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On October 30 2012 21:21 xsnac wrote:
i dont understand what roro did so special to win . turtle and defence from harras + 1 flank with roach . thats it ? all you have to do as zerg nowadays . then just push with coruptor broodlord .. damn so hard
Well he hold a 11/11 proxy rax with 3 hatch gas before pool.
XDDDD.
And he shut down Happy hellion harass pretty hard and destroy the 150 mech push.
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On October 30 2012 21:23 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2012 21:20 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I have to go to class now. Can someone LR the last series? Just tell them you can't come because of the hurricane mike
Um you mean hurricane Roro
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France12909 Posts
On October 30 2012 21:23 Lylat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2012 21:21 InoyouS2 wrote:On October 30 2012 21:18 Lylat wrote:On October 30 2012 21:13 Makro wrote:On October 30 2012 21:12 Lylat wrote:
He really needs some ravens ! ravens for what ? Seeker missiles annihilate corruptors since most zergs don't split them Ravens getting seeker missles off is a coinflip most of the time, a tiny amount of corrupters can sniper them, and infestors hard-counter them. A coinflip ? Dunno, how do you beat a BL, infestors, corruptors army without ravens then?
He didn't have the eco to make ravens.
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On October 30 2012 21:23 Lylat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2012 21:21 InoyouS2 wrote:On October 30 2012 21:18 Lylat wrote:On October 30 2012 21:13 Makro wrote:On October 30 2012 21:12 Lylat wrote:
He really needs some ravens ! ravens for what ? Seeker missiles annihilate corruptors since most zergs don't split them Ravens getting seeker missles off is a coinflip most of the time, a tiny amount of corrupters can sniper them, and infestors hard-counter them. A coinflip ? Dunno, how do you beat a BL, infestors, corruptors army without ravens then?
I though it was accepted that Broodlord-Corruptor-Infestor is in fact the best unit composition in the game?
You try to beat Zerg before he can max on that composition. But Happy did push too early, not quite the right timing.
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On October 30 2012 21:24 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2012 21:21 Fusilero wrote:On October 30 2012 21:21 xsnac wrote:
i dont understand what roro did so special to win . turtle and defence from harras + 1 flank with roach . thats it ? all you have to do as zerg nowadays . then just push with coruptor broodlord .. damn so hard When your opponent is as bad as happy you don't have to try. I guess that makes Rain who lost to Happy very very bad  .
Happy played horrible today, a push like that cross positions against that build make no sense and I will not comment on game one.
I think happy is good he's got decent TvT and he's found a way to make his TvP work but his TvZ today just made me cry.
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On October 30 2012 21:23 Lylat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2012 21:21 InoyouS2 wrote:On October 30 2012 21:18 Lylat wrote:On October 30 2012 21:13 Makro wrote:On October 30 2012 21:12 Lylat wrote:
He really needs some ravens ! ravens for what ? Seeker missiles annihilate corruptors since most zergs don't split them Ravens getting seeker missles off is a coinflip most of the time, a tiny amount of corrupters can sniper them, and infestors hard-counter them. A coinflip ? Dunno, how do you beat a BL, infestors, corruptors army without ravens then?
You don't. That's the problem.
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On October 30 2012 21:25 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2012 21:24 Poopi wrote:On October 30 2012 21:21 Fusilero wrote:On October 30 2012 21:21 xsnac wrote:
i dont understand what roro did so special to win . turtle and defence from harras + 1 flank with roach . thats it ? all you have to do as zerg nowadays . then just push with coruptor broodlord .. damn so hard When your opponent is as bad as happy you don't have to try. I guess that makes Rain who lost to Happy very very bad . Happy played horrible today, a push like that cross positions against that build make no sense and I will not comment on game one. I think happy is good he's got decent TvT and he's found a way to make his TvP work but his TvZ today just made me cry.
he used to be known for his TvZ didn't he?
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On October 30 2012 21:21 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2012 21:21 xsnac wrote:
i dont understand what roro did so special to win . turtle and defence from harras + 1 flank with roach . thats it ? all you have to do as zerg nowadays . then just push with coruptor broodlord .. damn so hard When your opponent is as bad as happy you don't have to try.
lol it's not that happy played bad in that game lol! He played pretty well, macroed ok, had a good build, took his expansions at good timings, microed his units well. The big problem is, that mech just sucks if Zerg plays correctly. Mech allways needs Zerg to screw up at some points. Of course you can try to force it through good play, but you rely on at least one blunder or overall bad play from the zerg. I think Bio is still the better style, but much harder to play correctly.
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On October 30 2012 21:17 stephenrau wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2012 21:15 Ragnarork wrote:On October 30 2012 21:14 X3GoldDot wrote:
why do tastosis think happy is a top tier terran lol.... he is barely even code S level despite being in code S for so long and making ro4 before Taking out Rain 2 - 1 is quite some Code B feat, indeed. He lacks some consistency in his three match ups... I rewatched Rain-Happy and I just remember that Rain really had winning positions in both games but just messed up.
well, you could argue that happy had good winning positions in his games too, and screwed up... that kind of argument isn't very solid, to be honest.
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On October 30 2012 21:23 Lylat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2012 21:21 InoyouS2 wrote:On October 30 2012 21:18 Lylat wrote:On October 30 2012 21:13 Makro wrote:On October 30 2012 21:12 Lylat wrote:
He really needs some ravens ! ravens for what ? Seeker missiles annihilate corruptors since most zergs don't split them Ravens getting seeker missles off is a coinflip most of the time, a tiny amount of corrupters can sniper them, and infestors hard-counter them. A coinflip ? Dunno, how do you beat a BL, infestors, corruptors army without ravens then?
Good question, maybe you should ask Blizzard.
With or without ravens, it is about luck and the zerg screwing up.
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On October 30 2012 21:26 MCDayC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2012 21:25 Fusilero wrote:On October 30 2012 21:24 Poopi wrote:On October 30 2012 21:21 Fusilero wrote:On October 30 2012 21:21 xsnac wrote:
i dont understand what roro did so special to win . turtle and defence from harras + 1 flank with roach . thats it ? all you have to do as zerg nowadays . then just push with coruptor broodlord .. damn so hard When your opponent is as bad as happy you don't have to try. I guess that makes Rain who lost to Happy very very bad . Happy played horrible today, a push like that cross positions against that build make no sense and I will not comment on game one. I think happy is good he's got decent TvT and he's found a way to make his TvP work but his TvZ today just made me cry. he used to be known for his TvZ didn't he?
Yes he used to have strangely enough mech TvZ nailed down but I dunno I get this strange feeling happy just hasn't bothered to evolve his TvZ it doesn't seem to have shifted in terms of quality since last year.
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On October 30 2012 21:25 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2012 21:24 Poopi wrote:On October 30 2012 21:21 Fusilero wrote:On October 30 2012 21:21 xsnac wrote:
i dont understand what roro did so special to win . turtle and defence from harras + 1 flank with roach . thats it ? all you have to do as zerg nowadays . then just push with coruptor broodlord .. damn so hard When your opponent is as bad as happy you don't have to try. I guess that makes Rain who lost to Happy very very bad . Happy played horrible today, a push like that cross positions against that build make no sense and I will not comment on game one. I think happy is good he's got decent TvT and he's found a way to make his TvP work but his TvZ today just made me cry.
It must be depressing playing terran in practice so you can't play well knowing it will be a TvZ.
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On October 30 2012 21:24 bgx wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2012 21:21 Lorch wrote:On October 30 2012 21:19 Ragnarork wrote:On October 30 2012 21:18 Lylat wrote:On October 30 2012 21:13 Makro wrote:On October 30 2012 21:12 Lylat wrote:
He really needs some ravens ! ravens for what ? Seeker missiles annihilate corruptors since most zergs don't split them Please check the range of seeker and fungal. It works if the Z doesn't pay attention. Lets not start that discussion, Major recently killed 102 supply in under 5 seconds vs Roro in MvP using HSM, Kas and especially MVP ripped zergs apart with it at IEM. Ravens are viable vs broodlords/festor/corrupter they just suck really badly if zerg tech switches. Your arguments are not definitive. Lets not start discussion is pretty ballsy on your part.
What the fact that it works doesn't prove it's viable? Or the fact that I don't want another LR thread to turn into terrans arguing why there own units are bad?
Compared to how protoss beats gglord/festor I'd hardly consider ravens a coin flip...
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PDD is good against corruptors
HSM is good against broodlords
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On October 30 2012 21:21 Lorch wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2012 21:19 Ragnarork wrote:On October 30 2012 21:18 Lylat wrote:On October 30 2012 21:13 Makro wrote:On October 30 2012 21:12 Lylat wrote:
He really needs some ravens ! ravens for what ? Seeker missiles annihilate corruptors since most zergs don't split them Please check the range of seeker and fungal. It works if the Z doesn't pay attention. Lets not start that discussion, Major recently killed 102 supply in under 5 seconds vs Roro in MvP using HSM, Kas and especially MVP ripped zergs apart with it at IEM. Ravens are viable vs broodlords/festor/corrupter they just suck really badly if zerg tech switches.
You are really going to argue based on a handful of terrans (you mentioned 2, I think ThorZaIN did it, but against bad zergs), one of them being Mvp ? It actually argue against... I wonder why we don't see every Code S terran do this... Maybe they didn't hear the advice given in LR threads...
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On October 30 2012 21:28 Samhax wrote:
PDD is good against corruptors
HSM is good against broodlords
Thing is you can't really do both :p
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Sounds like a white guy doing a racist-stereotype asian sounding voice when they introduce Roro.
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