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StarCraft2
Profile Joined October 2012
160 Posts
November 23 2012 17:32 GMT
#1681
On November 24 2012 02:31 Integra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 02:29 StarCraft2 wrote:
Nani is through, but this we already knew (well I did) and it does not change Retjes behavior, at all. Man I've followed you since your BW run though Korea, didn't think this of you Ret. Oh well, reals fans don't give up so easily, and I won't, but you better spoon Naz tonight!

Source please, and don't use the outdated dreamhack bracket, Apollo, or liquipedia.

Hellspawn
TheSwedishFan
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden608 Posts
November 23 2012 17:32 GMT
#1682
Answer this please
What would have happened if Ret won 2 - 1?
"Suck it" - Kennigit 2012
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
November 23 2012 17:32 GMT
#1683
OK, apologies to Ret!

I trusted Apollo's statement supposed to be backed by an admin, who might've just trusted that admin, who seemed to have no idea in the end.
It's still not the best promotion for him or his team, but that's a thing he has to decide for himself!
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
November 23 2012 17:32 GMT
#1684
On November 24 2012 02:29 eu.xen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 02:22 Astro-Penguin wrote:
See everyone calm the f down and stop harassing Ret now, geez this community is ridiculous! Always jumping to the worst conclusions...

The admins wrote Apollo and he said if Ret loses that game NE is through over Naniwa. So it's quite understandable most of us thought while watching that Ret is unfairly throwing the game. Not everybody takes a break in watching, tries to figure out tie rules and do the math themselves when there was such a definite sounding clearcut answer given over the stream.

God all you people having figured that out earlier, get over yourselves. You all know how this misunderstanding developed and now you just want to feel superior.

In any case, the only one that got screwed here is Ret, cause 98% of tens of thousands of viewers thought he is throwing a game unfairly.


Not only that but it shouldn't matter whether Ret throwing the game affects the results or not. It didn't when Naniwa did it and look at the shitstorm that caused.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 17:33:44
November 23 2012 17:32 GMT
#1685
kinda obvious sase wasn't playing seriously that game :3
@QxGDarkCell ._.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 23 2012 17:32 GMT
#1686
On November 24 2012 02:29 Astro-Penguin wrote:
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On November 24 2012 02:28 NightEnD wrote:
what rule is that? .... it should be 3 way tie .....


I dont know man I feel really bad for you, your getting effed over but otherwise great games man you work really hard and deserve better than this

tt

He is not getting fucked over. Stop making up stuff to create more drama.

Of course Naniwa adavances as he has the better map score for the games between 3 tied players. Completely normal that naniwa advances. Anything else would mean that someone is getting fucked over.
Off-season = best season
Day9notdead
Profile Joined June 2012
Russian Federation501 Posts
November 23 2012 17:32 GMT
#1687
On November 24 2012 02:23 qqK wrote:
http://www.dreamhack.se/dhw11/files/2011/11/DHW11-StarCraftIIRulebook-1.1.pdf
So, according to this, nani should go through

yeah damn.. looks like internal map +- applies in this case so we have
Nani 3-2
Forgg 2-3
NE 3-3
Nani is through then...
Pirat6662001
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation949 Posts
November 23 2012 17:32 GMT
#1688
If Sase just sat at his 3rd after sniping 2 colossus with phoenixes he would have just won.... PLEASE HELP BLY GET THROUGH
So.. this Earth, nice planet you might say- WRONG!!
pprrii
Profile Joined September 2012
Russian Federation216 Posts
November 23 2012 17:33 GMT
#1689
Can some admin explain this NE and Naniwa situation? Cuz it looks like Naniwa clearly should advance
Hylirion
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands968 Posts
November 23 2012 17:33 GMT
#1690
Ret did nothing wrong, he played a meaningless game out in a meaningless way. It's Dreamhacks fault that meaningless games have to be played, not Ret's. It's also Dreamhacks fault that nobody understood it was meaningless because the casters were getting the wrong information.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10138 Posts
November 23 2012 17:33 GMT
#1691
On November 24 2012 02:32 TheSwedishFan wrote:
Answer this please
What would have happened if Ret won 2 - 1?


What part of being already a 0-1 Naniwa went through did you not understand ?
mijellin
Profile Joined November 2008
China740 Posts
November 23 2012 17:33 GMT
#1692
On November 24 2012 02:31 Gladiator333 wrote:
Dreamhack should really get a new set of rules T_T

Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 02:31 mijellin wrote:
There really needs to be a sticky post at the top of this thread telling everyone that ret throwing game 2 did not matter at all


But he did in fact threw the game, it just didn't matter.


That's totally fine. You are welcome to criticize him for that. But many people think incorrectly that Ret throwing game 2 had a bearing on nightend/naniwa going on, and that is NOT true. Personal opinions aside, people should be made aware of the facts.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
November 23 2012 17:33 GMT
#1693
On November 24 2012 02:31 Dotq wrote:
LOL, now it says NANIWA is out.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_DreamHack_Open/Winter


nasl sound guy editing liquipedia
Terran & Potato Salad.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
November 23 2012 17:33 GMT
#1694
On November 24 2012 02:32 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 02:31 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:29 HaXXspetten wrote:
meanwhile

SaSe has Carriers and Mothership in PvP


Standard
But why does he have them this early? o.O
Is he playing some kind of phoenix/observer/cloaked units?

he went for the standard ground army with the single carrier and mothership into lose the game


Well that's just fucked up then, rofl.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
November 23 2012 17:33 GMT
#1695
Dear dreamhack Gods, please place HerO and Taeja on opposite sides of the tournament.
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 23 2012 17:33 GMT
#1696
On November 24 2012 02:32 TheSwedishFan wrote:
Answer this please
What would have happened if Ret won 2 - 1?

Nani would have advanced on head-to-head score vs Ret
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10138 Posts
November 23 2012 17:33 GMT
#1697
On November 24 2012 02:33 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 02:31 Dotq wrote:
LOL, now it says NANIWA is out.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_DreamHack_Open/Winter


nasl sound guy editing liquipedia


SPIIIIIIDEEEER
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
November 23 2012 17:34 GMT
#1698
Liquipedia, stop playing with my heart!
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
November 23 2012 17:34 GMT
#1699
On November 24 2012 02:32 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 02:31 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:29 HaXXspetten wrote:
meanwhile

SaSe has Carriers and Mothership in PvP


Standard
But why does he have them this early? o.O
Is he playing some kind of phoenix/observer/cloaked units?

he went for the standard ground army with the single carrier and mothership into lose the game


wait a second. Sase is already out but Bly and Fraer are still fighting for it. Or rather Sase is fighting against Fraer for Bly.

Guys, pull your pitch forks out of Ret's body and put them towards Sase.
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Astro-Penguin
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
554 Posts
November 23 2012 17:34 GMT
#1700
On November 24 2012 02:32 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 02:29 Astro-Penguin wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:28 NightEnD wrote:
what rule is that? .... it should be 3 way tie .....


I dont know man I feel really bad for you, your getting effed over but otherwise great games man you work really hard and deserve better than this

tt

He is not getting fucked over. Stop making up stuff to create more drama.

Of course Naniwa adavances as he has the better map score for the games between 3 tied players. Completely normal that naniwa advances. Anything else would mean that someone is getting fucked over.


I'm a huge Naniwa fan and if it was Naniwa not advancing I'd say the same thing, this is the problem with Round Robin groups being played out like this, if theres no initiative for someone to advance then they wont ever play their A game thus giving someone a bit of a lucky advantage. Now specifically I'm not saying this situation alone is screwing NE over if anything it helped him however I feel like the system as a whole needs to take a different approach and account for things like this.
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