EPT[DreamHack] Winter Day 1 - Page 94
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Putty
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Oyman_tr
Turkey104 Posts
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OlSpiced
Austria96 Posts
On November 23 2012 04:09 DarkLordOlli wrote: Btw, can anybody tell me how Monchi beat Nerchio? Monchi rolled over him Nerchio 7 pooled him. Didn't work, added Roaches, tried again, failed again. Monchi moves out and kills Nerchio. Second game Monchi pushed out with a huge force on 3 bases and killed off Expansion 4 and 5 of Nerchio, reinforced his army and killed of what was left of Nerchio. I know not very detailed, but well at least something i guess | ||
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On November 23 2012 04:11 Poopi wrote: The fuck lol? He built units all game long, killing barracks would be hurting him in these low econs situations, especially since he had almost no SCVs to rebuild them. I feel like HT drop to kill the maximum of workers (to reduce the number of scvs in order to increase the effectiveness of the future warp prism harass) then barracks kill in the main and stuff would have been a better way to deal with ThorZaIN strat. Anyways there is no excuse to lose to that because everyone knows how ThorZaIN plays TvP especially on this map, you should come better prepared vs that strat if you expect to beat him. Especially killing techlabs, ThorZain was actually losing a lot of ghosts by mistakes or in battles. | ||
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n0ise
3452 Posts
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jnd
Czech Republic915 Posts
On November 23 2012 04:13 BeyondCtrL wrote: OK, lets say Naniwa warped in zealots into Thorzains base and Tzain had no income or SCV... warping in 20 zealots into Thorzains base would just make Thorzain go across map and kill Nani. His zealots would be attacking building building NOTHING... It's really tough to say what Nani could have truly done to overcome so many Ghosts. I mean it wasn't as if Tzain actually played better. Then he can catch Terran army on ramp, storm everything, and try to defend while Zealots keep tearing the depots and rest of base so Thorzain can't replenish his army easily. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On November 23 2012 04:12 Avicularia wrote: First game was 8 pool into one base roach attack. Second, Nerchio forgot that fungal is still in game. It also helps that Monchi has the best PvZ in europe after Fraer and maybe Titan but recently definitly better than Titan. | ||
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On November 23 2012 04:12 Hider wrote: Sure they do. Have 15 ht's spread out. Maybe he emp's half of them. Doesn't matter as long as you just get off 3-5 storms and you can killl 50%+ of his army. Then you rebuild at home; NOT IN FRONT of THorzains army. That was the biggest mistake he made last game and one of the most stupidest thing I have ever seen. If he concentrates and scans well, basically no spread of HTs will help you. But I agree with the other things Naniwa did wrong. | ||
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Urth
United States1252 Posts
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BeyondCtrL
Sweden642 Posts
On November 23 2012 04:15 jnd wrote: Then he can catch Terran army on ramp, storm everything, and try to defend while Zealots keep tearing the depots and rest of base so Thorzain can't replenish his army easily. How is he replenishing army when he has no money? | ||
Poopi
France12911 Posts
On November 23 2012 04:14 Hider wrote: Yeh you kinda miss the deeper meaning about positioning. Watch Ryung --> Positional strategical player. MKP = Great micro player, but just attack attack basically. Neither Naniwa nor MKP are strategically positoinal players. They are timing attacks/micro players. Lol NaNiwa and MKP are good strategical positionnal players, the fuck are you saying o_o. They all are at this level. | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
On November 23 2012 04:14 -_- wrote: I don't think so. With Vikings out, WP can get sniped. Also, you need to stay at like 170 supply to warp in, which means even if you do warp in, he can A move you. Thorzain played VERY well. I think P has an advantage late game, and I think 9/10 P wins in those situations. Props to 'Zain. Vikings isn't gonna catch SPEED warp prism in the late game if Toss controlled well(Rain,Seed,Parting). You are definitely gonna find holes in their base defense and just warped in 5-10 zealots and then harassed in another location. Plus,immortals are shit against ghosts with medivacs. Should have make more HT and controlled them better. | ||
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udgnim
United States8024 Posts
On November 23 2012 04:12 udgnim wrote: how Crank dealt with Thorzain's composition http://www.twitch.tv/lonestarclash/b/339084387 2:47:30 2:51:0 | ||
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TheSir
1830 Posts
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Derrida
2885 Posts
On November 23 2012 04:17 Salteador Neo wrote: lol TLO vs Nerchio chat :D I missed  Summary? | ||
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Dr.Sin
Canada1126 Posts
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MangoMountain
Norway2044 Posts
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snam
Sweden78 Posts
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