EPT[NASL] Season 4 Grand Finals Day 2 - Page 80
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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imre
France9263 Posts
On December 10 2012 09:30 hifriend wrote: sad game, sortof played well but his reaction to the one drop was god aweful.. Took him like 2 full minutes to restart pool, he would've had time to build spire/infestation pit before the hive died as well. he fears other Z nerfs maybe :p | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32747 Posts
On December 10 2012 09:30 GhostKorean wrote: What happened to the NASL overlay? *Insert NASL staff joke* | ||
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Maloreon
United States911 Posts
On December 10 2012 09:28 Schelim wrote: this was such a nice example of the state of this matchup. Polt kills all the tech, plays 10x better than sortof and... barely wins!!! amazing times with the new patch folks. the commentary also is second to none. I see this all the time in threads - the Terran plays differently to "outplay" but its only more obvious visually. The stuff Zerg has to do to outplay with this style is not visually obvious (laying spines, passively defending, map presence, etc.)... I get so tired of reading it though its completely false. If you watch Zerg and Terran pros streaming there is no significant difference in APM's or speed, and in these games the decision making is good by both. But yet its always Terran played perfect (because you can SEE their drops) and Zerg passivity and defensive play is ignored. Sortof's drop defense could have been much better but beyond that he played really well. | ||
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SwizzY
United States1549 Posts
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zhurai
United States5660 Posts
On December 10 2012 09:31 Maloreon wrote: I see this all the time in threads - the Terran plays differently to "outplay" but its only more obvious visually. The stuff Zerg has to do to outplay with this style is not visually obvious (laying spines, passively defending, map presence, etc.)... I get so tired of reading it though its completely false. If you watch Zerg and Terran pros streaming there is no significant difference in APM's or speed, and in these games the decision making is good by both. But yet its always Terran played perfect (because you can SEE their drops) and Zerg passivity and defensive play is ignored. Sortof's drop defense could have been much better but beyond that he played really well. laying spines and spores is considered hard now? >_> lol | ||
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Snusmumriken
Sweden1717 Posts
On December 10 2012 09:28 Schelim wrote: this was such a nice example of the state of this matchup. Polt kills all the tech, plays 10x better than sortof and... barely wins!!! amazing times with the new patch folks. the commentary also is second to none. I play terarn and have never ever played zerg so its kinda hard for me to judge. It looked like polt had to work much harder for that win (basically the only reason he won despite impressive play throughout was a semisneaky semilucky drop). But that might just be my terranbias as I admittedly know little of zerg mechanics. I think its in part due to terran looking more multi-tasky from a spectator perspective, whether that is actually true or not I dont know. | ||
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NEEDZMOAR
Sweden1277 Posts
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
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n0ise
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On December 10 2012 09:31 Maloreon wrote: I see this all the time in threads - the Terran plays differently to "outplay" but its only more obvious visually. The stuff Zerg has to do to outplay with this style is not visually obvious (laying spines, passively defending, map presence, etc.)... I get so tired of reading it though its completely false... I don't get your point, aren't those exactly what people are referring to?  | ||
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felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
On December 10 2012 09:32 NEEDZMOAR wrote: Watch out... its TSLragnarok vs I||||||||||||||||||||| :D ||||||||||| HWAITING^^ Psh. TSLragnarok GOT THIS. | ||
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NEEDZMOAR
Sweden1277 Posts
On December 10 2012 09:32 zhurai wrote: laying spines and spores is considered hard now? >_> lol shift queueing drops is considered hard now? >_> | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
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Maloreon
United States911 Posts
On December 10 2012 09:32 zhurai wrote: laying spines and spores is considered hard now? >_> lol Again, you as a Terran pick ONE thing that the Zerg has to do (spines) and ignore everything else I mentioned which isn't even the whole story: map presence/vision, positioning, macro, micro, etc. All require same APM's as what Polt did (lets be honest drops take like 10 APM's to pull off, hardly outplaying)... I'm done with this discussion it never goes anywhere. Terran players will always downplay Zerg pros making good moves because its not as visually obvious or bias or whatever. Really hurts the LR threads though. | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On December 10 2012 09:34 Maloreon wrote: Again, you as a Terran pick ONE thing that the Zerg has to do (spines) and ignore everything else I mentioned which isn't even the whole story: map presence/vision, positioning, macro, micro, etc. All require same APM's as what Polt did (lets be honest drops take like 10 APM's to pull off, hardly outplaying)... I'm done with this discussion it never goes anywhere. Terran players will always downplay Zerg pros making good moves because its not as visually obvious or bias or whatever. Really hurts the LR threads though. you don't macro in the lategame as Z btw. Since you're caped off larvae. Real drop play is harder than anything Z has to do /w infest/blords/corru but Polt drops were a bit disappointing, not a lot of micro. Tho you can lose your main army to 2/3fungal so no one is really dropping well nowadays. | ||
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SwizzY
United States1549 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
Could have been said more eloquently, but pretty much this. | ||
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morlakaix
United States860 Posts
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