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X3GoldDot
Malaysia3840 Posts
On July 25 2012 19:56 Hassybaby wrote: Imagine being ale to make 15 carriers at once, but only needing a single stargate as opposed to 2250/2250 on 15 stargates id be fine with that change if broodlords could attack air | ||
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Notfragile
Greece713 Posts
I was so sure this would pop up. Don't start the dicussion on how some nukes/emps would have ended it if bomber did not choke so hard. I just find whining about infestors so out of place. Creator stayed put in his base, allowing Curious to make the unstoppable static support for his army. See it this way: Every army has a finite number of resources in it due to population limit. The zerg brood/infestor is more expensive than the protoss army but the archon toilet if done correctly can still kill it. However, if you make mass static defense you can have an army with unlimited supply. There are 2 solutions to this: a) Neural the mothership or spread perfectly and waste the vortex b) Make a larger army. Curious' only limitation was the amount of minerals he could get his hands on. While the zerg army might have cost 5000/5000 (just an example) his actual army with the static support was more like 13000/5000. So... don't let the zerg get to that point. Creator waited for an eternity, not making carriers fast enough and not killing a base/recalling when his mothership reached max energy. | ||
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
On July 25 2012 19:55 Orek wrote: Just for the sake of BW tradition, I like interceptors costing money. I hope Blizzard can balance it without removing interceptor cost. To be fair costing minerals isn't really the issue with carriers, the speed of everything in the game means that by the time most anti-air gets hit by an interceptor they've already closed in on the carrier itself. There are a lot of good solutions to the carrier issue discussed in the carrier thread in sc2 general, but there's also a lot of bad ideas haha. Either way it feels like Blizzard doesn't want to update the carrier because they don't understand what they could do with it. Oh well. | ||
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Aeceus
United Kingdom1278 Posts
On July 25 2012 19:57 oOOoOphidian wrote: I really dislike Ohana as well. Only 5 bases per player, such short distances and hard to defend bases. It reminds me of early season maps... Korhal Compound was a better with similar design and while it had some of the same problems, it was still worth playing on. The only reason GSL is using it in the pool is because the OSL map pool includes it, so all the players need practice on the map. I agree with you but no no Korhal is awful. Still can't believe it got 3rd in the TLMC instead of Sanctuary | ||
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graNite
Germany4434 Posts
On July 25 2012 19:56 FakeDeath wrote: No Creator fucked up.Dun blame game balance on this one. HE lost his whole fucking army when he had RECALL.Choking???? Double vortex hit nothing???lol He also had an earlier 5th and had a 4th base at the same time as Curious. lol He could have straight transition into carriers/archons/templars/mothership much faster but he did not and CHOSE T GO VOID RAYS FIRST???? Creator had an advantage but Curious was more patient and outplayed him in the end although Creator mistakes and huge choking cost him that but wp by Curious. i know, i saw the choking. but what can a protoss do to deall mass infestor broodlord? | ||
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kubiks
France1328 Posts
It was so funny to look at bomber trying so hard to not thinking about making ghost. The only other unit he didn't made was reaper, and it's not like you would ever want to do a reaper against zerg now  | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
On July 25 2012 19:53 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: most anticipated match of the day for me coming up. Wonder if Yoda is still a padawan or not. Supernova is a good test though. He's like that boss you encounter about midway through a video game that serves as a prologue to the game's more difficult aspect. The guy who finally gives you consecutive game overs. I think SuperNoVa's experience is gonna get him a 2-0 and the Nestea Award. | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
On July 25 2012 19:57 oOOoOphidian wrote: I really dislike Ohana as well. Only 5 bases per player, such short distances and hard to defend bases. It reminds me of early season maps... Korhal Compound was a better with similar design and while it had some of the same problems, it was still worth playing on. The only reason GSL is using it in the pool is because the OSL map pool includes it, so all the players need practice on the map. Oh god anything but Korhal. I'd rather have Calm before the Storm back before Korhal could make a GSL map pool | ||
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On July 25 2012 19:55 Orek wrote: Just for the sake of BW tradition, I like interceptors costing money. I hope Blizzard can balance it without removing interceptor cost. Clinging on to something because it was like that in BW is a terrible idea for game design, fyi. In BW they also didn't have infestors that spewed out dozens of free marines or brood lords spawning infinite free zerglings. | ||
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
On July 25 2012 19:57 X3GoldDot wrote: id be fine with that change if broodlords could attack air There's a reason broodlords are called gglords in the internets, they don't need any buffs, carriers on the other hand. | ||
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Tibbroar
United States161 Posts
50 spines/spores aren't going to prevent a snipe on the spire? | ||
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Aeceus
United Kingdom1278 Posts
On July 25 2012 19:58 graNite wrote: i know, i saw the choking. but what can a protoss do to deall mass infestor broodlord? All of those mistake add up and also making voids instead of making Carriers earlier | ||
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Orek
1665 Posts
On July 25 2012 19:56 rothsbury wrote: It's not like they're strong because of carriers though. A buff which makes a unit more viable without making the race too strong can only be for the good. If anything should come back in Legacy of the Void, Carreir is it. En taro Tassadar. | ||
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On July 25 2012 19:57 oOOoOphidian wrote: I really dislike Ohana as well. Only 5 bases per player, such short distances and hard to defend bases. It reminds me of early season maps... Korhal Compound was a better with similar design and while it had some of the same problems, it was still worth playing on. The only reason GSL is using it in the pool is because the OSL map pool includes it, so all the players need practice on the map. Ohana makes sense in the map pool though. We have way too many big maps, and as a lot of tournaments have shown us a lot of players like to choose it. | ||
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Incomplet
United Kingdom1419 Posts
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AgentChaos
United Kingdom4569 Posts
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
On July 25 2012 19:58 kubiks wrote: It was so funny to look at bomber trying so hard to not thinking about making ghost. The only other unit he didn't made was reaper, and it's not like you would ever want to do a reaper against zerg now Reapers with medivacs are pretty darned good in the early-mid game unless they roach. But yeah, reapers are like the early game scout and that's the end =( | ||
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X3GoldDot
Malaysia3840 Posts
On July 25 2012 19:59 IshinShishi wrote: There's a reason broodlords are called gglords in the internets, they don't need any buffs, carriers on the other hand. if carriers could be built 15 at a time, while having free interceptors, prepare for 32 protosses in code S. | ||
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Chicken Chaser
United States533 Posts
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