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kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 08 2012 22:59 GMT
#4241
On December 09 2012 07:57 revel8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2012 07:54 kollin wrote:
Anyone know if this was viewable over twitch, or if it was just a black screen because of the pay wall?


I saw some of the stream and then the VODs on twitch for free.


Oh balls, what I meant to say was, is this viewable over the twitch app? ^^
Rollies
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom29 Posts
December 08 2012 23:03 GMT
#4242
So been from europe and not been able to watch theese matches live, I found out that on my way to find the broadcast on the twitch tv channel under "past broadcasts" I wasnt able to do this without spoilers, As i browse for the 6 hour vod of the full broadcast to watch i could see how many sets were played in the games by the seperate game videos in there so knowing who ever won the 1st game won it all since there were 4 sets there only.

So my question is anyway to get to the 6 hour full broadcast without the soilers? Just makes it more interesting not knowing how many sets were played....
IcedBacon
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada906 Posts
December 08 2012 23:22 GMT
#4243
On December 09 2012 01:33 kafkaesque wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2012 01:31 kuroshiro wrote:
Did doa get to cast?


Yeah and he was brilliant.


Brilliant? More like never had any correct analysis and his jokes were subpar. He really doesn't know anything about the current strategies anymore. At least he has a nice voice though.
"I went Zerg because Artosis is a douchebag." -IdrA
Lawliet
Profile Joined May 2010
United States70 Posts
December 09 2012 00:28 GMT
#4244
These games were horribly one sided. None of the Kespa players did anything "tailor built" or anything either. Just straight up outplayed or in Jaedong's case SOUL TRAIN.

They didn't have their core though I guess we'll see. But this is very worrisome. Will this happen frequently? I can't see EGTL doing very well without HerO and Taeja. And that's only 2 wins.

I can see the team doing very well in all kill format though.
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
December 09 2012 00:35 GMT
#4245
On December 09 2012 09:28 Lawliet wrote:
These games were horribly one sided. None of the Kespa players did anything "tailor built" or anything either. Just straight up outplayed or in Jaedong's case SOUL TRAIN.

They didn't have their core though I guess we'll see. But this is very worrisome. Will this happen frequently? I can't see EGTL doing very well without HerO and Taeja. And that's only 2 wins.

I can see the team doing very well in all kill format though.

Sea might be able to do damage as well (maybe as a Protoss sniper, his style is very unique) and if Stephano is there he can pick up wins as well. We also don't know much about how good Jaedong truly is, everybody can lose to that Immortal/Sentry all-in.
Taipoka
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1224 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-09 00:38:39
December 09 2012 00:37 GMT
#4246
On December 09 2012 09:28 Lawliet wrote:
These games were horribly one sided. None of the Kespa players did anything "tailor built" or anything either. Just straight up outplayed or in Jaedong's case SOUL TRAIN.

They didn't have their core though I guess we'll see. But this is very worrisome. Will this happen frequently? I can't see EGTL doing very well without HerO and Taeja. And that's only 2 wins.

I can see the team doing very well in all kill format though.


The point is preparation.
It was the most efective builds to that maps against that opponents.
This is what is a team play when its not all kill, and you know the map and your opponent.
This is preparation.
And in the 7th day, Flash stopped macroing the universe.
SoFrOsTy
Profile Joined December 2011
United States525 Posts
December 09 2012 00:43 GMT
#4247
On December 09 2012 08:22 IcedBacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2012 01:33 kafkaesque wrote:
On December 09 2012 01:31 kuroshiro wrote:
Did doa get to cast?


Yeah and he was brilliant.


Brilliant? More like never had any correct analysis and his jokes were subpar. He really doesn't know anything about the current strategies anymore. At least he has a nice voice though.


Yeah I have to agree with you here. He was really bad actually. Didn't seem like he had any idea what he was talking about. I really like him so maybe the next one will be better. But last night's wasn't very good.
Julyzerg ftw
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 09 2012 00:47 GMT
#4248
On December 09 2012 09:43 SoFrOsTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2012 08:22 IcedBacon wrote:
On December 09 2012 01:33 kafkaesque wrote:
On December 09 2012 01:31 kuroshiro wrote:
Did doa get to cast?


Yeah and he was brilliant.


Brilliant? More like never had any correct analysis and his jokes were subpar. He really doesn't know anything about the current strategies anymore. At least he has a nice voice though.


Yeah I have to agree with you here. He was really bad actually. Didn't seem like he had any idea what he was talking about. I really like him so maybe the next one will be better. But last night's wasn't very good.


He's not doing any more.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
December 09 2012 04:47 GMT
#4249
I know EG-TL missed arguably their top 3 players, but those players won't win all their games when they do participate, especially given that they have international commitments as well (that probably goes for all EG-TL players). You need a deep squad to have any chance of doing well in the proleague, and I just don't see that in EG-TL.

Oh, and does anyone know if EG-TL is planning on scaling back their participation of international events? I get they are important in terms of getting their players' & teams' brands out there, as well as the money & prestige that comes with winning these tournaments, but no team has a chance of winning or even finishing well in the proleague if their players are constantly facing fatigue and lack of practice due to excessive travelling. I think any advantage the EG-TL players might have had by playing SC2 for longer is wiped out, and then some, by the sheer amount of practice these Kespa players get in, as well as their natural talent. Then there's the issue of EG-TL's inexperience of playing in the proleague as well as their less disciplined practice regiment.

I only bring this up because I don't want to see EG-TL become what ACE was the majority of the time. The very fact that EG and TL is even getting a chance to play in the proleague is something out of a dream, but that doesn't mean they should just half-ass it and just be satisfied that they're participating at all. I want to see them commit everything they have in doing as well as they possibly could in the proleague. If not, I don't see why they even decided to join at all.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
ardi
Profile Joined February 2012
United States187 Posts
December 09 2012 05:50 GMT
#4250
noise/person from that crowd is inedible.
Doors block the thrust of life!!!!
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
December 09 2012 06:59 GMT
#4251
On December 09 2012 14:50 ardi wrote:
noise/person from that crowd is inedible.

Noise is generally not edible, and while you shouldn't ever eat a person, I don't think that's impossible, technically speaking.
Hello
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
December 09 2012 07:09 GMT
#4252
On December 09 2012 13:47 Telcontar wrote:
I know EG-TL missed arguably their top 3 players, but those players won't win all their games when they do participate, especially given that they have international commitments as well (that probably goes for all EG-TL players). You need a deep squad to have any chance of doing well in the proleague, and I just don't see that in EG-TL.

Oh, and does anyone know if EG-TL is planning on scaling back their participation of international events? I get they are important in terms of getting their players' & teams' brands out there, as well as the money & prestige that comes with winning these tournaments, but no team has a chance of winning or even finishing well in the proleague if their players are constantly facing fatigue and lack of practice due to excessive travelling. I think any advantage the EG-TL players might have had by playing SC2 for longer is wiped out, and then some, by the sheer amount of practice these Kespa players get in, as well as their natural talent. Then there's the issue of EG-TL's inexperience of playing in the proleague as well as their less disciplined practice regiment.

I only bring this up because I don't want to see EG-TL become what ACE was the majority of the time. The very fact that EG and TL is even getting a chance to play in the proleague is something out of a dream, but that doesn't mean they should just half-ass it and just be satisfied that they're participating at all. I want to see them commit everything they have in doing as well as they possibly could in the proleague. If not, I don't see why they even decided to join at all.

Having your top 3 players all lose is usually incredibly rare as that means you are almost getting swept. It just doesn't happen much. Most teams count on not having their best players lose.
lordvnm
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany45 Posts
December 09 2012 13:53 GMT
#4253
On December 09 2012 05:59 revel8 wrote:
I am not saying that Stephano is going to roll the Kespa players. I think they will probably be extremely strong opponents. However obviously Stephano is also going to be one of the strongest players that EG-TL can field and more of a challenge than Zenio. I am keen to see what will happen. Isn't this what people want to see, how Stephano does in Korean tournaments?


I don't think that Stephano will make a big difference in Proleague. As mentioned by others it's all about preparation and studying your opponents. And the one think we know about Stephano for sure is: he doesn't train (or in this case: prepare) much.
"Rock is op. Paper is fine." - Scissors
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12970 Posts
December 09 2012 13:57 GMT
#4254
On December 09 2012 22:53 lordvnm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2012 05:59 revel8 wrote:
I am not saying that Stephano is going to roll the Kespa players. I think they will probably be extremely strong opponents. However obviously Stephano is also going to be one of the strongest players that EG-TL can field and more of a challenge than Zenio. I am keen to see what will happen. Isn't this what people want to see, how Stephano does in Korean tournaments?


I don't think that Stephano will make a big difference in Proleague. As mentioned by others it's all about preparation and studying your opponents. And the one think we know about Stephano for sure is: he doesn't train (or in this case: prepare) much.

He won't need to prepare much to win.
WriterMaru
lordvnm
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany45 Posts
December 09 2012 14:40 GMT
#4255
On December 09 2012 22:57 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2012 22:53 lordvnm wrote:
On December 09 2012 05:59 revel8 wrote:
I am not saying that Stephano is going to roll the Kespa players. I think they will probably be extremely strong opponents. However obviously Stephano is also going to be one of the strongest players that EG-TL can field and more of a challenge than Zenio. I am keen to see what will happen. Isn't this what people want to see, how Stephano does in Korean tournaments?


I don't think that Stephano will make a big difference in Proleague. As mentioned by others it's all about preparation and studying your opponents. And the one think we know about Stephano for sure is: he doesn't train (or in this case: prepare) much.

He won't need to prepare much to win.


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"Rock is op. Paper is fine." - Scissors
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-09 14:43:09
December 09 2012 14:41 GMT
#4256
On December 09 2012 22:57 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2012 22:53 lordvnm wrote:
On December 09 2012 05:59 revel8 wrote:
I am not saying that Stephano is going to roll the Kespa players. I think they will probably be extremely strong opponents. However obviously Stephano is also going to be one of the strongest players that EG-TL can field and more of a challenge than Zenio. I am keen to see what will happen. Isn't this what people want to see, how Stephano does in Korean tournaments?


I don't think that Stephano will make a big difference in Proleague. As mentioned by others it's all about preparation and studying your opponents. And the one think we know about Stephano for sure is: he doesn't train (or in this case: prepare) much.

He won't need to prepare much to win.

lol. Playing in Proleague vs Kespa players is an other level... He will be very suprised of being raped if he doesn't prepare seriously his matches.
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12970 Posts
December 09 2012 14:45 GMT
#4257
On December 09 2012 23:41 Glioburd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2012 22:57 Poopi wrote:
On December 09 2012 22:53 lordvnm wrote:
On December 09 2012 05:59 revel8 wrote:
I am not saying that Stephano is going to roll the Kespa players. I think they will probably be extremely strong opponents. However obviously Stephano is also going to be one of the strongest players that EG-TL can field and more of a challenge than Zenio. I am keen to see what will happen. Isn't this what people want to see, how Stephano does in Korean tournaments?


I don't think that Stephano will make a big difference in Proleague. As mentioned by others it's all about preparation and studying your opponents. And the one think we know about Stephano for sure is: he doesn't train (or in this case: prepare) much.

He won't need to prepare much to win.

lol. Playing in Proleague vs Kespa players is an other level... He will be very suprised of being raped if he doesn't prepare seriously his matches.

It's SC2 not BW. It will be very random because bo1 isn't suited for sc2 but still.
WriterMaru
alone
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland410 Posts
December 09 2012 14:46 GMT
#4258
On December 09 2012 23:45 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2012 23:41 Glioburd wrote:
On December 09 2012 22:57 Poopi wrote:
On December 09 2012 22:53 lordvnm wrote:
On December 09 2012 05:59 revel8 wrote:
I am not saying that Stephano is going to roll the Kespa players. I think they will probably be extremely strong opponents. However obviously Stephano is also going to be one of the strongest players that EG-TL can field and more of a challenge than Zenio. I am keen to see what will happen. Isn't this what people want to see, how Stephano does in Korean tournaments?


I don't think that Stephano will make a big difference in Proleague. As mentioned by others it's all about preparation and studying your opponents. And the one think we know about Stephano for sure is: he doesn't train (or in this case: prepare) much.

He won't need to prepare much to win.

lol. Playing in Proleague vs Kespa players is an other level... He will be very suprised of being raped if he doesn't prepare seriously his matches.

It's SC2 not BW. It will be very random because bo1 isn't suited for sc2 but still.


And how is bo1 more suited for BW?
ThatAintFalco
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States26 Posts
December 09 2012 14:49 GMT
#4259
I really don't think this means anything at all. TL-EG didn't come with 3 players that would've been on their rosters for sure (Stephano, Hero, Taeja) and Thorzain's game wasn't even that bad. He probably would've won if he had held off that timing push.
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
December 09 2012 15:30 GMT
#4260
On December 09 2012 23:45 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2012 23:41 Glioburd wrote:
On December 09 2012 22:57 Poopi wrote:
On December 09 2012 22:53 lordvnm wrote:
On December 09 2012 05:59 revel8 wrote:
I am not saying that Stephano is going to roll the Kespa players. I think they will probably be extremely strong opponents. However obviously Stephano is also going to be one of the strongest players that EG-TL can field and more of a challenge than Zenio. I am keen to see what will happen. Isn't this what people want to see, how Stephano does in Korean tournaments?


I don't think that Stephano will make a big difference in Proleague. As mentioned by others it's all about preparation and studying your opponents. And the one think we know about Stephano for sure is: he doesn't train (or in this case: prepare) much.

He won't need to prepare much to win.

lol. Playing in Proleague vs Kespa players is an other level... He will be very suprised of being raped if he doesn't prepare seriously his matches.

It's SC2 not BW. It will be very random because bo1 isn't suited for sc2 but still.

preparing for one preset map is easier than for three, regardless of games
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