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Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
September 06 2012 10:04 GMT
#461
On September 06 2012 18:59 Hypemeup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 18:57 ElephantBaby wrote:
On September 06 2012 18:53 X3GoldDot wrote:
On September 06 2012 18:52 Scarecrow wrote:
On September 06 2012 18:48 MrCon wrote:
Why do all ESF players play worse than they ever had when facing Kespa players ?
This is so frustrating, god.

Playing someone with better mechanics makes you look worse. It's just like a masters player will look decent against masters but worse against a GM.


lol, u probably must not watch alot of gsl games if you think this is how bad byun plays


Which exact game point in those two games did he play badly? Just want to confirm.

Pretty standard for me, at least can't call the 2nd game loss is due to playing badly.


Attacking into storms, not building ghosts until after being stormed, having a hard time dealing with WP harras. Picking probably one of the worsts builds possible for game 2?

Not that hard to see where he fucked up.


Attacking into storms is inevitable if you ever want to attack. Collossus out range emp and protoss pro's have stopped having templars in the same control group as the rest of the army. But you are right in a way, Byun should know that he simply cant attack and should just go d0000m drop of dOOm and base race.
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
September 06 2012 10:04 GMT
#462
Of course yes! I'd love this map on the ladder.
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 10:05:18
September 06 2012 10:04 GMT
#463
On September 06 2012 19:03 Asha` wrote:
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On September 06 2012 19:01 Dodgin wrote:
should I just put this picture for the live report section of by.sun vs byun

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


we'll pretend that's not fantasy and it will all work out


Maybe have Byun stab himself with the flag while Sun watches on in confused fashion =p

===

COME ON HAPPY


Watching on in consused fashion as he is also watching a drop kill his entire main mineral line.


On September 06 2012 19:04 Fjodorov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 18:59 Hypemeup wrote:
On September 06 2012 18:57 ElephantBaby wrote:
On September 06 2012 18:53 X3GoldDot wrote:
On September 06 2012 18:52 Scarecrow wrote:
On September 06 2012 18:48 MrCon wrote:
Why do all ESF players play worse than they ever had when facing Kespa players ?
This is so frustrating, god.

Playing someone with better mechanics makes you look worse. It's just like a masters player will look decent against masters but worse against a GM.


lol, u probably must not watch alot of gsl games if you think this is how bad byun plays


Which exact game point in those two games did he play badly? Just want to confirm.

Pretty standard for me, at least can't call the 2nd game loss is due to playing badly.


Attacking into storms, not building ghosts until after being stormed, having a hard time dealing with WP harras. Picking probably one of the worsts builds possible for game 2?

Not that hard to see where he fucked up.


Attacking into storms is inevitable if you ever want to attack. Collossus out range emp and protoss pro's have stopped having templars in the same control group as the rest of the army. But you are right in a way, Byun should know that he simply cant attack and should just go d0000m drop of dOOm and base race.


Yes, but it still a misstake to attack into storms. Thats TvP in a nutshell.
BackSideAttack
Profile Joined December 2010
1103 Posts
September 06 2012 10:04 GMT
#464
On September 06 2012 19:01 Salazarz wrote:
I really don't understand why are people trying so hard to be negative towards players. In game 1, Sun's play was excellent. He did not have 'bad drop defence', he had to split his army 3-ways repeatedly; the way he handled the hellions was great, the other time he had spent warp-ins to deal with one drop when the second drop came in; plus he had to make sure he has enough stalkers to cover his colo at the front. Could he have played it better? Of course. But it wasn't 'bad'.

The way he covered the map with observers, and continued remaking them whenever Byun killed them with scans was very good, more Protosses need to do it. His small pokes with Zealots and eventual storm pokes / drops were very nice to see as well. On the other hand, saying 'well Byun just played bad' is really short-sighted too - the reason these drops and pokes could do damage is because unlike most Protosses we see, Sun doesn't just load up a warp prism for a drop while sitting in his base - the harassement comes while there are other things going on on the map, posturing, expanding, attacking. That's what makes it impressive, as the mistakes made by Byun aren't him just being 'bad' or not paying attention, they are forced by his opponent.

No reason to go on claiming Sun is the best player in the world over these series, but likewise no reason to call him mediocre and unimpressive, because he played very well.


Thank you so much for writing what i was thinking, but was too lazy to type. If you looked at that game, Rain has exceptionally good defense with the ht spread and viking snipes.
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
September 06 2012 10:05 GMT
#465
Also.

To be fair, Byun was in a really rough spot seeing that he clearly played the last set with a collapsed lung.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 06 2012 10:05 GMT
#466
On September 06 2012 19:04 usethis2 wrote:
Of course yes! I'd love this map on the ladder.


This map isn't even published on NA I check every day cause I want to play it : (
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
September 06 2012 10:05 GMT
#467
On September 06 2012 19:04 BackSideAttack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 19:01 Salazarz wrote:
I really don't understand why are people trying so hard to be negative towards players. In game 1, Sun's play was excellent. He did not have 'bad drop defence', he had to split his army 3-ways repeatedly; the way he handled the hellions was great, the other time he had spent warp-ins to deal with one drop when the second drop came in; plus he had to make sure he has enough stalkers to cover his colo at the front. Could he have played it better? Of course. But it wasn't 'bad'.

The way he covered the map with observers, and continued remaking them whenever Byun killed them with scans was very good, more Protosses need to do it. His small pokes with Zealots and eventual storm pokes / drops were very nice to see as well. On the other hand, saying 'well Byun just played bad' is really short-sighted too - the reason these drops and pokes could do damage is because unlike most Protosses we see, Sun doesn't just load up a warp prism for a drop while sitting in his base - the harassement comes while there are other things going on on the map, posturing, expanding, attacking. That's what makes it impressive, as the mistakes made by Byun aren't him just being 'bad' or not paying attention, they are forced by his opponent.

No reason to go on claiming Sun is the best player in the world over these series, but likewise no reason to call him mediocre and unimpressive, because he played very well.


Thank you so much for writing what i was thinking, but was too lazy to type. If you looked at that game, Rain has exceptionally good defense with the ht spread and viking snipes.


And losing the templar archives.
I didn't think it was above GSL average. Which I guess is still pretty damn good.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Kultfrisur
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany41 Posts
September 06 2012 10:05 GMT
#468
Gogo Empire.Happy!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 06 2012 10:06 GMT
#469
This map = Dual Site with closer 3rd ;P
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
September 06 2012 10:06 GMT
#470
On September 06 2012 19:05 Porcelina wrote:
Also.

To be fair, Byun was in a really rough spot seeing that he clearly played the last set with a collapsed lung.


Sun is not a foreigner, no excuses!
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
September 06 2012 10:07 GMT
#471
If this map is underwater then the flying shark suddenly makes total sense.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 06 2012 10:07 GMT
#472
HAHAH SALVAGE

oh how sick
Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
September 06 2012 10:07 GMT
#473
LOL LOL LOL.
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
September 06 2012 10:07 GMT
#474
Genius.... T_T

dat failfield
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
September 06 2012 10:07 GMT
#475
On September 06 2012 19:04 X3GoldDot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 19:01 Salazarz wrote:
I really don't understand why are people trying so hard to be negative towards players. In game 1, Sun's play was excellent. He did not have 'bad drop defence', he had to split his army 3-ways repeatedly; the way he handled the hellions was great, the other time he had spent warp-ins to deal with one drop when the second drop came in; plus he had to make sure he has enough stalkers to cover his colo at the front. Could he have played it better? Of course. But it wasn't 'bad'.

The way he covered the map with observers, and continued remaking them whenever Byun killed them with scans was very good, more Protosses need to do it. His small pokes with Zealots and eventual storm pokes / drops were very nice to see as well. On the other hand, saying 'well Byun just played bad' is really short-sighted too - the reason these drops and pokes could do damage is because unlike most Protosses we see, Sun doesn't just load up a warp prism for a drop while sitting in his base - the harassement comes while there are other things going on on the map, posturing, expanding, attacking. That's what makes it impressive, as the mistakes made by Byun aren't him just being 'bad' or not paying attention, they are forced by his opponent.

No reason to go on claiming Sun is the best player in the world over these series, but likewise no reason to call him mediocre and unimpressive, because he played very well.


everyone has been going for many observers nowadays unless you are going for mass amounts of collosi like pvp, creator/parting is a good exmple


Creator and Parting isn't "everyone", there is literally half a dozen of other P players at best who can play PvT as well as those two do. Also, both of these have holes in their play as well, and make mistakes - just like Sun does.
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
September 06 2012 10:07 GMT
#476
Even if the bunker goes down there's too many marines there :/
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 06 2012 10:07 GMT
#477
Happy! DO IT YOU UNHAPPY MFER! :D
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
September 06 2012 10:07 GMT
#478
He just salvaged that.

Haha.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 06 2012 10:08 GMT
#479
Come on Geniusss
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Rain.100
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany946 Posts
September 06 2012 10:08 GMT
#480
haha that was so funny
I have to return some videotapes. Maru and MarineLorD <3
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