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-Kira
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
352 Posts
July 15 2012 22:23 GMT
#2381
On July 16 2012 07:22 Orek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 07:21 -Kira wrote:
On July 16 2012 07:15 entropius wrote:
Late game PvZ is ... idiotic. Who cares if it's "balanced" or not -- it's just a crapshoot. Sometimes Zerg wins when Protoss doesn't manage to vortex them out, sometimes Zerg loses when Protoss hits vortex, but it is ridiculous in a game where players play at ~200 APM for only two of those actions (select mothership, cast vortex) to decide the game.

Design fail. Blizzard ought to remove the mothership from the game and then give Protoss whatever tools they need to fight brood lord/infestor in a straight-up fight.


I love current PvZ. I don't play anything like the standard and zergs don't know wtf to do. It's players fault, not the matchup.


Sadly, most of us don't care how "you" play. We care how pros play.


Write them a letter?
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
July 15 2012 22:23 GMT
#2382
On July 16 2012 07:16 the`postman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 07:15 ThePhan2m wrote:
why didnt ret just wait??? such a bad way to go out. how hard is it spread your army?? vortex is so obvious.....

You can't just let the protoss get to his archon/carrier/collosi death ball, gotta push out at some point.

Except you can, just sit still dimaga style and ask for draw.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Poisonblack
Profile Joined May 2011
452 Posts
July 15 2012 22:23 GMT
#2383
Stephano being that good is an anomaly seriously ..

barely practices, plays basically 1 style 99% of the time, and still owns the best PvZ players in the world. how?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
July 15 2012 22:23 GMT
#2384
On July 16 2012 07:23 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 07:22 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 16 2012 07:22 opterown wrote:
Poll: MC wins - $1,000,000. Ret wins - your life. Take the bet?

Yes (77)
 
91%

No (8)
 
9%

85 total votes

Your vote: MC wins - $1,000,000. Ret wins - your life. Take the bet?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


omg it's back. don't do it people! you'll die!!!! it's not worth it!
although I like to roll the dice so I took the risk


just voted for yes to make it more exciting

I think I died 4 or 5 times the first few times this poll started popping up last year
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monie
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden258 Posts
July 15 2012 22:23 GMT
#2385
I like Frodan's casts more and more, he's pretty good.
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
July 15 2012 22:23 GMT
#2386
On July 16 2012 07:22 opterown wrote:
Poll: MC wins - $1,000,000. Ret wins - your life. Take the bet?

Yes (77)
 
91%

No (8)
 
9%

85 total votes

Your vote: MC wins - $1,000,000. Ret wins - your life. Take the bet?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



WHAT ARE YOU DOING MAN DELETE THIS POST NOW
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
July 15 2012 22:23 GMT
#2387
On July 16 2012 07:22 opterown wrote:
Poll: MC wins - $1,000,000. Ret wins - your life. Take the bet?

Yes (77)
 
91%

No (8)
 
9%

85 total votes

Your vote: MC wins - $1,000,000. Ret wins - your life. Take the bet?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No




why do you want 4 more games
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.." ~Nick "Confucius" Plott
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
July 15 2012 22:23 GMT
#2388
On July 16 2012 07:22 opterown wrote:
Poll: MC wins - $1,000,000. Ret wins - your life. Take the bet?

Yes (77)
 
91%

No (8)
 
9%

85 total votes

Your vote: MC wins - $1,000,000. Ret wins - your life. Take the bet?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


90% of the time I've said no

so far I've lived to tell the tale... ok Imma roll this time then :s
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 15 2012 22:23 GMT
#2389
On July 16 2012 07:22 opterown wrote:
Poll: MC wins - $1,000,000. Ret wins - your life. Take the bet?

Yes (77)
 
91%

No (8)
 
9%

85 total votes

Your vote: MC wins - $1,000,000. Ret wins - your life. Take the bet?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


Easiest money made. I think I would do it for 50,000€ as well. Ret wont win ever.
I had a good night of sleep.
Rayjin
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany205 Posts
July 15 2012 22:24 GMT
#2390
MC's army controll is just amazing - i would've died to Ret's attack without a chance :D
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
July 15 2012 22:24 GMT
#2391
On July 16 2012 07:21 -Kira wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 07:15 entropius wrote:
Late game PvZ is ... idiotic. Who cares if it's "balanced" or not -- it's just a crapshoot. Sometimes Zerg wins when Protoss doesn't manage to vortex them out, sometimes Zerg loses when Protoss hits vortex, but it is ridiculous in a game where players play at ~200 APM for only two of those actions (select mothership, cast vortex) to decide the game.

Design fail. Blizzard ought to remove the mothership from the game and then give Protoss whatever tools they need to fight brood lord/infestor in a straight-up fight.


I love current PvZ. I don't play anything like the standard and zergs don't know wtf to do. It's players fault, not the matchup. If they have 200+ apm they can have multiple battles going on at the same time, they just chose not to.


and that's why you're MVP's resident PVZ sniper in Korea, right?
can i get my estro logo back pls
the`postman
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1643 Posts
July 15 2012 22:24 GMT
#2392
On July 16 2012 07:22 Durp wrote:
I feel like the solution to that situation is the nydus wurm. There's basically nothing a protoss can do in that situation vs a nydus in the main when they have to keep their entire stalker/archon/colossus/mothership army in the middle of the map to hold off the broods.

I wish the nydus got more popular

What units is the zerg going to put in the nydus? The protoss player had like 25 warp gates, he could easily handle it.
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
July 15 2012 22:24 GMT
#2393
On July 16 2012 07:22 Diavlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 07:20 yeint wrote:
On July 16 2012 07:18 InoyouS2 wrote:
On July 16 2012 07:17 darthfoley wrote:
On July 16 2012 07:14 Mrwl wrote:
On July 16 2012 07:13 darthfoley wrote:
well this is why pvz is retarded to watch. we wait 25 minutes for one vortex and it's gg



quoted for the truth


seriously, i'm terran and i'm not balance whining, just from an entertainment stand point pvz is probably the worst matchup in the game... zvz is pretty bad too


No, the worst by FAR is PvP, I don't care what anyone says.

Problem with Protoss is that it's units are so expensive and strong that every PvX matchup ends in one engagement most of the time.


PvP is a lot better, since it usually ends early and has constant aggression.

PvZ might as well be played on Novice maps.


PvP and PvZ are pretty similar, pretty good in the early, mid game (although i prefer PvP) and completely shitty in the late game with a heavy tendency to just be determined by one wrong move.

PvT is worst
ZvT is best
ZvP and the mirrors are all ok
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
July 15 2012 22:24 GMT
#2394
On July 16 2012 07:23 mememolly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 07:22 opterown wrote:
Poll: MC wins - $1,000,000. Ret wins - your life. Take the bet?

Yes (77)
 
91%

No (8)
 
9%

85 total votes

Your vote: MC wins - $1,000,000. Ret wins - your life. Take the bet?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



win win in my book


That's the spirit!
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Durp
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada3117 Posts
July 15 2012 22:24 GMT
#2395
Anyone remember way back when San vs NesTea and San went pure archon/mothership before the vortex patch, and NesTea made something like 30 banelings to negate the archons in the vortex.

Maybe there's something to be considered there
SOOOOOooooOOOOooooOOOOoo Many BANELINGS!!
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
July 15 2012 22:24 GMT
#2396
On July 16 2012 07:23 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 07:22 opterown wrote:
Poll: MC wins - $1,000,000. Ret wins - your life. Take the bet?

Yes (77)
 
91%

No (8)
 
9%

85 total votes

Your vote: MC wins - $1,000,000. Ret wins - your life. Take the bet?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


Easiest money made. I think I would do it for 50,000€ as well. Ret wont win ever.


hell i'd do this for $5
can i get my estro logo back pls
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
July 15 2012 22:25 GMT
#2397
On July 16 2012 07:24 the`postman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 07:22 Durp wrote:
I feel like the solution to that situation is the nydus wurm. There's basically nothing a protoss can do in that situation vs a nydus in the main when they have to keep their entire stalker/archon/colossus/mothership army in the middle of the map to hold off the broods.

I wish the nydus got more popular

What units is the zerg going to put in the nydus? The protoss player had like 25 warp gates, he could easily handle it.


Is he going to kill off a bunch of his army to free up supply to warp in his main/
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
July 15 2012 22:25 GMT
#2398
On July 16 2012 07:22 Durp wrote:
I feel like the solution to that situation is the nydus wurm. There's basically nothing a protoss can do in that situation vs a nydus in the main when they have to keep their entire stalker/archon/colossus/mothership army in the middle of the map to hold off the broods.

I wish the nydus got more popular

Yeah base raids before engaging in the middle in order to limit reinforcement warp ins is pretty effective... but very underused.
Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
July 15 2012 22:25 GMT
#2399
On July 16 2012 07:23 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 07:22 opterown wrote:
Poll: MC wins - $1,000,000. Ret wins - your life. Take the bet?

Yes (77)
 
91%

No (8)
 
9%

85 total votes

Your vote: MC wins - $1,000,000. Ret wins - your life. Take the bet?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No


Easiest money made. I think I would do it for 50,000€ as well. Ret wont win ever.


Only Nestea has survived the 1 million bet
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.." ~Nick "Confucius" Plott
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
July 15 2012 22:25 GMT
#2400
On July 16 2012 07:23 mememolly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 07:22 opterown wrote:
Poll: MC wins - $1,000,000. Ret wins - your life. Take the bet?

Yes (77)
 
91%

No (8)
 
9%

85 total votes

Your vote: MC wins - $1,000,000. Ret wins - your life. Take the bet?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



win win in my book


most depressing post of the thread?
"that is our ethos; free content, starcraft content, websites that work occasionally" -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
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