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MrChupee
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia161 Posts
November 10 2012 06:00 GMT
#801
He didn't outeconomy a mechanised terran, so it made sense his casters didn't have the army to backup direct hits with blinding cloud
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 10 2012 06:00 GMT
#802
Swarm Hosts seems especially bad in ZvT, but decent in ZvP when using them for contains.
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
November 10 2012 06:01 GMT
#803
current widow mines seem like it adds interesting play.
GWdeathscythe
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1091 Posts
November 10 2012 06:01 GMT
#804
On November 10 2012 14:59 JSy wrote:
effort: too.. many... mines!
flash: ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ this game's not bad. (this is fun)

effort uses blinding cloud
flash: huh? what was that?


ty for the translations, sir. (=
JD is BONJWA!
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 06:09:00
November 10 2012 06:01 GMT
#805
To be fair, Effort didn't really look like he knew what he was doing. It seemed more like "let's make a few of these new guys and send them across the map" than having an actual underlying strategy.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 06:01:58
November 10 2012 06:01 GMT
#806
Last season there was only 1 zerg player in the top 25 of GM. Pretty astounding to me, especially in contrast to WoL.
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 06:02:02
November 10 2012 06:01 GMT
#807
From what D3 and HOTS have turned out, it is obvious that now Blizzard is lead by a bunch of clerks but not innovative designers. All the creative guys left. Such as the Riot guys or GW2 guys. Sigh.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
November 10 2012 06:02 GMT
#808
One caster was "Oh!"-ing a lot at the Swarm Hosts - was he suffering from that weird experience some people have with seeing such things? (like, organisms coming out of the backs of other organisms)
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-10 06:03:43
November 10 2012 06:02 GMT
#809
HotS looks so damn good now, wish they'd start mass-expanding the beta and follow Valve's suit (it only increases interest!)

On November 10 2012 15:01 larse wrote:
From what D3 and HOTS have turned out, it is obvious that now Blizzard is lead by a bunch of clerks but not innovative designers. All the creative guys left. Such as the Riot guys or GW2 guys. Sigh.

? D3 and HOTS have definitely been innovative & creative. Random bitter nerd detected?
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
November 10 2012 06:03 GMT
#810
On November 10 2012 15:00 sitromit wrote:
Every game in this invitational so far, Zergs are not just losing, but getting absolutely raped, the games aren't even remotely close.

Except for Firebathero. He is the only Zerg player to squeeze out a win.

Then again, he had the Jaedong sitting behind him yelling out orders.

Jaedongbathero? Firedong? Firedonghero?
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
November 10 2012 06:04 GMT
#811
On November 10 2012 15:01 FuRong wrote:
To be fair, Effort didn't really look like he knew what he was going. It seemed more like "let's make a few of these new guys and send them across the map" than having an actual underlying strategy.


People keep saying this. So it's for some odd reason only the Zergs 3 days in a row who have no idea what they're doing, everyone else is a HotS expert with fully developed builds?
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
November 10 2012 06:04 GMT
#812
On November 10 2012 15:01 larse wrote:
From what D3 and HOTS have turned out, it is obvious that now Blizzard is lead by a bunch of clerks but not innovative designers. All the creative guys left. Such as the Riot guys or GW2 guys. Sigh.


The SC2 and D3 teams have nothing to do with each other. And this expansion is still months away from release. Chillax.
GWdeathscythe
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1091 Posts
November 10 2012 06:05 GMT
#813
On November 10 2012 15:03 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 15:00 sitromit wrote:
Every game in this invitational so far, Zergs are not just losing, but getting absolutely raped, the games aren't even remotely close.

Except for Firebathero. He is the only Zerg player to squeeze out a win.

Then again, he had the Jaedong sitting behind him yelling out orders.

Jaedongbathero? Firedong? Firedonghero?

i like firedonghero. (=
JD is BONJWA!
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
November 10 2012 06:05 GMT
#814
On November 10 2012 15:02 Jehct wrote:
HotS looks so damn good now, wish they'd start mass-expanding the beta and follow Valve's suit (it only increases interest!)

Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 15:01 larse wrote:
From what D3 and HOTS have turned out, it is obvious that now Blizzard is lead by a bunch of clerks but not innovative designers. All the creative guys left. Such as the Riot guys or GW2 guys. Sigh.

? D3 and HOTS have definitely been innovative & creative. Random bitter nerd detected?


I would imagine after BWC we will hear a lot more about HOTS, blizzard trying to hype there own WOL event up and not releasing a lot of beta invites/info at makes sense.
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
November 10 2012 06:05 GMT
#815
On November 10 2012 15:04 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 15:01 FuRong wrote:
To be fair, Effort didn't really look like he knew what he was going. It seemed more like "let's make a few of these new guys and send them across the map" than having an actual underlying strategy.


People keep saying this. So it's for some odd reason only the Zergs 3 days in a row who have no idea what they're doing, everyone else is a HotS expert with fully developed builds?

There are a ton of people who 'figured out' terran hots mech & protoss play with the new mothership core (which is about all the protoss players are adding in). Not as much with zerg (and the units aren't as straight forward).
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
November 10 2012 06:05 GMT
#816
On November 10 2012 15:02 Jehct wrote:
HotS looks so damn good now, wish they'd start mass-expanding the beta and follow Valve's suit (it only increases interest!)

Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 15:01 larse wrote:
From what D3 and HOTS have turned out, it is obvious that now Blizzard is lead by a bunch of clerks but not innovative designers. All the creative guys left. Such as the Riot guys or GW2 guys. Sigh.

? D3 and HOTS have definitely been innovative & creative. Random bitter nerd detected?


Yeah, call me bitter nerd, I don't care. It's just I think even me can do much better jobs than them, even though 99.9% of the people won't believe.
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
November 10 2012 06:05 GMT
#817
On November 10 2012 15:04 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 15:01 FuRong wrote:
To be fair, Effort didn't really look like he knew what he was going. It seemed more like "let's make a few of these new guys and send them across the map" than having an actual underlying strategy.


People keep saying this. So it's for some odd reason only the Zergs 3 days in a row who have no idea what they're doing, everyone else is a HotS expert with fully developed builds?


The new Z units are a little less intuitive and more complex in their use than the others. Show me a Tempest or an Oracle or a Widow mine and I know at least generally what I should be doing with them straight away.
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
November 10 2012 06:06 GMT
#818
On November 10 2012 15:05 larse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 15:02 Jehct wrote:
HotS looks so damn good now, wish they'd start mass-expanding the beta and follow Valve's suit (it only increases interest!)

On November 10 2012 15:01 larse wrote:
From what D3 and HOTS have turned out, it is obvious that now Blizzard is lead by a bunch of clerks but not innovative designers. All the creative guys left. Such as the Riot guys or GW2 guys. Sigh.

? D3 and HOTS have definitely been innovative & creative. Random bitter nerd detected?


Yeah, call me bitter nerd, I don't care. It's just I think even me can do much better jobs than them, even though 99.9% of the people won't believe.

Then go do it. If you can, you're guaranteed to make millions of $. Plenty of people are waiting for something better; there's a reason no one else is doing it.
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
dragonblade369
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada464 Posts
November 10 2012 06:06 GMT
#819
On November 10 2012 15:01 larse wrote:
From what D3 and HOTS have turned out, it is obvious that now Blizzard is lead by a bunch of clerks but not innovative designers. All the creative guys left. Such as the Riot guys or GW2 guys. Sigh.


GW2.... my most disappointed game so far.. You call that innovative? I was a loyal fan of GW1, preordered GW2 the first day it's available, played all 3 betas.... now at lv10. That game excluded everything good about GW1... and added everything of conventional MMOs...
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
November 10 2012 06:07 GMT
#820
On November 10 2012 15:06 dragonblade369 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2012 15:01 larse wrote:
From what D3 and HOTS have turned out, it is obvious that now Blizzard is lead by a bunch of clerks but not innovative designers. All the creative guys left. Such as the Riot guys or GW2 guys. Sigh.


GW2.... my most disappointed game so far.. You call that innovative? I was a loyal fan of GW1, preordered GW2 the first day it's available, played all 3 betas.... now at lv10. That game excluded everything good about GW1... and added everything of conventional MMOs...

Eh, I have 250 hours in GW2 and still haven't gotten bored yet. I personally loved the game.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
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