he's as good as he used to be a few months ago. And he's also kinda limited in his playing style.
But yeah...Huk doesn't seem to be the perfect comparison when you take all aspects into consideration, I have to agree.

MKP is like Flash in greed.

Except people never all in Flash for some reason, so he looks much better.

...he was much better?


Flash lost all the time to all-ins. 14 cc? (well, not all-the time)

Almost every game I've seen of Flash its been 14cc, and not one has tried to hard counter it, I may of missed a game here or there.


Then you weren't watching close enough because several players did lmao.
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