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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
November 17 2012 09:06 GMT
#6341
On November 17 2012 18:04 farvacola wrote:
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On November 17 2012 18:02 Asha` wrote:
The good thing about no terrans is it does give a lot of coinflippy chances to our foreigners =p

Nah, I think foreigners are genuinely outplaying their competition, regardless of the implications of mirror match ups.


Well, I do think foreigners have more trouble with Korean Ts as oppose to Ps and Zs. I think that is just due to the low numbers of top foreigner Ts. So players end up working on their vZ and vP a lot more.
NikaLogy
Profile Joined September 2012
Denmark58 Posts
November 17 2012 09:06 GMT
#6342
babyknight 2-o Rain haha :D
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
November 17 2012 09:06 GMT
#6343
Foreigners beating koreans might just save this Tournament in the west.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
November 17 2012 09:06 GMT
#6344
On November 17 2012 18:05 FakeDeath wrote:
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On November 17 2012 18:05 MangoMountain wrote:
People still think zvz / pvp are coin flips? I thought we were done with this in 2011


ZvZ not so much.

PvP is still coinflippy.

PvP statistically best matchup in the game, along with TvT.

195% better than everything else.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
rj rl
Profile Joined May 2012
648 Posts
November 17 2012 09:06 GMT
#6345
On November 17 2012 18:03 Corrosive wrote:
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On November 17 2012 18:02 rj rl wrote:
sc2, the game of allins, fucking joke. Might be a better story if more terrans advanced.

"oh no the player i wanted to win didn't win sc2 is a fucking joke"

and how am i hearing it from an eg supporter? Wasn't you supposed to fanboy idra atm? I neither care about this tournament, nor about sc2 itself, but rain 0-2 bk is a joke indeed.

User was temp banned for this post.
thepuppyassassin
Profile Joined April 2011
900 Posts
November 17 2012 09:06 GMT
#6346
Loving this tournament. Reminds me of the WCG days. Kudos to Titan and Babyknight. Showing that foreigners have some bite. They thought that 100k was as good as theirs... NUH UH!
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
November 17 2012 09:06 GMT
#6347
Hai Tasteless
Get off my lawn, young punks
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
November 17 2012 09:07 GMT
#6348
Mic still on!
I've got moves like Jagger
Akhee
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil811 Posts
November 17 2012 09:07 GMT
#6349
Insur vs Levin is only 2 hours delayed..... hopefully only 2..
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
November 17 2012 09:07 GMT
#6350
Lol Tasteless
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
November 17 2012 09:07 GMT
#6351
On November 17 2012 18:05 Sabu113 wrote:
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On November 17 2012 18:02 Flonomenalz wrote:
Oh god, now Group E is fucked. Loser has to go against HerO PvZ to advance, winner has to play Rain PvZ.

GL Idra and Stephano, lol


HerO doesn't look so scary in PvZ these days. His mass drop tactics don't seem to do enough against a well trained zerg.

Rain though...

I vaguely want Idra to beat rain. I think it would tickle me immensely. Never going to happen.

But it would tickle me.


idra gets the bad end either way where as Stephano has a chance vs Rain and is favored against HerO
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silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
November 17 2012 09:07 GMT
#6352
Log back in to see BabyKnight beat Rain. SICK!
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
November 17 2012 09:07 GMT
#6353
Ugh, these sound problems lol
I love crazymoving
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
November 17 2012 09:07 GMT
#6354
stephano should just 6p idra
rip passion
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-17 09:07:42
November 17 2012 09:07 GMT
#6355
Sun threw those games so he won't ended up in the same bracket as Parting.
Smart move Sun.

XDDDDD
Play your best
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
November 17 2012 09:07 GMT
#6356
On November 17 2012 18:05 MangoMountain wrote:
People still think zvz / pvp are coin flips? I thought we were done with this in 2011


zvz is only coinflippy in the early game, after that its mostly pure skill, pvp is coinflippy almost all the time
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
November 17 2012 09:07 GMT
#6357
On November 17 2012 18:04 WarrickHunt wrote:
Foreigners win at MLG, meh koreans are jetlagged
Foreigners win in Asia, meh matches are coin flips

at what point to we start giving credit to people for winning against koreans?



why do you pay attention to a handful of fanboys who are being shown that their korean sc2 gods are actually mortal?

most people are really impressed from what i've read.
Astro-Penguin
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
554 Posts
November 17 2012 09:07 GMT
#6358
On November 17 2012 17:55 X3GoldDot wrote:
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On November 17 2012 17:54 Astro-Penguin wrote:
On November 17 2012 17:53 MangoMountain wrote:
On November 17 2012 17:52 shabby wrote:
On November 17 2012 17:48 Astro-Penguin wrote:
That looks like 50% of my PvP losses....


You should stop fast expanding in PvP then.

Or remember to FF


Yeah its kind of amazing how blind sided people are, I don't mean to be elitist or anything but fast expand is the most solid build you can do in PvP. Missing a FF has nothing to do with how good a build is.


fast expanding most solid build my ass lol, its probably the least solid build and most greedy one at that..... you only fast expand if you scout a robo......


Fast expansions can defend every single build in the current meta game on maps where blink observer is weak, It is by no means greedy as you say. Word of advice, don't scout their base in PvP (Only scout for proxies) as the information you get from a probe scout is completely irrelevant. The extra influx of minerals you get allows you to just play blindly and in conjunction this allows you to efficiently defend both early aggression and latter tech oriented all ins.The advantage you get from fast expand basically gives you free wins/advantages vs both Phoenix/Robo macro plays.

The specific version of fast expand that Rain did is basically willing to sacrifice the nexus, the timings of his units allow him to defend any sort of gateway push that dosen't over commit on killing the nexus. In the scenario that he cannot hold the nexus he simply cancels it and has a huge advantage with quicker tech as the aggressor is committing a vast amount of his resources that only correlates into forcing a nexus cancel. (FF should prevent him from outright killing you)

Not sure what league you are in but in no scenario should you ever be able to reactively fast expand after scouting a Robo considering they should never let your probe see it to begin with.
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
November 17 2012 09:07 GMT
#6359
Fuck me sideways!Babyknight is good.
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
November 17 2012 09:07 GMT
#6360
Rotterdam poking fun at Bitter's expense a tad harsh but funny :D
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