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Blackrobe
United States806 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + MC just tweeted: "sorry my fans i'm in MLG MVP unearned lose 2time.. T_T against Flash , effort :D i need fast wake up... "oops! | ||
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Apom
France656 Posts
On October 13 2012 17:12 redc wrote: ... In EU (with Ret and Socke) and only 2 playoff spots it might be more that way, but a 50% win rate from Ret would have him on 13 wins and still in contention for a spot. Needing a 35% win rate to make the playoffs in a PPV event and forfeiting instead is <self censored>. While I entirely agree on the NA side of things, I fear you vastly overestimate Ret if you believe he ever had a chance in this. It's been between Naniwa, Grubby and Thorzain from the beginning. | ||
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redc
Australia81 Posts
On October 13 2012 20:59 Apom wrote: While I entirely agree on the NA side of things, I fear you vastly overestimate Ret if you believe he ever had a chance in this. It's been between Naniwa, Grubby and Thorzain from the beginning. I don't overestimate Ret but I was intentionally trying to avoid predicting what would have happened. I'm just amazed that paid progamers enter an event and only show up to roughly half their games, and had they won 50% of their forfeited games they would be in contention. So far zero KESPA players have missed a match. What's the relevant sporting quote? Wayne Gretzky: You miss 100% of the shots you never take | ||
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Diizzy
United States828 Posts
On October 13 2012 14:36 chiasmus wrote: + Show Spoiler + On October 13 2012 14:30 Baroninthetree wrote: No offense, but you clearly dont know how to make a compare. This tournament is divided into 2 group, the KeSP player only played with the other 12 NA EU and GSL player, they dont played each other. While the NA EU and GSL player only played with the 12 KeSP players. So Naniwa's 19-17 at least means he is better than half of the KeSP player. MC's 18-18 means he is as good as half of the KeSP player. Definitely not as what you concluded that MC is worst is Jaehoon. If you put Rain in the NA EU part, his record won't be 31-5, but most likely 25-10 sth, simply becoz this half group is much harder. On the other hand, if you put MC in the KeSP part, his record will most likely be 22-12 sth or even better since he will only need to play all the NA player. I hope most of you will understand the simple fact that this MLG players' results are not as bad as it looks. It just means KeSP as a whole is better than NA EU, but hard to judge the level of individual player Also note, as I said in my last post, that there have now been 32 set forfeits (or 64 game forfeits). All were forfeited by the non-KeSPA side, meaning that the KeSPA standings now include 64 walkover wins. meaning the other side is unprofessional | ||
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
32 sets? What the hell? 64 games? That is a lot of content gone. Now i feel bad for those people who actually paid for the ticket for this MLG. * Sigh * MLG. Why is there so many forfeits btw? | ||
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
- Ret might not care that much because as stated above it is between Grubby, Thorzain and Naniwa in in EU. That makes 9/32. - Likewise the same with Socke. So that is 3 more, 12 out of 32. - Then there are Naniwa, Select and Major who only missed 5 combined which can happen, maybe for overlapsing schedule or also simple oversleeping like MC. 17/32 - But for IdrA and Sheth, who together missed the other 15 sets, I have no clue. In the ridiculous NA bracket both would have had a decent chance. All it would take for them atm to get a 1v1 for the seed is a 8-28 record. That is always doable. Not so bright on SC2 system, do they already have a seed in MLG Fall Championship or is there any other reason why they wouldn't care? This seems like a freeroll, with great odds at that. | ||
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Fjodorov
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vinsang1000
Belgium365 Posts
Shame on this players... | ||
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raf3776
United States1904 Posts
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Dundron2000
Sweden1140 Posts
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On October 14 2012 00:20 Fenrax wrote: - MC overslept so that is 2 out of 32 - Ret might not care that much because as stated above it is between Grubby, Thorzain and Naniwa in in EU. That makes 9/32. - Likewise the same with Socke. So that is 3 more, 12 out of 32. - Then there are Naniwa, Select and Major who only missed 5 combined which can happen, maybe for overlapsing schedule or also simple oversleeping like MC. 17/32 - But for IdrA and Sheth, who together missed the other 15 sets, I have no clue. In the ridiculous NA bracket both would have had a decent chance. All it would take for them atm to get a 1v1 for the seed is a 8-28 record. That is always doable. Not so bright on SC2 system, do they already have a seed in MLG Fall Championship or is there any other reason why they wouldn't care? This seems like a freeroll, with great odds at that. IdrA explained the whole situation fairly well on ItG this week. It's a huge combination of the Winner-Takes-All format, the fact that you have to schedule around ~4 matches every week, the cross server lag that trends toward the non-native server player cheesing, things like players showing up late despite walkover rules (which makes scheduling even worse). Essentially, most players were in this tournament for the novelty of facing Kespa players...and then found out they couldn't even do that properly. | ||
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Maghetti
United States2429 Posts
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On October 14 2012 10:43 WolfintheSheep wrote: IdrA explained the whole situation fairly well on ItG this week. It's a huge combination of the Winner-Takes-All format, the fact that you have to schedule around ~4 matches every week, the cross server lag that trends toward the non-native server player cheesing, things like players showing up late despite walkover rules (which makes scheduling even worse). Essentially, most players were in this tournament for the novelty of facing Kespa players...and then found out they couldn't even do that properly. Only the walkover rules are a valid complain. Everything else was known before that tournament started so they could have decline if they didn't like the conditions. | ||
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Creager
Germany1923 Posts
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On October 14 2012 10:43 WolfintheSheep wrote: IdrA explained the whole situation fairly well on ItG this week. It's a huge combination of the Winner-Takes-All format, the fact that you have to schedule around ~4 matches every week, the cross server lag that trends toward the non-native server player cheesing, things like players showing up late despite walkover rules (which makes scheduling even worse). Essentially, most players were in this tournament for the novelty of facing Kespa players...and then found out they couldn't even do that properly. Yeah, all those things they couldn't possibly know before accepting to play the tournament. | ||
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JJH777
United States4415 Posts
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On October 14 2012 11:38 MrCon wrote: Yeah, all those things they couldn't possibly know before accepting to play the tournament. Also mentioned on ItG...the entire format and setup for the tournament were completely unknown to the players, and were announced well after the players had accepted (I think format and prize pool were only a week before the start?). They had an opportunity to drop out, but at that point most were already planning on playing. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45343 Posts
On October 14 2012 12:57 WolfintheSheep wrote: Also mentioned on ItG...the entire format and setup for the tournament were completely unknown to the players, and were announced well after the players had accepted (I think format and prize pool were only a week before the start?). They had an opportunity to drop out, but at that point most were already planning on playing. That's really a pity if the players got screwed that badly x.x | ||
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ramask2
Thailand1024 Posts
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Netsky
Australia1155 Posts
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though it does look for sure like the balance of powers might be shifted somewhat among the kespa players and all that.
