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Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
November 11 2012 07:18 GMT
#1161
Would be awesome to see terran air be viable if someone is trying what Leenock did, banshee/tank into raven/bc.
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
November 11 2012 07:18 GMT
#1162
On November 11 2012 16:17 andaylin wrote:
is that a limited edition Diablo 3?

oh they're giving them away, i was gonna say, leenock got the worse prize lol.


Collectors edition, dunno how limited they are.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
November 11 2012 07:19 GMT
#1163
throw that into the crowd Leenock
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
November 11 2012 07:20 GMT
#1164
Also the smoke machine/confetty at the end was better than nearly every foreign tournaments closing ceremony.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 11 2012 07:20 GMT
#1165
On November 11 2012 16:20 Laryleprakon wrote:
Also the smoke machine/confetty at the end was better than nearly every foreign tournaments closing ceremony.


And this is just for showmatches, lol.
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
November 11 2012 07:21 GMT
#1166
GGs. I think not enough people watched these games given 60 pages over a 4 day event. Some very promising stuff for HotS based on them.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
November 11 2012 07:23 GMT
#1167
On November 11 2012 16:21 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
GGs. I think not enough people watched these games given 60 pages over a 4 day event. Some very promising stuff for HotS based on them.


Was more aimed at the Korean crowd, and it seemed it did well with a massive crowd there each day.

Hopefully more foreign conventions do this sorta thing in a next few months (if there is any in that time frame)

Fun event, Leenock games and the Rain v Mvp were the best imo.
johnny123
Profile Joined February 2012
521 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-11 07:30:03
November 11 2012 07:26 GMT
#1168
On November 11 2012 16:18 Laryleprakon wrote:
Would be awesome to see terran air be viable if someone is trying what Leenock did, banshee/tank into raven/bc.



terran air is definately not the answer as they would just get infestors instead if a mass amount of terran air is being assembled.

The counter to mass swarm host is Thors and siege tanks.

Just have alot of siege tanks in siege mode killing the waves, Only when you realize you can kill the wave really fast do you attempt unsiegeing and pushing forward ( all while the thors go after the swarm hosts)

terran mech has enough dps to mow threw everything. Try it in the unit tester, zerg requires ridiclous amounts of more food in hosts to compete with terran mech.

The only reason i say this, is because if retarded blizzard is looking at this, they might actually think hosts are imba because they are incompetent like that. While if you watch morrow or dragon streaming hots, they done over the period where hosts were a problem. Its manageable for terran. ( i am a terran player as well). I just dont want to see units nerfed undeservingly.

for protoss on the other hand, it seems much more difficult. I would think the air fleet is thier counter cause the colosus comes out to late to compete with mass hosts. (possibly tempests and core for detect)
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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
November 11 2012 07:27 GMT
#1169
On November 11 2012 16:21 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
GGs. I think not enough people watched these games given 60 pages over a 4 day event. Some very promising stuff for HotS based on them.


my conclusions are that new Terran units are very boring and don't seem to add that much to Terran other than maybe doing some gimicky things with Widow Mines

Protoss new units look interesting but need HotS to be released for them to get a more rigorous look and play through by pros

Zerg new units are OP with WoL Infestors, but WoL Infestors will be nerfed before HotS is released
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
CortoMontez
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia608 Posts
November 11 2012 07:29 GMT
#1170
On November 11 2012 16:26 johnny123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 16:18 Laryleprakon wrote:
Would be awesome to see terran air be viable if someone is trying what Leenock did, banshee/tank into raven/bc.



air is definately not the answer, as i mentioned before.

The counter to mass swarm host is Thors and siege tanks.

Just have alot of siege tanks in siege mode killing the waves, Only when you realize you can kill the wave really fast do you attempt unsiegeing and pushing forward ( all while the thors go after the swarm hosts)

terran mech has enough dps to mow threw everything. Try it in the unit tester, zerg requires ridiclous amounts of more food in hosts to compete with terran mech.

The only reason i say this, is because if retarded blizzard is looking at this, they might actually think hosts are imba because they are incompetent like that. While if you watch morrow or dragon streaming hots, they dont over the period where hosts were a problem. Its so ez for terran. ( i am a terran player as well)

for protoss on the other hand, it seems much more difficult. I would think the air fleet is thier counter cause the colosus comes out to late to compete with mass hosts. (possibly tempests and core for detect)

I actually think banshees will be a good answer to swarm hosts, since in a lot of TvZ nowadays banshees are used mid-game anyway to force infestors to waste energy, so using them against swarmhosts makes sense also.

Regarding protoss air, I would not be surprised if the void-ray is reworked into some sort of burst-splash unit to deal with swarm-hosts.
"Creator was doing a really good job trying to win without storm but it was like eating spaghetti with a screwdriver." -Severian
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
November 11 2012 08:49 GMT
#1171
On November 11 2012 16:26 johnny123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 16:18 Laryleprakon wrote:
Would be awesome to see terran air be viable if someone is trying what Leenock did, banshee/tank into raven/bc.



terran air is definately not the answer as they would just get infestors instead if a mass amount of terran air is being assembled.

The counter to mass swarm host is Thors and siege tanks.

Just have alot of siege tanks in siege mode killing the waves, Only when you realize you can kill the wave really fast do you attempt unsiegeing and pushing forward ( all while the thors go after the swarm hosts)

terran mech has enough dps to mow threw everything. Try it in the unit tester, zerg requires ridiclous amounts of more food in hosts to compete with terran mech.

The only reason i say this, is because if retarded blizzard is looking at this, they might actually think hosts are imba because they are incompetent like that. While if you watch morrow or dragon streaming hots, they done over the period where hosts were a problem. Its manageable for terran. ( i am a terran player as well). I just dont want to see units nerfed undeservingly.

for protoss on the other hand, it seems much more difficult. I would think the air fleet is thier counter cause the colosus comes out to late to compete with mass hosts. (possibly tempests and core for detect)


Whenever I try to unsiege and leapfrog towards the hosts I find roaches and vipers waiting, ready to kill my tanks.

A couple of banshees is definitely the better option.
snorlax1
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore233 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-11 11:33:34
November 11 2012 11:33 GMT
#1172
I saw this just upload on Youtube. the "Resume from replay" feature seems to be cool.

Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
November 11 2012 11:42 GMT
#1173
On November 11 2012 16:12 andaylin wrote:
dude swarm hosts are just a faster brood lord composition LOL.

except the locusts are even stronger ahahahaha. dem incoming nerfs.

Erg, they aren't really OP at all... All that is required is a tiny bit of multitask.Suicide a 6-8 marauder pack to kill 6 swarm hosts mid game. then roflstomp their non existent composition...
Not really imbalanced. If Leenock chooses to invest everything into them, he can very easily be punished for it.

Also, not a single banshee to combat that? Pretty silly of MKP. He just isn't used to HOTS yet.. Leenock stomped him so easily.
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mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
November 14 2012 13:55 GMT
#1174
I'm just watching this now, and as a spectator, one thing that might be nice is to have timewarp be a bit less visually distracting/opaque. In many of the PvX engagements, between the guardian shields and the timewarps, it looks like war of the domes, really hard to see what's going on.

Then again, time warp might not be used as much in "real" games as it was in these showmatches, so maybe this is a nonissue.
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vinsang1000
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium365 Posts
November 14 2012 15:50 GMT
#1175
Hello TL,

Could anybody advices me the 3/4 best video to watch from the event ?
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