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I think someone should make a mod where all the units are in the carbot style. Perhaps as unlockables wiht leveling in HoTS
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Fatigue is starting to set in. Is 3rd/4th Bo5? Sure hoping so.
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On November 18 2012 17:06 Hopelessnoob wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 17:05 DinosaurJones wrote:
Sen for 3rd, Creator for 2nd and Parting 1st plz. Well if sen gets 3rd, parting will get 2nd, no EG player in the top 8. all curses are in effect and the world is all good
suppy isnt an EG player now eh
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On November 18 2012 17:06 Myrddraal wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 16:59 Baroninthetree wrote:On November 18 2012 16:55 GolemMadness wrote:On November 18 2012 16:53 Woizit wrote:On November 18 2012 16:50 thepuppyassassin wrote:On November 18 2012 16:48 Die4Ever wrote:On November 18 2012 16:41 Wildmoon wrote:On November 18 2012 16:39 BlackGosu wrote:
this is why im losing interest in sc2. no stable champions No sport has stable champion. Creator recently won TSL4, WCS Korea, got 4th? in WCS Asian, and is now in the finals of BWC and in the ro8 in Code S... Leenock got 2nd place in the most recent MLG, 1st in the previous one, ro8 Code S.... Life won Code S and MLG and 2nd place TSL4 Rain won OSL, 3rd in WCS Korea, 1st WCS Asia, 3rd/4th in BWC, 3rd/4th in Code S MVP wins pretty much everything else no stable champions my ass, people often claim that the same guys winning all the money is preventing rising talent What people really want is another bonjwa. It seems as if the scene is starved for one. I wonder if it will ever happen. It will definitely be a good thing if it does though.. It won't be possible for a bonjwa to rise in the scene as it is now. Unless you manage to support the entire pro scene to fly around to every single tournament around, there will always be so and so won this other big tournament when one person is dominating somewhere. That doesn't matter. If someone consistently wins/places very high in top tournaments like GSL and MLG, it doesn't matter if someone else is winning some other tournament occasionally. SC1 is just such a small society that makes bonjwa possible. community like SC2 is so big that no one can dominate like SC1, not now, not ever. We will only have consistent good player, like MVP in the past years, this will be the closest thing to a bonjwa Since when did bonjwa dictate that the player had to win every tournament there is? I was never under the impression that the player had to even win every tournament they played to be considered, let alone every tournament that they don't play as well. Dominance can be achieved by winning most things and being a favourite to win any tournament they enter as long as they don't start slumping after a few months like they normally do.
The problem is that they can't. No body can stay dominant for long in SC2. 1 is the patch keeps on coming. And it will do for a few years. 2 is there are just too many to players now, its just hard to stay on top for long.
Takes rain for example, he really looks dominant in like 1 mth ago, then just fell behind quickly. This happens to all the others, even Life.
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On November 18 2012 17:10 Havik_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 17:07 mrtomjones wrote:On November 18 2012 17:03 red4ce wrote:
The payout structure for this tournament is absurd. $60k at stake being decided by a coinflip-y matchup. It isn't coin flippy anymore. Hasnt been for ages. Not true. Although its far better than it once was.
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Daaamn Sen just shows up and OWNS!... Congratulations to him, either 3rd or 4th is extremely impressive, a truly awesome performance
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Why is it still showing cartoons? Start already...
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On November 18 2012 17:07 Baroninthetree wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 17:02 GolemMadness wrote:On November 18 2012 16:59 Baroninthetree wrote:On November 18 2012 16:55 GolemMadness wrote:On November 18 2012 16:53 Woizit wrote:On November 18 2012 16:50 thepuppyassassin wrote:On November 18 2012 16:48 Die4Ever wrote:On November 18 2012 16:41 Wildmoon wrote:On November 18 2012 16:39 BlackGosu wrote:
this is why im losing interest in sc2. no stable champions No sport has stable champion. Creator recently won TSL4, WCS Korea, got 4th? in WCS Asian, and is now in the finals of BWC and in the ro8 in Code S... Leenock got 2nd place in the most recent MLG, 1st in the previous one, ro8 Code S.... Life won Code S and MLG and 2nd place TSL4 Rain won OSL, 3rd in WCS Korea, 1st WCS Asia, 3rd/4th in BWC, 3rd/4th in Code S MVP wins pretty much everything else no stable champions my ass, people often claim that the same guys winning all the money is preventing rising talent What people really want is another bonjwa. It seems as if the scene is starved for one. I wonder if it will ever happen. It will definitely be a good thing if it does though.. It won't be possible for a bonjwa to rise in the scene as it is now. Unless you manage to support the entire pro scene to fly around to every single tournament around, there will always be so and so won this other big tournament when one person is dominating somewhere. That doesn't matter. If someone consistently wins/places very high in top tournaments like GSL and MLG, it doesn't matter if someone else is winning some other tournament occasionally. SC1 is just such a small society that makes bonjwa possible. community like SC2 is so big that no one can dominate like SC1, not now, not ever. We will only have consistent good player, like MVP in the past years, this will be the closest thing to a bonjwa Koreans are the best in the world. More Koreans played Brood War. Foreigners don't come into the equation that much. What you say makes no sense. Actually only about 100 korean played SC1 including those trainers. You can see how many in SC2 community now. SC2 is designed to be more player friendly, less mechanics and more mind games. And i guess it works.
there were at least 150+ active pros who were kespa ranked, more than 400 amateur/semipros a lot of them living in semipro houses, plus a ton more who are just like B/B+ ranked on iccup, so not "100 korean"....
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Speaking of Suppy, I find it remarkable that he only BARELY qualified for WCS North America, then didn't qualify for the World at all and was only brought it in as a sub for Ostojiy... and then proceeded to go the furthest of any American and any EG player in the entire tourney. Scary that. Good on him.
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guys, if there's a bonjwa in sc2, it's definitely MVP, if not, MVP is still the closest to it. case closed.
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On November 18 2012 17:11 Astro-Penguin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 17:10 Havik_ wrote:On November 18 2012 17:07 mrtomjones wrote:On November 18 2012 17:03 red4ce wrote:
The payout structure for this tournament is absurd. $60k at stake being decided by a coinflip-y matchup. It isn't coin flippy anymore. Hasnt been for ages. Not true. Although its far better than it once was. not to be mean but you make an incredible amount of incorrect statements quiet frequently...
So mean!!
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On November 18 2012 17:09 zefreak wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 17:06 Myrddraal wrote:On November 18 2012 16:59 Baroninthetree wrote:On November 18 2012 16:55 GolemMadness wrote:On November 18 2012 16:53 Woizit wrote:On November 18 2012 16:50 thepuppyassassin wrote:On November 18 2012 16:48 Die4Ever wrote:On November 18 2012 16:41 Wildmoon wrote:On November 18 2012 16:39 BlackGosu wrote:
this is why im losing interest in sc2. no stable champions No sport has stable champion. Creator recently won TSL4, WCS Korea, got 4th? in WCS Asian, and is now in the finals of BWC and in the ro8 in Code S... Leenock got 2nd place in the most recent MLG, 1st in the previous one, ro8 Code S.... Life won Code S and MLG and 2nd place TSL4 Rain won OSL, 3rd in WCS Korea, 1st WCS Asia, 3rd/4th in BWC, 3rd/4th in Code S MVP wins pretty much everything else no stable champions my ass, people often claim that the same guys winning all the money is preventing rising talent What people really want is another bonjwa. It seems as if the scene is starved for one. I wonder if it will ever happen. It will definitely be a good thing if it does though.. It won't be possible for a bonjwa to rise in the scene as it is now. Unless you manage to support the entire pro scene to fly around to every single tournament around, there will always be so and so won this other big tournament when one person is dominating somewhere. That doesn't matter. If someone consistently wins/places very high in top tournaments like GSL and MLG, it doesn't matter if someone else is winning some other tournament occasionally. SC1 is just such a small society that makes bonjwa possible. community like SC2 is so big that no one can dominate like SC1, not now, not ever. We will only have consistent good player, like MVP in the past years, this will be the closest thing to a bonjwa Since when did bonjwa dictate that the player had to win every tournament there is? I was never under the impression that the player had to even win every tournament they played to be considered, let alone every tournament that they don't play as well. Dominance can be achieved by winning most things and being a favourite to win any tournament they enter as long as they don't start slumping after a few months like they normally do. Then Mvp is already a bonjwa
Yeah, if not. He's the closest thing that will ever get.
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On November 18 2012 17:10 Noc- wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 17:02 Hiea wrote:On November 18 2012 17:00 Noc- wrote:On November 18 2012 16:58 MCXD wrote:On November 18 2012 16:55 Torra wrote:
What's the story behind Parting's immortal-sentry all in and "wonwonwon" and "soul train"? When he started using it in the GSL, he said in an interview the reason it works so well for him (more than others) is because he puts his SOUL into it, something which other progamers can't hope to emulate. As such it is since become known as the Soul Train, and PartinG has also become known as Soultoss. The "wonwonwon" is another name for the strategy, devised because: * Won is PartinG's last name. * Won is the korean currency (so people who like money use it). * You have 'won' if you pulled it off. * It sounds like 1/1/1, another infamous and previously OP all-in build. * There is 3 wons, for each of the 3 immortals in the standard build of it. And now he did it successfully 3 times a row too, ROFL. 3 is the magic number, WonWonWon And it was to give Sen a chance at getting another 3rd place! Damn that is true. o.O All these number 3's....confused. Also, Partings birthday is August(8th month) 24th. Now lets do some math, 24/8 and what do we get....OMG its 3! Coincidence? I think not.
You know the numer for top control? Yeah.
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On November 18 2012 17:11 X3GoldDot wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 17:06 Hopelessnoob wrote:On November 18 2012 17:05 DinosaurJones wrote:
Sen for 3rd, Creator for 2nd and Parting 1st plz. Well if sen gets 3rd, parting will get 2nd, no EG player in the top 8. all curses are in effect and the world is all good suppy isnt an EG player now eh
oh shit... forgot about him XD!!!
he is so... non EG like... i dunno how to explain. When u think of EG i always just think of the initial few. never think of huk, thor, suppy, steph as eg players...
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On November 18 2012 17:12 ultratorr wrote:
Why is it still showing cartoons? Start already...
I think they have to follow this schedule (generally no sooner than 10 mins or so).
Set it to your local time first.
I haven't been following the tournament all the way but I remember like a 30-40 min break before a game start (it started 10 mins before the designated scheduled time).
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OMG, those cartoons are so cute! Blizzard should have some secret skin that makes all the units look that adorable in-game, like that D3 unicorn level.
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On November 18 2012 17:12 MCXD wrote:
Speaking of Suppy, I find it remarkable that he only BARELY qualified for WCS North America, then didn't qualify for the World at all and was only brought it in as a sub for Ostojiy... and then proceeded to go the furthest of any American and any EG player in the entire tourney. Scary that. Good on him.
I suppose he just gets LANs. Something about traveling, adjusting, and performing that he understands.
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On November 18 2012 17:11 Baroninthetree wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 17:06 Myrddraal wrote:On November 18 2012 16:59 Baroninthetree wrote:On November 18 2012 16:55 GolemMadness wrote:On November 18 2012 16:53 Woizit wrote:On November 18 2012 16:50 thepuppyassassin wrote:On November 18 2012 16:48 Die4Ever wrote:On November 18 2012 16:41 Wildmoon wrote:On November 18 2012 16:39 BlackGosu wrote:
this is why im losing interest in sc2. no stable champions No sport has stable champion. Creator recently won TSL4, WCS Korea, got 4th? in WCS Asian, and is now in the finals of BWC and in the ro8 in Code S... Leenock got 2nd place in the most recent MLG, 1st in the previous one, ro8 Code S.... Life won Code S and MLG and 2nd place TSL4 Rain won OSL, 3rd in WCS Korea, 1st WCS Asia, 3rd/4th in BWC, 3rd/4th in Code S MVP wins pretty much everything else no stable champions my ass, people often claim that the same guys winning all the money is preventing rising talent What people really want is another bonjwa. It seems as if the scene is starved for one. I wonder if it will ever happen. It will definitely be a good thing if it does though.. It won't be possible for a bonjwa to rise in the scene as it is now. Unless you manage to support the entire pro scene to fly around to every single tournament around, there will always be so and so won this other big tournament when one person is dominating somewhere. That doesn't matter. If someone consistently wins/places very high in top tournaments like GSL and MLG, it doesn't matter if someone else is winning some other tournament occasionally. SC1 is just such a small society that makes bonjwa possible. community like SC2 is so big that no one can dominate like SC1, not now, not ever. We will only have consistent good player, like MVP in the past years, this will be the closest thing to a bonjwa Since when did bonjwa dictate that the player had to win every tournament there is? I was never under the impression that the player had to even win every tournament they played to be considered, let alone every tournament that they don't play as well. Dominance can be achieved by winning most things and being a favourite to win any tournament they enter as long as they don't start slumping after a few months like they normally do. The problem is that they can't. No body can stay dominant for long in SC2. 1 is the patch keeps on coming. And it will do for a few years. 2 is there are just too many to players now, its just hard to stay on top for long. Takes rain for example, he really looks dominant in like 1 mth ago, then just fell behind quickly. This happens to all the others, even Life.
Most important is the amount of tournaments players play and travel to, there are simply so much more then in BW and unlike BW most are outside of Korea even.
You can't simply win all of them no one can be that dominant, and if you lose 1/2 people already call it like you have fallen off. As you now do with Life and Rain.
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