EPT[NASL] Season 3 Finals Day 2 - Page 118
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Maddhatter1
United States51 Posts
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Latham
9588 Posts
On July 16 2012 07:18 HaXXspetten wrote: a 4-0 would help for the schedule's sake Indeed. That's what I'm banking on - MC speeding up the schedule for our sake. It's sad to see Ret getting demolished, but MC deserves this much more than Ret. | ||
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yeint
Estonia2329 Posts
On July 16 2012 07:18 InoyouS2 wrote: No, the worst by FAR is PvP, I don't care what anyone says. Problem with Protoss is that it's units are so expensive and strong that every PvX matchup ends in one engagement most of the time. PvP is a lot better, since it usually ends early and has constant aggression. PvZ might as well be played on Novice maps. | ||
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figq
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On July 16 2012 07:17 Tewks44 wrote: that game was totally awesome, I don't know what some of you people are smoking. Seriously, some of you guys will complain about anything. I kinda liked the game, but this is not how a long macro game is played, or at least not what I'm thinking when the term "long macro game" comes to my head. Turtling for >30 minutes and ending the game in a single battle isn't the idea. Long macro games are those which reach that stage after tons of skirmishes and battles throughout the early and mid game, with engagements all over the map, harass maneuvers and strategic moves going on all the time, to finally end after a long fought engagement in the end. Watch Bisu vs Last for very recent reference. If you want to watch true epicness, watch Jaedong vs Flash from a few years back on WCG, the very definition of a "long macro game" | ||
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mememolly
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Geos13
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darthfoley
United States8004 Posts
On July 16 2012 07:18 InoyouS2 wrote: No, the worst by FAR is PvP, I don't care what anyone says. Problem with Protoss is that it's units are so expensive and strong that every PvX matchup ends in one engagement most of the time. at least PvP can be micro intensive/intense. PvZ is like 20 minutes macro, 5 minutes positioning and then vortex. | ||
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Malinor
Germany4758 Posts
And doesn't matter that the semis were Bo7, a Bo5 for 3rd place would really have been enough. Besides that, this event is really good. Delays always happen. | ||
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Porteroso
United States19 Posts
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Toadvine
Poland2234 Posts
On July 16 2012 07:18 JustPassingBy wrote: plus, the protoss will always be more cost efficient than the zerg. so if you let him mine out his half of the map and you do yours, you're in quite some trouble. The Broodlord/Infestor ball is way more cost-efficient than anything Protoss can put out. | ||
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najreteip
Belgium4158 Posts
On July 16 2012 07:18 An2quamaraN wrote: Not like MC was 80 supply ahead with 11k 6k resources in bank...if it wasn't for that toilet, he would have surely have hard time... It was the toilet at the first engagement when they were both 200/200 that decided the game | ||
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Day9notdead
Russian Federation501 Posts
On July 16 2012 07:15 entropius wrote: Late game PvZ is ... idiotic. Who cares if it's "balanced" or not -- it's just a crapshoot. Sometimes Zerg wins when Protoss doesn't manage to vortex them out, sometimes Zerg loses when Protoss hits vortex, but it is ridiculous in a game where players play at ~200 APM for only two of those actions (select mothership, cast vortex) to decide the game. Design fail. Blizzard ought to remove the mothership from the game and then give Protoss whatever tools they need to fight brood lord/infestor in a straight-up fight. exactly - lets just make all units exactly the same for all races so they could figh straight up and all the matchups would look exactly the same. I share your point here and very much enjoy the lack of diversity in games.. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23579 Posts
On July 16 2012 07:18 Harbinger631 wrote: Can Ret do anything else than passive broodlord? His roach ling into Muta and then constantly attacking at 3 different spots is really great imo. Well it still ends with bl/infestor if he doesn't kill his opponent in the mid game though^^. | ||
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-Kira
352 Posts
On July 16 2012 07:15 entropius wrote: Late game PvZ is ... idiotic. Who cares if it's "balanced" or not -- it's just a crapshoot. Sometimes Zerg wins when Protoss doesn't manage to vortex them out, sometimes Zerg loses when Protoss hits vortex, but it is ridiculous in a game where players play at ~200 APM for only two of those actions (select mothership, cast vortex) to decide the game. Design fail. Blizzard ought to remove the mothership from the game and then give Protoss whatever tools they need to fight brood lord/infestor in a straight-up fight. I love current PvZ. I don't play anything like the standard and zergs don't know wtf to do. It's players fault, not the matchup. If they have 200+ apm they can have multiple battles going on at the same time, they just chose not to. | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
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Stanlot
United States5742 Posts
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JustPassingBy
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Vorenius
Denmark1979 Posts
On July 16 2012 07:19 NeonFox wrote: It's not just about splitting. The first one to make a slight mistake gets obliterated. More like the protoss is getting slowly obliterated while praying for the zerg to make a slight mistake and then capitalize on it. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
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