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Poll: Head?Creator (81) 70% PartinG (35) 30% 116 total votes Your vote: Head? (Vote): PartinG
(Vote): Creator
Poll: Heart?PartinG (64) 53% Creator (57) 47% 121 total votes Your vote: Heart? (Vote): PartinG
(Vote): Creator
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On November 18 2012 17:16 Baroninthetree wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 17:12 rauk wrote:On November 18 2012 17:07 Baroninthetree wrote:On November 18 2012 17:02 GolemMadness wrote:On November 18 2012 16:59 Baroninthetree wrote:On November 18 2012 16:55 GolemMadness wrote:On November 18 2012 16:53 Woizit wrote:On November 18 2012 16:50 thepuppyassassin wrote:On November 18 2012 16:48 Die4Ever wrote:On November 18 2012 16:41 Wildmoon wrote:
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No sport has stable champion.
Creator recently won TSL4, WCS Korea, got 4th? in WCS Asian, and is now in the finals of BWC and in the ro8 in Code S... Leenock got 2nd place in the most recent MLG, 1st in the previous one, ro8 Code S.... Life won Code S and MLG and 2nd place TSL4 Rain won OSL, 3rd in WCS Korea, 1st WCS Asia, 3rd/4th in BWC, 3rd/4th in Code S MVP wins pretty much everything else no stable champions my ass, people often claim that the same guys winning all the money is preventing rising talent What people really want is another bonjwa. It seems as if the scene is starved for one. I wonder if it will ever happen. It will definitely be a good thing if it does though.. It won't be possible for a bonjwa to rise in the scene as it is now. Unless you manage to support the entire pro scene to fly around to every single tournament around, there will always be so and so won this other big tournament when one person is dominating somewhere. That doesn't matter. If someone consistently wins/places very high in top tournaments like GSL and MLG, it doesn't matter if someone else is winning some other tournament occasionally. SC1 is just such a small society that makes bonjwa possible. community like SC2 is so big that no one can dominate like SC1, not now, not ever. We will only have consistent good player, like MVP in the past years, this will be the closest thing to a bonjwa Koreans are the best in the world. More Koreans played Brood War. Foreigners don't come into the equation that much. What you say makes no sense. Actually only about 100 korean played SC1 including those trainers. You can see how many in SC2 community now. SC2 is designed to be more player friendly, less mechanics and more mind games. And i guess it works. there were at least 150+ active pros who were kespa ranked, more than 400 amateur/semipros a lot of them living in semipro houses, plus a ton more who are just like B/B+ ranked on iccup, so not "100 korean".... Really? Where are those active pro now. Are they even able to show their face in GM in KR serve. How active is that? And, 400 amateur/semipros? That's exactly what i mean small community.
OMG, dont be stubborn, in Korea BW was and even now is more popular that SC2 is going to be in its whole life, (of course now there isnt pro BW), so your point is wrong and uninfomed
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woohoooo foreigners tear !!!
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On November 18 2012 17:19 MCXD wrote:Haha where the heck is that from.
One of Puma's Twitter Pics
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On November 18 2012 17:18 TheDiversion wrote:"I got Money and Hos!" + Show Spoiler +
Like a boss!
But seriously, is that image from this event?
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If it takes to be dominant for a long time and a threat then Stephano is a bonjwa.
Also please don't even trip like Stephano isn't one of the best, if not for tripping up on his buddy Idra, possibly throwing he would be in the finals right now.
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On November 18 2012 17:15 twndomn wrote:
Sen totally deserves to lose to Parting. Parting just does same all-in 3 times, your own fault for Not doing anything different to adjust, stubbornness cost Sen, not Race, not Map.
Now, who's the best Foreigner? Don't tell me Stephano, he didn't even make top 16, Naniwa didn't even make it to China.
Well, Naniwa didn't make it, but neither did MVP, Life, Leenock, or MKP. I don't think they are any less of a player, so you can't really judge them ^_^
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Oh god..... Cheer for Parting, as he's my favorite protoss? Or cheer for Creator? In hopes that him winning will help Prime out............. Blahh and its a PvP T,T it won't even be that great to watch.
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On November 18 2012 17:12 Schelim wrote:
guys, if there's a bonjwa in sc2, it's definitely MVP, if not, MVP is still the closest to it. case closed.
Only until ActionJezuz makes his return
On October 2011 14:08 Milkis wrote Who would you like to thank? I want to thank my teammates  Happy, dreamertt, YoDa, and Fenix,who recently joined our team, for helping me practice. I also want to thank TSL.Clide, TSL.aLive, and SlayerS. Ryung. I want to thank our sponsors CoCa-Cola and Googims, and my manager Kang Dong Hoon for always working hard for the players. It would be nice if we could bring in similar results in the future. Finally, I'd like to thank Lars Krøjmand, ActionJezuz,, who just came over from Denmark, and Youngwha who's been helping me stay sharp with the other matchup's while I practiced for the finals.
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On November 18 2012 17:18 TheDiversion wrote:"I got Money and Hos!" + Show Spoiler +
Them $1 bills will get you lots of hos.
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On November 18 2012 17:19 opterown wrote:Poll: Head?Creator (81) 70% PartinG (35) 30% 116 total votes Your vote: Head? (Vote): PartinG
(Vote): Creator
Poll: Heart?PartinG (64) 53% Creator (57) 47% 121 total votes Your vote: Heart? (Vote): PartinG
(Vote): Creator
Poll: Soul?Parting (40) 85% Creator (7) 15% 47 total votes Your vote: Soul? (Vote): Parting
(Vote): Creator
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top players all koreans.....no suprise i guess 
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On November 18 2012 17:19 palexhur wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 17:16 Baroninthetree wrote:On November 18 2012 17:12 rauk wrote:On November 18 2012 17:07 Baroninthetree wrote:On November 18 2012 17:02 GolemMadness wrote:On November 18 2012 16:59 Baroninthetree wrote:On November 18 2012 16:55 GolemMadness wrote:On November 18 2012 16:53 Woizit wrote:On November 18 2012 16:50 thepuppyassassin wrote:On November 18 2012 16:48 Die4Ever wrote:
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Creator recently won TSL4, WCS Korea, got 4th? in WCS Asian, and is now in the finals of BWC and in the ro8 in Code S...
Leenock got 2nd place in the most recent MLG, 1st in the previous one, ro8 Code S....
Life won Code S and MLG and 2nd place TSL4
Rain won OSL, 3rd in WCS Korea, 1st WCS Asia, 3rd/4th in BWC, 3rd/4th in Code S
MVP wins pretty much everything else
no stable champions my ass, people often claim that the same guys winning all the money is preventing rising talent What people really want is another bonjwa. It seems as if the scene is starved for one. I wonder if it will ever happen. It will definitely be a good thing if it does though.. It won't be possible for a bonjwa to rise in the scene as it is now. Unless you manage to support the entire pro scene to fly around to every single tournament around, there will always be so and so won this other big tournament when one person is dominating somewhere. That doesn't matter. If someone consistently wins/places very high in top tournaments like GSL and MLG, it doesn't matter if someone else is winning some other tournament occasionally. SC1 is just such a small society that makes bonjwa possible. community like SC2 is so big that no one can dominate like SC1, not now, not ever. We will only have consistent good player, like MVP in the past years, this will be the closest thing to a bonjwa Koreans are the best in the world. More Koreans played Brood War. Foreigners don't come into the equation that much. What you say makes no sense. Actually only about 100 korean played SC1 including those trainers. You can see how many in SC2 community now. SC2 is designed to be more player friendly, less mechanics and more mind games. And i guess it works. there were at least 150+ active pros who were kespa ranked, more than 400 amateur/semipros a lot of them living in semipro houses, plus a ton more who are just like B/B+ ranked on iccup, so not "100 korean".... Really? Where are those active pro now. Are they even able to show their face in GM in KR serve. How active is that? And, 400 amateur/semipros? That's exactly what i mean small community. OMG, dont be stubborn, in Korea BW was and even now is more popular that SC2 is going to be in its whole life, (of course now there isnt pro BW), so your point is wrong and uninfomed
As much as you are correct about BW before, you can't actualy predict the future and where Sc2 is going to be compared to a game that has no TV pro scene anymore.
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On November 18 2012 17:18 Baroninthetree wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2012 17:14 Lysanias wrote:On November 18 2012 17:11 Baroninthetree wrote:On November 18 2012 17:06 Myrddraal wrote:On November 18 2012 16:59 Baroninthetree wrote:On November 18 2012 16:55 GolemMadness wrote:On November 18 2012 16:53 Woizit wrote:On November 18 2012 16:50 thepuppyassassin wrote:On November 18 2012 16:48 Die4Ever wrote:On November 18 2012 16:41 Wildmoon wrote:
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No sport has stable champion.
Creator recently won TSL4, WCS Korea, got 4th? in WCS Asian, and is now in the finals of BWC and in the ro8 in Code S... Leenock got 2nd place in the most recent MLG, 1st in the previous one, ro8 Code S.... Life won Code S and MLG and 2nd place TSL4 Rain won OSL, 3rd in WCS Korea, 1st WCS Asia, 3rd/4th in BWC, 3rd/4th in Code S MVP wins pretty much everything else no stable champions my ass, people often claim that the same guys winning all the money is preventing rising talent What people really want is another bonjwa. It seems as if the scene is starved for one. I wonder if it will ever happen. It will definitely be a good thing if it does though.. It won't be possible for a bonjwa to rise in the scene as it is now. Unless you manage to support the entire pro scene to fly around to every single tournament around, there will always be so and so won this other big tournament when one person is dominating somewhere. That doesn't matter. If someone consistently wins/places very high in top tournaments like GSL and MLG, it doesn't matter if someone else is winning some other tournament occasionally. SC1 is just such a small society that makes bonjwa possible. community like SC2 is so big that no one can dominate like SC1, not now, not ever. We will only have consistent good player, like MVP in the past years, this will be the closest thing to a bonjwa Since when did bonjwa dictate that the player had to win every tournament there is? I was never under the impression that the player had to even win every tournament they played to be considered, let alone every tournament that they don't play as well. Dominance can be achieved by winning most things and being a favourite to win any tournament they enter as long as they don't start slumping after a few months like they normally do. The problem is that they can't. No body can stay dominant for long in SC2. 1 is the patch keeps on coming. And it will do for a few years. 2 is there are just too many to players now, its just hard to stay on top for long. Takes rain for example, he really looks dominant in like 1 mth ago, then just fell behind quickly. This happens to all the others, even Life. Most important is the amount of tournaments players play and travel to, there are simply so much more then in BW and unlike BW most are outside of Korea even. You can't simply win all of them no one can be that dominant, and if you lose 1/2 people already call it like you have fallen off. As you now do with Life and Rain. Exactly, the community is so big that no one can dominant that long any more. Simple fact. Afraid it will be a disappointment for those anger for bonjwa in SC2
2011 Mvp is the closest thing we will ever get to Bonjwa I think ;o
Unless the game changes enough in the expansions so that more skilled players can always win.
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Pvp finals is the worst you can have... Ill prob skip it.
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On November 18 2012 17:19 Fionn wrote:
WCS Korea: 3rd
WCS Asia: 2nd
WCS World Championship: ?
1st, now that the kong curse has been broken.
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On November 18 2012 17:21 Irratonalys wrote:top players all koreans.....no suprise i guess
Huh? Sen is top 4, and Suppy/KiLLeR/VortiX are top 8/
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People act like PvP is worse than ZvZ... it's really amazing.
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On November 18 2012 17:21 Irratonalys wrote:top players all koreans.....no suprise i guess
Sen's not Korean, Sen's Taiwanese. Do your homework.
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