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L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
July 22 2012 19:13 GMT
#1521
On July 23 2012 03:12 Yaki wrote:
Is MLG going to remove extended series some day ? I mean are they just keeping it to annoy everyone ? I see no valid point in keeping it and it is really unfair.

if you dont see a valid point then you obviously havent looked into the debate at all. Extended series does have some good points
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
July 22 2012 19:13 GMT
#1522
On July 23 2012 04:12 ikh wrote:
kind of weirded out about how i want to see alicia lose more than i want to see oz win, even though alicia could likely produce decent play in both pvp and pvt finals situations, and he seems like a cool enough guy anyway. i'm just kind of bitter how he managed to get far in yet another tournament despite being code C level when it comes to pvz >=(

He has weak pvz compared to his other matchups but pretty sure he still stomps 99.9% of the foreigners in pvz
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
RawrbHero
Profile Joined September 2010
United States165 Posts
July 22 2012 19:13 GMT
#1523
On July 23 2012 04:12 ikh wrote:
kind of weirded out about how i want to see alicia lose more than i want to see oz win, even though alicia could likely produce decent play in both pvp and pvt finals situations, and he seems like a cool enough guy anyway. i'm just kind of bitter how he managed to get far in yet another tournament despite being code C level when it comes to pvz >=(

Every player has a match up they suffer in. Stephano is absolutely scared of ZvZ, but he still does well in tournaments.
Its not today that im worried about, but tomorrow that scares the shit out of me...
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45816 Posts
July 22 2012 19:13 GMT
#1524
On July 23 2012 04:11 RawrbHero wrote:
Axslav showing some baller map knowledge!


On July 23 2012 04:12 shawster wrote:
axslav is a god


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"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
July 22 2012 19:13 GMT
#1525
On July 23 2012 04:07 -TesteR- wrote:
Each player had a fair chance to gain an unfair advantage later on in a semi-fair tournament.

Fair?


Depends, is the tournament half-fair or half-unfair?
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
July 22 2012 19:13 GMT
#1526
On July 23 2012 04:11 Roxor9999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 04:09 shabby wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:08 phb wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:06 sam05396 wrote:
so what advantage does alicia have for being in winners bracket


Extended series advantage...


And having to play less games total.

That is not an advantage.


Its not? Showing builds, spending energy, not getting to watch your opponents games/builds/playstyles etc.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Vaftrudner
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden1185 Posts
July 22 2012 19:14 GMT
#1527
Hm, so if I understand correctly, the two foreigners who get seeded into pool play are Stephano and Goody? I think Goody came in 15th/16th.
"Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one." - Day9
Urbz
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands456 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-22 19:15:40
July 22 2012 19:14 GMT
#1528
I cant wait till the final, if only since the extended series debate will finally stop here again and we can actually focus on the games again!
If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
July 22 2012 19:14 GMT
#1529
On July 23 2012 04:13 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 03:12 Yaki wrote:
Is MLG going to remove extended series some day ? I mean are they just keeping it to annoy everyone ? I see no valid point in keeping it and it is really unfair.

if you dont see a valid point then you obviously havent looked into the debate at all. Extended series does have some good points


What good points does it have in an elimination tournament style like this? I see there are a tiny few merits in pool play tournaments, to avoid game throwing.
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
July 22 2012 19:15 GMT
#1530
On July 23 2012 04:13 shabby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 04:11 Roxor9999 wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:09 shabby wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:08 phb wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:06 sam05396 wrote:
so what advantage does alicia have for being in winners bracket


Extended series advantage...


And having to play less games total.

That is not an advantage.


Its not? Showing builds, spending energy, not getting to watch your opponents games/builds/playstyles etc.


Past games played is not typically considered advantageous (only future games would be considered an advantage), although from a realistic perspective the player will be less tired.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
July 22 2012 19:15 GMT
#1531
On July 23 2012 04:14 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 04:13 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On July 23 2012 03:12 Yaki wrote:
Is MLG going to remove extended series some day ? I mean are they just keeping it to annoy everyone ? I see no valid point in keeping it and it is really unfair.

if you dont see a valid point then you obviously havent looked into the debate at all. Extended series does have some good points


What good points does it have in an elimination tournament style like this? I see there are a tiny few merits in pool play tournaments, to avoid game throwing.

It provides a powerful hype engine by creating immense amounts of discussion, which also makes MLG LR threads look huge!
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
July 22 2012 19:15 GMT
#1532
gg build order counters
can i get my estro logo back pls
Roxor9999
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands771 Posts
July 22 2012 19:15 GMT
#1533
On July 23 2012 04:13 shabby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 04:11 Roxor9999 wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:09 shabby wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:08 phb wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:06 sam05396 wrote:
so what advantage does alicia have for being in winners bracket


Extended series advantage...


And having to play less games total.

That is not an advantage.


Its not? Showing builds, spending energy, not getting to watch your opponents games/builds/playstyles etc.

Getting more chances to win an equal amount of games is not an advantage.
ikh
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom251 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-22 19:16:30
July 22 2012 19:16 GMT
#1534
On July 23 2012 04:13 Yaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 04:12 ikh wrote:
kind of weirded out about how i want to see alicia lose more than i want to see oz win, even though alicia could likely produce decent play in both pvp and pvt finals situations, and he seems like a cool enough guy anyway. i'm just kind of bitter how he managed to get far in yet another tournament despite being code C level when it comes to pvz >=(

He has weak pvz compared to his other matchups but pretty sure he still stomps 99.9% of the foreigners in pvz

ret vs alicia at NASL looked like both players were trying to lose as hard as they could. don't think i've ever seen supposedly high level tournament semifinals which looked as horrible.

(alicia vs stephano, too, but he was expected to lose that one anyway. just not _that_ horribly as he did, it was probably even worse than nestea vs inca)
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
July 22 2012 19:16 GMT
#1535
On July 23 2012 04:12 sam05396 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 04:08 phb wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:06 sam05396 wrote:
so what advantage does alicia have for being in winners bracket


Extended series advantage...


that has nothing to do with coming from the winners bracket.....


If he had not dropped a game to Oz earlier, he would have a 2-0 advantage, which means he only has to win 2 games across the entire series and his opponent has to win 4.

Compare to Taeja, who could lose the first series 2-1, and then has to win 2 games in the next Bo3 to advance, for 3 total.

Best advantage goes to person with extended series.
Not supporting teams who take robber baron money.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 22 2012 19:16 GMT
#1536
On July 23 2012 04:15 Dfgj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 04:14 FairForever wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:13 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On July 23 2012 03:12 Yaki wrote:
Is MLG going to remove extended series some day ? I mean are they just keeping it to annoy everyone ? I see no valid point in keeping it and it is really unfair.

if you dont see a valid point then you obviously havent looked into the debate at all. Extended series does have some good points


What good points does it have in an elimination tournament style like this? I see there are a tiny few merits in pool play tournaments, to avoid game throwing.

It provides a powerful hype engine by creating immense amounts of discussion, which also makes MLG LR threads look huge!

MLG are geniuses!
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
July 22 2012 19:17 GMT
#1537
On July 23 2012 04:15 Roxor9999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 04:13 shabby wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:11 Roxor9999 wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:09 shabby wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:08 phb wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:06 sam05396 wrote:
so what advantage does alicia have for being in winners bracket


Extended series advantage...


And having to play less games total.

That is not an advantage.


Its not? Showing builds, spending energy, not getting to watch your opponents games/builds/playstyles etc.

Getting more chances to win an equal amount of games is not an advantage.


What are you talking about? Of course playing less games is an advantage. Not as fatigued/less chance of being eliminated.
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
July 22 2012 19:17 GMT
#1538
On July 23 2012 04:16 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 04:15 Dfgj wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:14 FairForever wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:13 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On July 23 2012 03:12 Yaki wrote:
Is MLG going to remove extended series some day ? I mean are they just keeping it to annoy everyone ? I see no valid point in keeping it and it is really unfair.

if you dont see a valid point then you obviously havent looked into the debate at all. Extended series does have some good points


What good points does it have in an elimination tournament style like this? I see there are a tiny few merits in pool play tournaments, to avoid game throwing.

It provides a powerful hype engine by creating immense amounts of discussion, which also makes MLG LR threads look huge!

MLG are geniuses!


This made me lol
Roxor9999
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands771 Posts
July 22 2012 19:18 GMT
#1539
On July 23 2012 04:16 yeint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 04:12 sam05396 wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:08 phb wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:06 sam05396 wrote:
so what advantage does alicia have for being in winners bracket


Extended series advantage...


that has nothing to do with coming from the winners bracket.....


If he had not dropped a game to Oz earlier, he would have a 2-0 advantage, which means he only has to win 2 games across the entire series and his opponent has to win 4.

Compare to Taeja, who could lose the first series 2-1, and then has to win 2 games in the next Bo3 to advance, for 3 total.

Best advantage goes to person with extended series.

that has nothing to do with coming from the winners bracket.....
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
July 22 2012 19:18 GMT
#1540
On July 23 2012 04:16 ikh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 04:13 Yaki wrote:
On July 23 2012 04:12 ikh wrote:
kind of weirded out about how i want to see alicia lose more than i want to see oz win, even though alicia could likely produce decent play in both pvp and pvt finals situations, and he seems like a cool enough guy anyway. i'm just kind of bitter how he managed to get far in yet another tournament despite being code C level when it comes to pvz >=(

He has weak pvz compared to his other matchups but pretty sure he still stomps 99.9% of the foreigners in pvz

ret vs alicia at NASL looked like both players were trying to lose as hard as they could. don't think i've ever seen supposedly high level tournament semifinals which looked as horrible.

(alicia vs stephano, too, but he was expected to lose that one anyway. just not _that_ horribly as he did, it was probably even worse than nestea vs inca)


Honestly, alicia is really good all 3 matchups, better than like almost all foreigner protoss. The thing is though, all of his won games vs good people recently have been either PvP or coinflips. His style is also really... plain? so he's not as fun to watch
can i get my estro logo back pls
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