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On October 22 2012 05:08 TigerKarl wrote:
brutally lackluster tournament in terms of quality gameplay. Sad for Dreamhack. Also the guy commentating with Apollo was a bad choice. He's professional and well-spoken and all, but just really really boring.
Yea that's how I feel about the quality of games. This DH felt very underwhelming mainly because it didn't have players like Stephano, Grubby, MC, etc.
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On October 22 2012 05:08 TigerKarl wrote:
brutally lackluster tournament in terms of quality gameplay. Sad for Dreamhack. Also the guy commentating with Apollo was a bad choice. He's professional and well-spoken and all, but just really really boring.
i liked him. he was analytical und Not overhyping the stuff. i would like to see im more. but only my oppinion.
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On October 22 2012 05:12 SarcasmMonster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 05:10 LittLeD wrote:On October 22 2012 05:03 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Do the Dota2 and LOL pros have trouble with awkwardness, or is it just a SC2 thing? I know for sure it's not just a SC2 thing. Watching the finals of some LoL tournament couple of weeks ago, I remember the award ceremony being awfully awkward (Gaben was handling out the prize to a Chinese team). Why would Gaben be at a Lol tournament?
Well Riot is a very influential company, I don't think it's that far-fetched that they managed to get the One True Gaben hand out the trophy for them.
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On October 22 2012 05:12 SarcasmMonster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 05:10 LittLeD wrote:On October 22 2012 05:03 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Do the Dota2 and LOL pros have trouble with awkwardness, or is it just a SC2 thing? I know for sure it's not just a SC2 thing. Watching the finals of some LoL tournament couple of weeks ago, I remember the award ceremony being awfully awkward (Gaben was handling out the prize to a Chinese team). Why would Gaben be at a Lol tournament?
They obviously bought him, like that Blizzard WCS guy.
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I see. I never trusted Gaben. He's Darth Vader of esports.
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On October 22 2012 05:03 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 05:03 Avicularia wrote:
Nerchio is from Poland, he doesn't waste alcohol :p win right here :D
yea, especially that he's an abstainer
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On October 22 2012 05:14 Zane wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 05:12 SarcasmMonster wrote:On October 22 2012 05:10 LittLeD wrote:On October 22 2012 05:03 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Do the Dota2 and LOL pros have trouble with awkwardness, or is it just a SC2 thing? I know for sure it's not just a SC2 thing. Watching the finals of some LoL tournament couple of weeks ago, I remember the award ceremony being awfully awkward (Gaben was handling out the prize to a Chinese team). Why would Gaben be at a Lol tournament? Well Riot is a very influential company, I don't think it's that far-fetched that they managed to get the One True Gaben hand out the trophy for them.
Tenecent is rolling in the cash dood.
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On October 22 2012 05:13 Xoronius wrote:
Congratz to Nerchio, with his win poland now surpasses Canada in the "premier-tournament-medalists"-statistic and is now 4th behind SK, Sweden and Stephano.
How is that a premier tournament?
The player pool in 2GD tourney was so much better...LSC was also better,hell even IPL5 qualifiers(which gave 10k$ to the winner) should be a premier tournament, right?
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And so the post tournament emptiness hits again. What to do? So awkward.
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On October 22 2012 05:20 Rhaegar_tar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 05:13 Xoronius wrote:
Congratz to Nerchio, with his win poland now surpasses Canada in the "premier-tournament-medalists"-statistic and is now 4th behind SK, Sweden and Stephano. How is that a premier tournament? The player pool in 2GD tourney was so much better...LSC was also better,hell even IPL5 qualifiers(which gave 10k$ to the winner) should be a premier tournament, right?
Dreamhack Opens count as premier tournaments, it´s not their fault, that koreans did´nt sign up. 2GD-tourney was an invitational, AFAIK those mostly do not count. Also the player pool was not much better, MaNa, TLO, NE and elfi returned and Lucifronn/Ret/Kas/ThorZaiN is not much better than Nerchio/STC/Bly/Fraer for example.
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On October 22 2012 05:30 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 05:20 Rhaegar_tar wrote:On October 22 2012 05:13 Xoronius wrote:
Congratz to Nerchio, with his win poland now surpasses Canada in the "premier-tournament-medalists"-statistic and is now 4th behind SK, Sweden and Stephano. How is that a premier tournament? The player pool in 2GD tourney was so much better...LSC was also better,hell even IPL5 qualifiers(which gave 10k$ to the winner) should be a premier tournament, right? Dreamhack Opens count as premier tournaments, it´s not their fault, that koreans did´nt sign up. 2GD-tourney was an invitational, AFAIK those mostly do not count. Also the player pool was not much better, MaNa, TLO, NE and elfi returned and Lucifronn/Ret/Kas/ThorZaiN is not much better than Nerchio/STC/Bly/Fraer for example.
The main point is Nerchio didn't have to play 1 Korean to get this win = not really much of a premier tournament win imo.
Gratz to Nerchio and all but it was probably one of the easiest premier tourny line ups in a long, long time.
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On October 22 2012 05:36 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 05:30 Xoronius wrote:On October 22 2012 05:20 Rhaegar_tar wrote:On October 22 2012 05:13 Xoronius wrote:
Congratz to Nerchio, with his win poland now surpasses Canada in the "premier-tournament-medalists"-statistic and is now 4th behind SK, Sweden and Stephano. How is that a premier tournament? The player pool in 2GD tourney was so much better...LSC was also better,hell even IPL5 qualifiers(which gave 10k$ to the winner) should be a premier tournament, right? Dreamhack Opens count as premier tournaments, it´s not their fault, that koreans did´nt sign up. 2GD-tourney was an invitational, AFAIK those mostly do not count. Also the player pool was not much better, MaNa, TLO, NE and elfi returned and Lucifronn/Ret/Kas/ThorZaiN is not much better than Nerchio/STC/Bly/Fraer for example. The main point is Nerchio didn't have to play 1 Korean to get this win = not really much of a premier tournament win imo. Gratz to Nerchio and all but it was probably one of the easiest premier tourny line ups in a long, long time.
Because the koreans got knocked out by other players who then got beaten by Nerchio?... "The winner didn't face any koreans, therefor not a premier tournament win" is a retarded thing to say, imo.
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On October 22 2012 05:44 Zheryn wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 05:36 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On October 22 2012 05:30 Xoronius wrote:On October 22 2012 05:20 Rhaegar_tar wrote:On October 22 2012 05:13 Xoronius wrote:
Congratz to Nerchio, with his win poland now surpasses Canada in the "premier-tournament-medalists"-statistic and is now 4th behind SK, Sweden and Stephano. How is that a premier tournament? The player pool in 2GD tourney was so much better...LSC was also better,hell even IPL5 qualifiers(which gave 10k$ to the winner) should be a premier tournament, right? Dreamhack Opens count as premier tournaments, it´s not their fault, that koreans did´nt sign up. 2GD-tourney was an invitational, AFAIK those mostly do not count. Also the player pool was not much better, MaNa, TLO, NE and elfi returned and Lucifronn/Ret/Kas/ThorZaiN is not much better than Nerchio/STC/Bly/Fraer for example. The main point is Nerchio didn't have to play 1 Korean to get this win = not really much of a premier tournament win imo. Gratz to Nerchio and all but it was probably one of the easiest premier tourny line ups in a long, long time. Because the koreans got knocked out by other players who then got beaten by Nerchio?... "The winner didn't face any koreans, therefor not a premier tournament win" is a retarded thing to say, imo.
Sage, stc and rain are hardly big guns in korea anyway. His point is that no top korean played, and that's it.
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Well obviously no tournament can be considered a premiere one if Koreans got beaten, its only premiere if Koreans own, dont You know this guys?
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On October 22 2012 05:52 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 05:44 Zheryn wrote:On October 22 2012 05:36 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On October 22 2012 05:30 Xoronius wrote:On October 22 2012 05:20 Rhaegar_tar wrote:On October 22 2012 05:13 Xoronius wrote:
Congratz to Nerchio, with his win poland now surpasses Canada in the "premier-tournament-medalists"-statistic and is now 4th behind SK, Sweden and Stephano. How is that a premier tournament? The player pool in 2GD tourney was so much better...LSC was also better,hell even IPL5 qualifiers(which gave 10k$ to the winner) should be a premier tournament, right? Dreamhack Opens count as premier tournaments, it´s not their fault, that koreans did´nt sign up. 2GD-tourney was an invitational, AFAIK those mostly do not count. Also the player pool was not much better, MaNa, TLO, NE and elfi returned and Lucifronn/Ret/Kas/ThorZaiN is not much better than Nerchio/STC/Bly/Fraer for example. The main point is Nerchio didn't have to play 1 Korean to get this win = not really much of a premier tournament win imo. Gratz to Nerchio and all but it was probably one of the easiest premier tourny line ups in a long, long time. Because the koreans got knocked out by other players who then got beaten by Nerchio?... "The winner didn't face any koreans, therefor not a premier tournament win" is a retarded thing to say, imo. Sage, stc and rain are hardly big guns in korea anyway. His point is that no top korean played, and that's it.
It was missing a lot of top tier foreigners as well; Stephano, Naniwa, Thorzain etc.
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On October 22 2012 05:44 Zheryn wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 05:36 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On October 22 2012 05:30 Xoronius wrote:On October 22 2012 05:20 Rhaegar_tar wrote:On October 22 2012 05:13 Xoronius wrote:
Congratz to Nerchio, with his win poland now surpasses Canada in the "premier-tournament-medalists"-statistic and is now 4th behind SK, Sweden and Stephano. How is that a premier tournament? The player pool in 2GD tourney was so much better...LSC was also better,hell even IPL5 qualifiers(which gave 10k$ to the winner) should be a premier tournament, right? Dreamhack Opens count as premier tournaments, it´s not their fault, that koreans did´nt sign up. 2GD-tourney was an invitational, AFAIK those mostly do not count. Also the player pool was not much better, MaNa, TLO, NE and elfi returned and Lucifronn/Ret/Kas/ThorZaiN is not much better than Nerchio/STC/Bly/Fraer for example. The main point is Nerchio didn't have to play 1 Korean to get this win = not really much of a premier tournament win imo. Gratz to Nerchio and all but it was probably one of the easiest premier tourny line ups in a long, long time. Because the koreans got knocked out by other players who then got beaten by Nerchio?... "The winner didn't face any koreans, therefor not a premier tournament win" is a retarded thing to say, imo.
am i missing something or are you all complaining about a completely irrelevant semantic that is used on the TL site and has no barring on the tournament ?
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It's simple. Lot of people here are angry because Nerchio is "pretty good". So they just write some cool stories only to try to downscale his achievements. Haters 
The fact is Dreamhack is a major tournament and winning title means a lot.
gw Nerka!
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On October 22 2012 05:02 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 05:02 KalWarkov wrote:
when i see dreamhack events, i think to myself how much MLG did wrong this year lol Too bad MLG will always have the better line up to dreamhack because Koreans prefer it.
Well i bet you that if DH would have paid seeds like MLG you would see a lot more Koreans at DH events. Dont think it has much to do with preference.
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What I can tell you, seeing the event live was probably a lot more fun than seeing the stream. The games were fun and the atmosphere was amazing.
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