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D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
October 21 2012 17:57 GMT
#2221
That crazy 2GD.
why even
Whynaut
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada367 Posts
October 21 2012 17:57 GMT
#2222
On October 22 2012 02:46 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 02:43 Whynaut wrote:
Well Mana went for a dt/wp counter-play that - can - work if the Zerg messes up. It's one of those things that works against worse opponents, so I can see it working well on ladder for Mana. But really Bly won that game by spreading his overlords around the map, as could have any Zerg.


Bly hunted for those dt's alot better then most zergs, he got ahead with all that gas Mana lost in dt's, to simply say any zerg could do that is being rather unfair, Bly played that out very well and had the game won from there.



I didn't mean to discredit Bly, rather I wanted to point out that Mana based his play on his opponent messing up, which is always a huge temptation for a player, especially when Mana would've been fairly behind had he just attempted to passively take a 3rd.


MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
October 21 2012 17:58 GMT
#2223
The viewership numbers are quite bad.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
October 21 2012 17:58 GMT
#2224
Ye Redeye got off quite easy. /disappoint
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
October 21 2012 17:59 GMT
#2225
Just tuned in and realized again how much I love Redeye.
Off-season = best season
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
October 21 2012 17:59 GMT
#2226
~33k for a SC 2 tournament isn't bad.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
October 21 2012 17:59 GMT
#2227
That bm handshake.
Bliznako
Profile Joined November 2010
Serbia165 Posts
October 21 2012 17:59 GMT
#2228
On October 22 2012 02:58 MuseMike wrote:
The viewership numbers are quite bad.


28k viewers just on one stream is pretty decent, considering there are no big shots on this tournament...
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
October 21 2012 18:00 GMT
#2229
On October 22 2012 02:58 MuseMike wrote:
The viewership numbers are quite bad.

The quality of some posts here is quite bad too.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
October 21 2012 18:01 GMT
#2230
On October 22 2012 02:59 Azarkon wrote:
~33k for a SC 2 tournament isn't bad.

Sc2 community totally in whining mode now lol.
Off-season = best season
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
October 21 2012 18:01 GMT
#2231
On October 22 2012 02:57 Benjamin99 wrote:
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On October 22 2012 02:51 GaliX wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:41 Oboeman wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:39 Teoita wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:38 Oboeman wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:36 Megabuster123 wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:32 Asmodeusx wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:32 CruelZeratul wrote:
Mana is pretty dead without having done a real mistake. Have to play pretty on stop against those Mutas.



This is so dumb, and painfull to watch. The game ended at 10 min mark, because of blind muta rush vs no stargate play.
Rush muta, don't make roach warren, don't make lings, don't make spines...

He took a big risk and it paid off..>_>


mana took a risk too.
he didn't build 4 cannons this game, despite having even LESS information. On Cloud kingdom, bly hid drones from a probe. On daybreak, mana never even got into the natural to check if there were drones or not. 2 base all in would kill him.


Eh you can kinda hold with 2 cannons and chronoed sentries. Problem with that is your tech is delayed and you scout Z sooo late, just like in this last game.

Z should open fast gas more, even if they just go into a macro game. Sooo annoying to play against.


I saw the second cannon, but was he chronoing sentries? I'm not convinced that 2 cannons is enough, especially when you have only one gateway.


Blys style looks super strong. If other zerg adopt this style Protoss will face even harder times very soon.

you just can maybe scout the gas and no 3rd.
I know how Mana felt in these games.

if he would not have build the canons he would have bit into his ass if the all in comes. while Bly sees the canons and go macro, knowing is far ahead... so sad.
fraer faced the same problem against bly, he was just a worse player then Mana is


This style is nothing new. Sleep has used this style for a very long time.


Don't even try to argue this point. Roach timings ZvP were invented by Stephano, turtling to 200/200 Infestor Broodlord is Dimaga's style, and Naniwa invented the Gateway expand PvZ.
leandroqm
Profile Joined June 2008
Netherlands874 Posts
October 21 2012 18:01 GMT
#2232
Hello Sweeden! I miss there
What are you tinkering about?
MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
October 21 2012 18:02 GMT
#2233
On October 22 2012 03:00 grs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 02:58 MuseMike wrote:
The viewership numbers are quite bad.

The quality of some posts here is quite bad too.

Getting defensive over the truth that 28k viewers for a prize pool this large is quite disappointing?
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
October 21 2012 18:02 GMT
#2234
On October 22 2012 03:01 leandroqm wrote:
Hello Sweeden! I miss there

Don't worry, DH Winter will be a total blast. I think it can top WCS Europe
EZ4ENCE
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
October 21 2012 18:04 GMT
#2235
On October 22 2012 03:02 MuseMike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 03:00 grs wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:58 MuseMike wrote:
The viewership numbers are quite bad.

The quality of some posts here is quite bad too.

Getting defensive over the truth that 28k viewers for a prize pool this large is quite disappointing?

I am not defensive, since I don't have anything to defend. 30k vievers is quite the normal number for some time. You just make things up out of thin air, because of the recent complaining trend, so you won't feel that alone in your cellar.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
October 21 2012 18:04 GMT
#2236
Nerchio dropped 4 maps during the tournament and lost one series (a ZvP against fraer). Starnan dropped 8 maps and lost two series (two PvZs against SortOf and Targa).
leandroqm
Profile Joined June 2008
Netherlands874 Posts
October 21 2012 18:04 GMT
#2237
On October 22 2012 03:02 WindWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 03:01 leandroqm wrote:
Hello Sweeden! I miss there

Don't worry, DH Winter will be a total blast. I think it can top WCS Europe


I meant I miss being on Sweeden!! :D
What are you tinkering about?
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
October 21 2012 18:04 GMT
#2238
On October 22 2012 02:59 Azarkon wrote:
~33k for a SC 2 tournament isn't bad.


Yes it is. DH usually gets at least twice this. Imo it's because there aren't many (any?) star players in it.
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
MWY
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany284 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-21 18:06:00
October 21 2012 18:04 GMT
#2239
On October 22 2012 02:56 Wayne123 wrote:
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On October 22 2012 02:49 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:46 KalWarkov wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:43 Wayne123 wrote:
On October 22 2012 02:38 MWY wrote:
cool undeserved win.


The winner of a game always deserves it as long as there´s no cheating involved. Don´t blame the winner because someone lost. If you lose, it´s 100% your own fault and nothing else.


that would be the case in a perfectly balanced game. thats all i say about PvZ lategame


They went 1-1 lategame so it's ok. Third was domination so I don't see anything "undeserved" (at MWY) with it.


Even if something might be imbalanced, it´s not impossible for you to win. You just need a lot more skill then your enemy in these kind of situations. If you can´t do that, it´s still your fault. The player is responsible for their result, not the game or anyone else.

To my mind, blaming someone else for your losses is simply a horrible mindset because it stops your progress of improving. First of all, you need to look at what you did wrong and fix that. That´s what you have influence on. Blizzard won´t change the game for you and your enemy won´t stop to abuse certain things because he/she wants to win.


Yep but the gap is far too great. As P you have to play far better than the Z, as T you have to play far better than the P. (Talking bout mid to lategame ofc). And thats just fucking sad. I didn't even say that it was bly's fault, he seems like a really nice guy, still it is undeserved. And it can't be your fault if your only able to play 50% better than your opponent instead of a 100%, therefore losing.
Thats the games fault.
scoww
Profile Joined June 2012
595 Posts
October 21 2012 18:05 GMT
#2240
On October 22 2012 03:02 WindWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 03:01 leandroqm wrote:
Hello Sweeden! I miss there

Don't worry, DH Winter will be a total blast. I think it can top WCS Europe

thats aiming pretty high :o but i wont complain if it does :x
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