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4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 17:21:36
November 23 2012 17:21 GMT
#1521
On November 24 2012 02:17 Musicus wrote:
Naniwa is through the group, it didn't matter since Nightend won 1 map Naniwa was safe and Ret knew that. So stop the shitstorm and calm down people.


Y ok, I read a version of the rules in which NE actually take this. But maybe that is not the offical rules.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
narkissos
Profile Joined December 2011
198 Posts
November 23 2012 17:21 GMT
#1522
On November 24 2012 02:19 Archvil3 wrote:
Nightend, ForGG and Naniwa are all 5-7 in maps.

Naniwa beats ForGG 2-0
Nightend beats Naniwa 2-1
ForGG beats Nightend 2-1

So they are all even except that Naniwa is the only one with a 2-0 victory in the 3-way tie.

Naniwa should be the one advancing.


pretty shore this is accurate and Ret know it so just relax a bit.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10142 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 17:21:27
November 23 2012 17:21 GMT
#1523
On November 24 2012 02:17 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 02:15 Eee wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:14 HaXXspetten wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:13 Eee wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:12 Godwrath wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:12 TeeTS wrote:
well, you remember the Naniwa incident? Ret is now obviously throwing a game that is affecting another player. This is really the worst sportsmanship I have seen in a long time.
I really hope that TL takes the action here and punishes him harshly for that!


IT DOESNT AFFECT NANIWA.


FFS.

it does, if Ret takes a map Naniwa advances...

HE STILL ADVANCES dfiothfdiuid

why do people keep saying this, they will be even in mapscore but Nani has better head-to-head (3-2 vs 3-3)

Head to head means Naniwa vs NightEnd results which favours NightEnd, not Naniwa.

IT
DOESNT
MATTER

because ForGG is in the equation as well on THE SAME grounds, and in the threeway tie situation, Nani wins (2-0 > 2-1 / 2-1)





Let's quote this a bit more so people start to thinking straight. forGG IS ALSO TIED and you CAN'T DISCARD HIM.
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
November 23 2012 17:21 GMT
#1524
On November 24 2012 02:20 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 02:18 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
So unprofessional...1 of the reasons were light years away from Korea...

Yeah, Koreans have never thrown a game!

lol


There are serious repercussions when they do.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
falafelnr1
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden444 Posts
November 23 2012 17:21 GMT
#1525
Official bracket has nani through !
http://dreamhack.binarybeast.com/xSC21210265
DoubleB
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany870 Posts
November 23 2012 17:21 GMT
#1526
:O that was really embarrasing to watch ret act like this.
Vapaach
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland994 Posts
November 23 2012 17:21 GMT
#1527
What? There is no way Nightend can go automatically through.. all 3 are 5-7, and their games went like this:

Naniwa v Nightend 1-2
Naniwa v ForGG 2-0
Nightend v ForGG 1-2
If you never try you never know. Sase - Mana - TLO - WhiteRa - Naniwa - Sheth - HuK
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
November 23 2012 17:21 GMT
#1528
On November 24 2012 02:20 Ryps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 02:19 Archvil3 wrote:
Nightend, ForGG and Naniwa are all 5-7 in maps.

Naniwa beats ForGG 2-0
Nightend beats Naniwa 2-1
ForGG beats Nightend 2-1

So they are all even except that Naniwa is the only one with a 2-0 victory in the 3-way tie.

Naniwa should be the one advancing.

That makes no sense must be some Naniwa fan logic lol


Nani 3-2 NE 3-3.

Nani is better, Nani through.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23578 Posts
November 23 2012 17:21 GMT
#1529
On November 24 2012 02:18 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 02:16 Hylirion wrote:
Didn't Ret just do this because he found out the match was meaningless for both him AND Nightend? I don't think he would do it to stop Naniwa., that would be stupid.


I have a suspicion that this was the case.


As many people tried to explain during the shitstorm, this is definitly the case. Naniwa was sure to advance since Night won one map. Ret knew that of course or he would never do that. So it's the same as Nani's probe rush, since it did not affect another player, just that ret did it with more style .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 17:39:24
November 23 2012 17:21 GMT
#1530
Three players tied 5-7

In a mini league between these three

Naniwa 3-2
Nightend 3-2
ForGG 2-2

ForGG out

Direct comparison between Naniwa and Nightend -> Nightend wins


Sorry, was interrupted doing this. Probably wrong.
Prugelhugel
Profile Joined February 2012
Austria637 Posts
November 23 2012 17:21 GMT
#1531
On November 24 2012 02:18 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Wait, what happened?


Ret found out that he was already out of the tournament and it was either Nightend (If he wins) or Naniwa (If Ret wins) advancing.
So he just mass baneling allined him without success and put down 4 hatches to make a statement for Naniwa.
"This map definitly needs more rocks" - No SC2 player ever
Footler
Profile Joined January 2010
United States560 Posts
November 23 2012 17:21 GMT
#1532
On November 24 2012 02:16 Hylirion wrote:
Didn't Ret just do this because he found out the match was meaningless for both him AND Nightend? I don't think he would do it to stop Naniwa., that would be stupid.


This. It really seemed like both Ret and even Nightend thought the game was meaningless.
I am The-Sink! Parting bandwagoner before it became a soul train.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24603 Posts
November 23 2012 17:21 GMT
#1533
Meanwhile, Sase is revolutionising PvP.


It's that or we're going to have another shitstorm about throwing games in a few minutes.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 23 2012 17:21 GMT
#1534
On November 24 2012 02:20 Ryps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 02:19 Archvil3 wrote:
Nightend, ForGG and Naniwa are all 5-7 in maps.

Naniwa beats ForGG 2-0
Nightend beats Naniwa 2-1
ForGG beats Nightend 2-1

So they are all even except that Naniwa is the only one with a 2-0 victory in the 3-way tie.

Naniwa should be the one advancing.

That makes no sense must be some Naniwa fan logic lol

romanian...

it makes 100% sense and is the only logical conclusion

well unless you ignore internal head-to-head scores in which case it'd be a true three-way tie and we'd need regames

however, NO MATTER WHAT Nightend and ForGG can NOT advance right away, that is simply incorrect mathematically
XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
November 23 2012 17:21 GMT
#1535
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_DreamHack_Open/Winter

Naniwa goes through!

KING IN THE NORTH
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) APM, Why u make me spam?
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
November 23 2012 17:21 GMT
#1536
On November 24 2012 02:20 Ryps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 02:19 Archvil3 wrote:
Nightend, ForGG and Naniwa are all 5-7 in maps.

Naniwa beats ForGG 2-0
Nightend beats Naniwa 2-1
ForGG beats Nightend 2-1

So they are all even except that Naniwa is the only one with a 2-0 victory in the 3-way tie.

Naniwa should be the one advancing.

That makes no sense must be some Naniwa fan logic lol


That's pretty sound logic and I hate Naniwa.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Dotq
Profile Joined March 2012
Norway235 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 17:22:59
November 23 2012 17:22 GMT
#1537
Why is naniwa through, when he has same map score as nightend, but lost to him head to head?????
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
November 23 2012 17:22 GMT
#1538
NANIWA!
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
November 23 2012 17:22 GMT
#1539
Can someone take 1 minute to explain this drama?
Day9notdead
Profile Joined June 2012
Russian Federation501 Posts
November 23 2012 17:22 GMT
#1540
On November 24 2012 02:20 Ryps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 02:19 Archvil3 wrote:
Nightend, ForGG and Naniwa are all 5-7 in maps.

Naniwa beats ForGG 2-0
Nightend beats Naniwa 2-1
ForGG beats Nightend 2-1

So they are all even except that Naniwa is the only one with a 2-0 victory in the 3-way tie.

Naniwa should be the one advancing.

That makes no sense must be some Naniwa fan logic lol

fuck that I say they all play each other like in GSL up n downs that would make at least some sense..
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