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Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
October 27 2012 10:06 GMT
#1281
On October 27 2012 19:03 marriottvn wrote:
moletrap seriously destroyed the game. he yelling like never yell before. damn!


Moletrap did an amazing job this game I think. He and Doa missed basically nothing and getting excited isn't bad for a caster. He is also not faking it, he really is excited. I loved him this game.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
October 27 2012 10:06 GMT
#1282
On October 27 2012 19:04 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 19:02 Teoita wrote:
On October 27 2012 19:00 YyapSsap wrote:
Btw to all P players, would carriers helped out in this scenario since there was like 4 corrupters?


Yes but none knows how to transition in to them or how to fully use them yet. That's the big problem with lategame PvZ right now.


Yeah zerg doesn't really have a choice in playing brood lord infestor in the late-game either that or they just lose lol
The only other options for zerg are to:
all-in
end it in the mid game with muta ling
or do max roaches


Oh yeha i agree. I was talking from a p strategy point of view.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
TimeFlighT
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia257 Posts
October 27 2012 10:06 GMT
#1283
On October 27 2012 19:05 eleaf wrote:
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On October 27 2012 19:00 Kommander wrote:
Liquid'Sea knows what's up



LOL foreign Terrans have been complain this for almost a year now the whole community finally realize bl+infestors are OP?
This is actually so sad for the foreign Terran pros, their number and voice are too small to hear.



Sorry but Liquid`Sea is a Korean Terran.
31415926535
Profile Joined May 2012
Switzerland276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-27 10:07:30
October 27 2012 10:06 GMT
#1284
On October 27 2012 19:04 xN.07)MaK wrote:
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On October 27 2012 18:59 bo1b wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks that both sides of the matchup are fucking stupid? Warping in like 20 zealots and some dts into the main to me is as retarded as infestors...


Things that shouldn't happen in sc2 (IMO):

- To be able to warp in 40+ supply into opponents base, it's like a doom drop but without possible punishment (like intercepting it)
- Archon toilet to kill a whole army with couple of archons and a mothership, it just doesn't feel right.
- Camp 20 minutes on spine+infestor+BL. Fungaling the Mothership = win.

Each side has its 'broken' strats, so after 20 minutes, the only thing remaining is to see who pulls it off first. Weird mu.

That's a pretty good summary. It seems it all comes down to the "terrible terrible damage" piece of shit ideology. This is really sad.
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
October 27 2012 10:06 GMT
#1285
On October 27 2012 19:05 firehand101 wrote:
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On October 27 2012 19:04 xsnac wrote:
On October 27 2012 19:01 Dodgin wrote:
On October 27 2012 19:00 Oboeman wrote:
why was there only one vortex?


he used 2 on accident because of the FPS lag

unacceptable to have such shitty computers for a OSL finals...



are you seriously ? jeeeezzz ARE YOU SERIOUSLY OSL ??

wow....if this is true then that sucks shit


i don't understand how this thread has 15 pages of ZvP whining and only one guy saw the double vortex?

wake up dudes, wtf happened
rw_Wedge
Profile Joined October 2012
United States53 Posts
October 27 2012 10:07 GMT
#1286
Really, I understand that BL/Infestor is really good (I play Terran) but in that game Rain had all the time in the world to get his composition into a position to deal with DRG and he just didn't do it. I think Infestors need a nerf, but the last game was not really an example of why. Here's to hoping Boxer can straighten Rain out for the rest of the series.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-27 10:07:52
October 27 2012 10:07 GMT
#1287
Hopefully we get a mutalisk game now ;o

less complaints and more fun to watch

DRG has also been known to bring out the ultras from time to time
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
October 27 2012 10:07 GMT
#1288
Wow, terrible that Rain accidentally casted 2 vortexes at the same spot because of lag... Definitely cost him the game.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
October 27 2012 10:07 GMT
#1289
On October 27 2012 19:06 Fenrax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 19:03 marriottvn wrote:
moletrap seriously destroyed the game. he yelling like never yell before. damn!


Moletrap did an amazing job this game I think. He and Doa missed basically nothing and getting excited isn't bad for a caster. He is also not faking it, he really is excited. I loved him this game.

Couldnt agree more. People get mad at the yelling, it was justified that game imo.
#TheOneTrueDong
dragonblade369
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada464 Posts
October 27 2012 10:07 GMT
#1290
On October 27 2012 19:03 EnderCraft wrote:
Whatever happened to the concept of crippling a Zerg's economy. Stargate expand builds are just too weak IMO. Anything that allows the zerg to just drone up to 70 uncontested seems to silly to me.

Edit: Not talking about all-ins btw.


Oh and btw, Zerg can build Spore without evo in HoTs now
Nabes
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1800 Posts
October 27 2012 10:07 GMT
#1291
On October 27 2012 19:05 Kouda wrote:
OH MAN. BALANCE BITCHING IN LR.

Feels good to watch something live.


It isn't balance whine, its just stale to watch zerg turtle while rain is trying to break his defense for 30 mins.
Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
October 27 2012 10:07 GMT
#1292
On October 27 2012 19:06 saiyogo wrote:
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On October 27 2012 19:04 covetousrat wrote:
Wonwonwon or die trying. Learn from master Parting.


Not enough soul. He won't succeed.


He can try:

FusioN.Strider
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany131 Posts
October 27 2012 10:07 GMT
#1293
Mhm, what about HTs in warp prisms that are being dropped during the fight to instantaneously feedback and kill the whole infestor army?
It would require a shit ton of micro, but it sure as hell would be awesome to see.
MISTAKE!
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
October 27 2012 10:07 GMT
#1294
On October 27 2012 19:04 glzElectromaster wrote:
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On October 27 2012 19:02 Sabu113 wrote:
On October 27 2012 18:59 Lazzi wrote:
On October 27 2012 18:56 Supah wrote:
Well, honestly, DRG could have won army to army a long time ago, but was a bit overwhelmed with all the harass. When the engagement actually happened, it wasn't too surprising on who would actually win that fight. Rain could have had that, it was 2 bases to 1.. surprisingly not patient enough.

Not patient enough? Are you kidding?


Why did he try attacking that center base? Arguably that started the cascade when he needed more shit to hold his mining bases.

Arguably.

I don't know how you deal with all those infestors. Speed prism magic carpetting templar to feedback en masse?


That magic carpetting HTs just reminded me of JangBang vs NaDa on..Andromeda? Destination? I forget which map. The one JB carpet stormed all the tanks. Mass siege tanks can kind of be alluded to mass infestors...minus the mobility.

It was Othello in one of the earlier proleague matches that round of that PL season.
Hello
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
October 27 2012 10:07 GMT
#1295
Stop suggesting carriers against that composition...it's the worst suggestion...if you don't believe me...watch Creator vs. Curious on Cloud Kingdom LE...I think it was WCS Asia and see how Carriers do against broodlord/infestor
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
October 27 2012 10:07 GMT
#1296
On October 27 2012 19:05 eleaf wrote:
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On October 27 2012 19:00 Kommander wrote:
Liquid'Sea knows what's up

https://twitter.com/LiquidSea/status/262131067350310912


LOL foreign Terrans have been complain this for almost a year now the whole community finally realize bl+infestors are OP?
This is actually so sad for the foreign Terran pros, their number and voice are too small to hear.


every korean t/p thinks z is imba atm @_@
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
October 27 2012 10:07 GMT
#1297
plays a 50 minute game, fails to utalize a vortex to its full potential within a 20s timeframe, loses game. looks legit.
(not balance whining, just hating on how a 50 minute game can be decided within seconds)
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-27 10:08:28
October 27 2012 10:07 GMT
#1298
On October 27 2012 19:03 firehand101 wrote:
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On October 27 2012 19:00 -Kyo- wrote:
On October 27 2012 18:57 firehand101 wrote:
On October 27 2012 18:56 -Kyo- wrote:
This game is such a joke. Literally, DRG got out played so hardcore. The only rationalization for why he won is because of race. Took 30 minutes of no direct attacks from Rain for him to lose because he can't do anything. I don't even understand what he could have done. So dumb.

dude can you put this in a balance thread rather than a LR thread?


I'm not sitting here giving suggestions for balance. I talking about the game we just saw. You're watching the same game I am right now, and you can tell that was kind of silly right? >.> We all just sat here for 45 minutes watching it ... Unless somehow you accrued 2.5k posts and can't understand the game that was just played in front of everyone I don't know what else to say. It was silly, nothing more @_@;;


It wasnt silly at all, it was beautiful to watch


If you have absolutely no understanding of the game, or have never encountered this situation yourself; then yes, I totally agree with you.

Regardless, hopefully Rain decides to step it up and just abuse protoss just like DRG abuses BL/Infestor. Inc 2 base timing >.>!
Anime is cuter than you. Legacy of the Void GM Protoss Gameplay: twitch.tv/kyo7763 youtube.com/user/KyoStarcraft/
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CaptainPlatypus
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States852 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-27 10:08:28
October 27 2012 10:07 GMT
#1299
On October 27 2012 19:04 FusioN.Strider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2012 19:03 CaptainPlatypus wrote:
I shouldn't still be surprised to see this much balance whine in a LR thread.

But I am.


Is it always this bad? =(

Not always, but way too much. And about all three races. I think a big part of the problem is that people get married to the idea of certain players being stronger than others and then assume what they're seeing is bearing out their assumptions. Everyone 'knew' going into this game that Bison was better than DRG (which is silly, IMHO), and so when DRG wins a macro game, it must be imbalance. As other people have stated more clearly, it was much more about Bison committing to a questionable strategy and it not paying off no matter how brilliantly he played it than anything balance-related.

Edit: Also, of course, the vortex thing.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 27 2012 10:08 GMT
#1300
If rain did that double vortex due to lag then that's a serious issue you can't let that kind of issue happen in the grand finals.
Glorious SEA doto
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