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On December 10 2012 21:02 FFW_Rude wrote:That's why i didn't get TvZ or PvZ on Bifrost. Why send a zerg when basicly you will eat up Tank Fire from that thin ledge. And god... 1forcefield can kill you in this map. I think it would be cool for HOTS. but i don't know for zerg in WoL but that's what makes kespa map awesomes  Caldeum was... Interesting. Got the same idea as you Zerg can fast expand on Arkanoid. Doa said it in the first match that the creep blocks T and P but the tumor doesn't actually block a Zerg. Classic vs Fantasy was awesome. I was sur SKT was dead and Fantasy played really well. The other match(the tvt ... WS ? vs 8th ?) i don't remember was not really good but yeah. Arkanoid is fun. Bifrost was my most concern. Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 20:59 BLinD-RawR wrote:On December 10 2012 20:19 lordvnm wrote:On December 10 2012 18:01 USvBleakill wrote:
Taeja, JD and Hero just have to carry that team. "One does not simply carry a non all-kill league." - Boromir in a Bo7 with ace match you only need 3 players. Actually you need 4
I actually think Bifrost might force zerg to play a more versatile muta build for its layout instead of the much boring roach timing (hi Shine) or rushing for BL
btw previously used player can be repeated as ace, so yeah you need minimum 3 competitive players, the rest can be default losses
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On December 10 2012 21:02 FFW_Rude wrote:That's why i didn't get TvZ or PvZ on Bifrost. Why send a zerg when basicly you will eat up Tank Fire from that thin ledge. And god... 1forcefield can kill you in this map. I think it would be cool for HOTS. but i don't know for zerg in WoL but that's what makes kespa map awesomes Caldeum was... Interesting. Got the same idea as you Zerg can fast expand on Arkanoid. Doa said it in the first match that the creep blocks T and P but the tumor doesn't actually block a Zerg. Classic vs Fantasy was awesome. I was sur SKT was dead and Fantasy played really well. The other match(the tvt ... WS ? vs 8th ?) i don't remember was not really good but yeah. Arkanoid is fun. Bifrost was my most concern. Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 20:59 BLinD-RawR wrote:On December 10 2012 20:19 lordvnm wrote:On December 10 2012 18:01 USvBleakill wrote:
Taeja, JD and Hero just have to carry that team. "One does not simply carry a non all-kill league." - Boromir in a Bo7 with ace match you only need 3 players. Actually you need 4
Nope, 3. The ACE player can be one of those in the lineup.
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On December 10 2012 21:34 Glioburd wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 21:02 FFW_Rude wrote:That's why i didn't get TvZ or PvZ on Bifrost. Why send a zerg when basicly you will eat up Tank Fire from that thin ledge. And god... 1forcefield can kill you in this map. I think it would be cool for HOTS. but i don't know for zerg in WoL but that's what makes kespa map awesomes Caldeum was... Interesting. Got the same idea as you Zerg can fast expand on Arkanoid. Doa said it in the first match that the creep blocks T and P but the tumor doesn't actually block a Zerg. Classic vs Fantasy was awesome. I was sur SKT was dead and Fantasy played really well. The other match(the tvt ... WS ? vs 8th ?) i don't remember was not really good but yeah. Arkanoid is fun. Bifrost was my most concern. On December 10 2012 20:59 BLinD-RawR wrote:On December 10 2012 20:19 lordvnm wrote:On December 10 2012 18:01 USvBleakill wrote:
Taeja, JD and Hero just have to carry that team. "One does not simply carry a non all-kill league." - Boromir in a Bo7 with ace match you only need 3 players. Actually you need 4 Nope, 3. The ACE player can be one of those in the lineup.
But you can't assume they have 100% winrate.
Even if all 3 of them have 80% winrate, the team winrate will be 41%, can't make playoff. Ofc they can make up points in winners league, maybe make the playoff, but playoff is in regular format.
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Welcome to Proleague EG-TL , welcome to hell . This should be a wake up call for them . Going on a losing streak could be really bad at the start now that they are playing with the big boys .
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On December 10 2012 15:27 ChApFoU wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2012 04:34 rysecake wrote:On December 09 2012 04:28 decado90 wrote:On December 09 2012 04:17 ssi.bal-listic wrote:
hopefully TLEG can use this loss as a motivation to show the koreans that foreigners can compete at the same level It's been proven for over 10.5 years that they can't. That ship's sailed. fixed ROFL, sad but true ^^ If you look at the international ELO rankings there's not a single foreigner in the top 10 (yes, Stephano is 11 or something) and like 10 at best in the top 40 :D Funny how our community is in complete denial and almost never touches the subject. And well, about BW, do we really need to talk about it ? :p When Testie/mondi/Draco managed to take a game off a B-teamer on iccup every 6 months we were popping up the champagne xD
Funny how you weren't saying anything when Stephano was top 3 ELO for about 6 months in a row, and he's now 9th with the same points as MVP and Supernova. Besides, are you seriously using ELO points to rank players?
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On December 10 2012 21:42 ZerglingTwins wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 21:34 Glioburd wrote:On December 10 2012 21:02 FFW_Rude wrote:That's why i didn't get TvZ or PvZ on Bifrost. Why send a zerg when basicly you will eat up Tank Fire from that thin ledge. And god... 1forcefield can kill you in this map. I think it would be cool for HOTS. but i don't know for zerg in WoL but that's what makes kespa map awesomes Caldeum was... Interesting. Got the same idea as you Zerg can fast expand on Arkanoid. Doa said it in the first match that the creep blocks T and P but the tumor doesn't actually block a Zerg. Classic vs Fantasy was awesome. I was sur SKT was dead and Fantasy played really well. The other match(the tvt ... WS ? vs 8th ?) i don't remember was not really good but yeah. Arkanoid is fun. Bifrost was my most concern. On December 10 2012 20:59 BLinD-RawR wrote:On December 10 2012 20:19 lordvnm wrote:On December 10 2012 18:01 USvBleakill wrote:
Taeja, JD and Hero just have to carry that team. "One does not simply carry a non all-kill league." - Boromir in a Bo7 with ace match you only need 3 players. Actually you need 4 Nope, 3. The ACE player can be one of those in the lineup. But you can't assume they have 100% winrate. Even if all 3 of them have 80% winrate, the team winrate will be 41%, can't make playoff. Ofc they can make up points in winners league, maybe make the playoff, but playoff is in regular format.
Yes, but you also can't assume the other 3 will have 0% win rates either.
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Just watched the games. Shame for EG-TL. I'm sure we will see some great games in the future!
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Oh yeah. Forgot that ace could be picked again. (Silly me... Rain was picked again)
Agreed for BiFrost with muta play. That would be cool
Hope to see some SkyTerran on Arkanoid too.
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Neither of the Unholy Alliance's top players were even present in Korea for this. The first four players should have been:
Stephano
HerO
TaeJa
JaeDong
Can't wait to see the results when the entire roster is present for fielding.
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On December 10 2012 23:08 raga4ka wrote:Welcome to Proleague EG-TL , welcome to hell . This should be a wake up call for them . Going on a losing streak could be really bad at the start now that they are playing with the big boys .
They got a lesson alright but the lesson was in starcraft II's unpredictability, a truth a large part of the community and a majority of the active sc2 community zealously denies. Preparation and analysis doesn't hold the same weight as it did in brood war due to the different nature of the game and it's long overdue they stopped pretending it's brood war 2.0 when they try to write their predictions.
Even the most optimistic and stubborn can talk this away.
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Where can i watch vods of proleague?
I heard they would be provided free somewhere
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Flash ftw yo. he the best.
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