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On July 20 2012 07:15 fishjie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 03:37 Whatson wrote:On July 20 2012 03:35 fishjie wrote:
ok is stephano pvz seriously better than DRG? cause stephano STOMPED mc at nasl. just STOMPED.
i am in awe Or maybe DRG just plain sucked last night? I feared that this would happen... And what exactly are you in awe of again? stephano. not only the best foreigner at this point, but legit one of the top zerg players.
He's always been one of the top Zergs. The question is whether he's the best ZvP now that DRG is underperforming in the match up. One series does not determine this, obviously, but DRG also lost to HerO 2-5 a week ago.
I say it give it 2-3 additional tournaments. Too bad DRG is not going to Summer Arena.
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On July 20 2012 07:54 Chicane wrote:
Not surprising DRG went down 3-0. DRG didn't look too strong against Naniwa, despite Naniwa being weakest in PvZ.
And I don't know why people are so quick to discredit Stephano. His ZvP is probably best in the world, and he continually proves that. The one loss in ZvP that stands out recently as surprising is when he lost to Mana... other than that he has continued to do well against the best, including against MC... a protoss who many call the best PvZer.
It's almost as if some people are like "Oh please Stephano can't be better than a Korean in a match up... it must all be hype despite him having the results."
SaSe also beat stephano
Also, MC said he didn't prepare at all for Stephano or NASL.
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It's good to know MC is getting along with Nani, crediting him for his sick new PvZ build. If MC trains with Nani PvP, I see this finals being a swift 4-0.
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On July 20 2012 10:25 -TesteR- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 07:54 Chicane wrote:
Not surprising DRG went down 3-0. DRG didn't look too strong against Naniwa, despite Naniwa being weakest in PvZ.
And I don't know why people are so quick to discredit Stephano. His ZvP is probably best in the world, and he continually proves that. The one loss in ZvP that stands out recently as surprising is when he lost to Mana... other than that he has continued to do well against the best, including against MC... a protoss who many call the best PvZer.
It's almost as if some people are like "Oh please Stephano can't be better than a Korean in a match up... it must all be hype despite him having the results." SaSe also beat stephano Also, MC said he didn't prepare at all for Stephano or NASL. ============ It's good to know MC is getting along with Nani, crediting him for his sick new PvZ build. If MC trains with Nani PvP, I see this finals being a swift 4-0.
The chances for the most volatile matchup to end up in a 4-0 sweep are pretty slim, I'd say.
But I also have a feeling that MC will win.
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ByuN vs MC would have been so great. But at least MC got through!
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On July 20 2012 11:23 DongLongJohnson wrote:
ByuN vs MC would have been so great. But at least MC got through!
+1
The exact opposite of my liquibet happened today, but my heart wanted MC in the finals. Byun would have been the ideal opponent, but PvP finals at least ensures a Protoss winner 
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On July 20 2012 10:25 -TesteR- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 07:54 Chicane wrote:
Not surprising DRG went down 3-0. DRG didn't look too strong against Naniwa, despite Naniwa being weakest in PvZ.
And I don't know why people are so quick to discredit Stephano. His ZvP is probably best in the world, and he continually proves that. The one loss in ZvP that stands out recently as surprising is when he lost to Mana... other than that he has continued to do well against the best, including against MC... a protoss who many call the best PvZer.
It's almost as if some people are like "Oh please Stephano can't be better than a Korean in a match up... it must all be hype despite him having the results." SaSe also beat stephano Also, MC said he didn't prepare at all for Stephano or NASL. ============ It's good to know MC is getting along with Nani, crediting him for his sick new PvZ build. If MC trains with Nani PvP, I see this finals being a swift 4-0.
Why do you think it is more skill relevent to win a prepared match than an unprepared one? I agree it takes different skills but MC lost to Nerchio & Stephano in respectively bo5 & bo7 if I'm not mistaken. Besides Stephano & MC obviously studied each other playstyle a lot as they both make the PvZ mu evolve.
There are also Naniwa's results in GSL, showing it's not that hard, it makes foreigner average result to be ro8 in the 2 lats code S wich is betetr than Korean globally.
I think this hype for GSL comes from BW's OSL & MSL, it was more relevant because those were the only individual leagues & you could tell BW players had a more personal style than SC2 ones & that maps were more different. Atm SC2 maps often have similar gameplay & same can be said for players.
TL;DR : I used to see GSL as the only real showcase of skill but I'm not sure of it now, GSL seems as random as any 2 days tourneys. Does it really deserve so much credit?
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On July 20 2012 13:19 nojok wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 10:25 -TesteR- wrote:On July 20 2012 07:54 Chicane wrote:
Not surprising DRG went down 3-0. DRG didn't look too strong against Naniwa, despite Naniwa being weakest in PvZ.
And I don't know why people are so quick to discredit Stephano. His ZvP is probably best in the world, and he continually proves that. The one loss in ZvP that stands out recently as surprising is when he lost to Mana... other than that he has continued to do well against the best, including against MC... a protoss who many call the best PvZer.
It's almost as if some people are like "Oh please Stephano can't be better than a Korean in a match up... it must all be hype despite him having the results." SaSe also beat stephano Also, MC said he didn't prepare at all for Stephano or NASL. ============ It's good to know MC is getting along with Nani, crediting him for his sick new PvZ build. If MC trains with Nani PvP, I see this finals being a swift 4-0. Why do you think it is more skill relevent to win a prepared match than an unprepared one? I agree it takes different skills but MC lost to Nerchio & Stephano in respectively bo5 & bo7 if I'm not mistaken. Besides Stephano & MC obviously studied each other playstyle a lot as they both make the PvZ mu evolve. There are also Naniwa's results in GSL, showing it's not that hard, it makes foreigner average result to be ro8 in the 2 lats code S wich is betetr than Korean globally. I think this hype for GSL comes from BW's OSL & MSL, it was more relevant because those were the only individual leagues & you could tell BW players had a more personal style than SC2 ones & that maps were more different. Atm SC2 maps often have similar gameplay & same can be said for players. TL;DR : I used to see GSL as the only real showcase of skill but I'm not sure of it now, GSL seems as random as any 2 days tourneys. Does it really deserve so much credit?
Yes it does, and your statement that I put in bold is completely ridiculous. Multiple Koreans get into the top 8 of every major foreign tournament, while one foreigner has been able to make consistent showings in Code S. GSL takes the most skill because there is far more pressure and because you have to face someone who has had at least a week to prepare to face only you. Stephano may be one of the best Zergs in the world, but he still has to prove himself in the GSL format.
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On July 20 2012 13:24 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 13:19 nojok wrote:On July 20 2012 10:25 -TesteR- wrote:On July 20 2012 07:54 Chicane wrote:
Not surprising DRG went down 3-0. DRG didn't look too strong against Naniwa, despite Naniwa being weakest in PvZ.
And I don't know why people are so quick to discredit Stephano. His ZvP is probably best in the world, and he continually proves that. The one loss in ZvP that stands out recently as surprising is when he lost to Mana... other than that he has continued to do well against the best, including against MC... a protoss who many call the best PvZer.
It's almost as if some people are like "Oh please Stephano can't be better than a Korean in a match up... it must all be hype despite him having the results." SaSe also beat stephano Also, MC said he didn't prepare at all for Stephano or NASL. ============ It's good to know MC is getting along with Nani, crediting him for his sick new PvZ build. If MC trains with Nani PvP, I see this finals being a swift 4-0. Why do you think it is more skill relevent to win a prepared match than an unprepared one? I agree it takes different skills but MC lost to Nerchio & Stephano in respectively bo5 & bo7 if I'm not mistaken. Besides Stephano & MC obviously studied each other playstyle a lot as they both make the PvZ mu evolve. There are also Naniwa's results in GSL, showing it's not that hard, it makes foreigner average result to be ro8 in the 2 lats code S wich is betetr than Korean globally. I think this hype for GSL comes from BW's OSL & MSL, it was more relevant because those were the only individual leagues & you could tell BW players had a more personal style than SC2 ones & that maps were more different. Atm SC2 maps often have similar gameplay & same can be said for players. TL;DR : I used to see GSL as the only real showcase of skill but I'm not sure of it now, GSL seems as random as any 2 days tourneys. Does it really deserve so much credit? Yes it does, and your statement that I put in bold is completely ridiculous. Multiple Koreans get into the top 8 of every major foreign tournament, while one foreigner has been able to make consistent showings in Code S. GSL takes the most skill because there is far more pressure and because you have to face someone who has had at least a week to prepare to face only you. Stephano may be one of the best Zergs in the world, but he still has to prove himself in the GSL format.
But why having a preparation time makes the match more meaningful skillwise? Naniwa improved his play but he more adapted to the format which is different. I don't think it's as relevant as in BW to have time to prepare. Concerning pressure, it's a lot of pressure for progamers who can't fly around the world & only have one tourney. MC takes it easy as he has many more chances to shine.
I agree this sentence is manipulated numbers but it's made to people to react to it.
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I've just watched the games. In game 1 DRG miss-click corrupters but still he couldn't finish MC even with those corrupters. In game 2 and 3, DRG didnt make mistakes, MC played really sharp IMHO. Maybe in game 3, DRG could have sacrificed the third and stopped MC in the natural's ramp but still in long term it would have turned into a loss since MC could have expand easily. MC just played better.
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On July 20 2012 13:19 nojok wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 10:25 -TesteR- wrote:On July 20 2012 07:54 Chicane wrote:
Not surprising DRG went down 3-0. DRG didn't look too strong against Naniwa, despite Naniwa being weakest in PvZ.
And I don't know why people are so quick to discredit Stephano. His ZvP is probably best in the world, and he continually proves that. The one loss in ZvP that stands out recently as surprising is when he lost to Mana... other than that he has continued to do well against the best, including against MC... a protoss who many call the best PvZer.
It's almost as if some people are like "Oh please Stephano can't be better than a Korean in a match up... it must all be hype despite him having the results." SaSe also beat stephano Also, MC said he didn't prepare at all for Stephano or NASL. ============ It's good to know MC is getting along with Nani, crediting him for his sick new PvZ build. If MC trains with Nani PvP, I see this finals being a swift 4-0. Why do you think it is more skill relevent to win a prepared match than an unprepared one? I agree it takes different skills but MC lost to Nerchio & Stephano in respectively bo5 & bo7 if I'm not mistaken. Besides Stephano & MC obviously studied each other playstyle a lot as they both make the PvZ mu evolve. There are also Naniwa's results in GSL, showing it's not that hard, it makes foreigner average result to be ro8 in the 2 lats code S wich is betetr than Korean globally. I think this hype for GSL comes from BW's OSL & MSL, it was more relevant because those were the only individual leagues & you could tell BW players had a more personal style than SC2 ones & that maps were more different. Atm SC2 maps often have similar gameplay & same can be said for players. TL;DR : I used to see GSL as the only real showcase of skill but I'm not sure of it now, GSL seems as random as any 2 days tourneys. Does it really deserve so much credit?
Why is prepared match more relevant? Because builds are just much sharper in prepared matches and you need to look for your opponents weakness and exploit them. Minor details and nuisances are much more important. It is like playing pick up basketball compare to a league. You could argue that pick up ball has its own skillset but it is general regarded as not as difficult. Or regular season compare to play offs. The dynamics are much more complex and more strategies are involved.
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On July 20 2012 10:22 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 07:15 fishjie wrote:On July 20 2012 03:37 Whatson wrote:On July 20 2012 03:35 fishjie wrote:
ok is stephano pvz seriously better than DRG? cause stephano STOMPED mc at nasl. just STOMPED.
i am in awe Or maybe DRG just plain sucked last night? I feared that this would happen... And what exactly are you in awe of again? stephano. not only the best foreigner at this point, but legit one of the top zerg players. He's always been one of the top Zergs. The question is whether he's the best ZvP now that DRG is underperforming in the match up. One series does not determine this, obviously, but DRG also lost to HerO 2-5 a week ago. I say it give it 2-3 additional tournaments. Too bad DRG is not going to Summer Arena.
I'd say DRG's series against Naniwa would also be considered underperforming. No offense to Naniwa at all, but DRG did not play well in that case. The 'old' DRG would have 3-0'd that series.
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On July 20 2012 10:54 ggrrg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 10:25 -TesteR- wrote:On July 20 2012 07:54 Chicane wrote:
Not surprising DRG went down 3-0. DRG didn't look too strong against Naniwa, despite Naniwa being weakest in PvZ.
And I don't know why people are so quick to discredit Stephano. His ZvP is probably best in the world, and he continually proves that. The one loss in ZvP that stands out recently as surprising is when he lost to Mana... other than that he has continued to do well against the best, including against MC... a protoss who many call the best PvZer.
It's almost as if some people are like "Oh please Stephano can't be better than a Korean in a match up... it must all be hype despite him having the results." SaSe also beat stephano Also, MC said he didn't prepare at all for Stephano or NASL. ============ It's good to know MC is getting along with Nani, crediting him for his sick new PvZ build. If MC trains with Nani PvP, I see this finals being a swift 4-0. The chances for the most volatile matchup to end up in a 4-0 sweep are pretty slim, I'd say. But I also have a feeling that MC will win.
I think PvP actually has a really big chance of being 4-0. It's all about the mindgames, and if you can get in your opponent's head you will crush them, like Genius did to MC and Nestea did to Losira.
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You know this actually funny because in the MC's tribute video, they made a typo (or was it a prophecy?) that until July 2012 Protoss would not win a GSL again. I can't rem if it also stated if the Protoss champion would be a new or MC would reclaim the title.
This reminds back to the Blizzard Cup where in the intro he was the only to hold a glowing orb, and he ended up winning the championship.
GOM Prophecy? or GOM Conspiracy?
XD
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The reason MC lost to Stephano was the maps. Shakuras plateau, Bel'shir Beach, Dual Sight, Shattered Temple? Seriously? Half the pool was 2 base all in or die. If we had GSL maps that aren't absolutely retarded for PvZ MC would have stomped Stephano so hard no one would ever be talking about him again.
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On July 20 2012 13:33 nojok wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 13:24 Stratos_speAr wrote:On July 20 2012 13:19 nojok wrote:On July 20 2012 10:25 -TesteR- wrote:On July 20 2012 07:54 Chicane wrote:
Not surprising DRG went down 3-0. DRG didn't look too strong against Naniwa, despite Naniwa being weakest in PvZ.
And I don't know why people are so quick to discredit Stephano. His ZvP is probably best in the world, and he continually proves that. The one loss in ZvP that stands out recently as surprising is when he lost to Mana... other than that he has continued to do well against the best, including against MC... a protoss who many call the best PvZer.
It's almost as if some people are like "Oh please Stephano can't be better than a Korean in a match up... it must all be hype despite him having the results." SaSe also beat stephano Also, MC said he didn't prepare at all for Stephano or NASL. ============ It's good to know MC is getting along with Nani, crediting him for his sick new PvZ build. If MC trains with Nani PvP, I see this finals being a swift 4-0. Why do you think it is more skill relevent to win a prepared match than an unprepared one? I agree it takes different skills but MC lost to Nerchio & Stephano in respectively bo5 & bo7 if I'm not mistaken. Besides Stephano & MC obviously studied each other playstyle a lot as they both make the PvZ mu evolve. There are also Naniwa's results in GSL, showing it's not that hard, it makes foreigner average result to be ro8 in the 2 lats code S wich is betetr than Korean globally. I think this hype for GSL comes from BW's OSL & MSL, it was more relevant because those were the only individual leagues & you could tell BW players had a more personal style than SC2 ones & that maps were more different. Atm SC2 maps often have similar gameplay & same can be said for players. TL;DR : I used to see GSL as the only real showcase of skill but I'm not sure of it now, GSL seems as random as any 2 days tourneys. Does it really deserve so much credit? Yes it does, and your statement that I put in bold is completely ridiculous. Multiple Koreans get into the top 8 of every major foreign tournament, while one foreigner has been able to make consistent showings in Code S. GSL takes the most skill because there is far more pressure and because you have to face someone who has had at least a week to prepare to face only you. Stephano may be one of the best Zergs in the world, but he still has to prove himself in the GSL format. But why having a preparation time makes the match more meaningful skillwise? Naniwa improved his play but he more adapted to the format which is different. I don't think it's as relevant as in BW to have time to prepare. Concerning pressure, it's a lot of pressure for progamers who can't fly around the world & only have one tourney. MC takes it easy as he has many more chances to shine. I agree this sentence is manipulated numbers but it's made to people to react to it.
matches that allow for preparation time are more meaningful because, at best, they weed out jetlag, fatigue, and other external factors. They also allow for players to study eachother in detail. It's like in MMA for example, the fighter that study, adapt to, and figure out the opponents style is often the one that wins.
Your mention of GSL average (foreigner vs korean) only makes you look stupid.
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On July 20 2012 18:38 karpo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 13:33 nojok wrote:On July 20 2012 13:24 Stratos_speAr wrote:On July 20 2012 13:19 nojok wrote:On July 20 2012 10:25 -TesteR- wrote:On July 20 2012 07:54 Chicane wrote:
Not surprising DRG went down 3-0. DRG didn't look too strong against Naniwa, despite Naniwa being weakest in PvZ.
And I don't know why people are so quick to discredit Stephano. His ZvP is probably best in the world, and he continually proves that. The one loss in ZvP that stands out recently as surprising is when he lost to Mana... other than that he has continued to do well against the best, including against MC... a protoss who many call the best PvZer.
It's almost as if some people are like "Oh please Stephano can't be better than a Korean in a match up... it must all be hype despite him having the results." SaSe also beat stephano Also, MC said he didn't prepare at all for Stephano or NASL. ============ It's good to know MC is getting along with Nani, crediting him for his sick new PvZ build. If MC trains with Nani PvP, I see this finals being a swift 4-0. Why do you think it is more skill relevent to win a prepared match than an unprepared one? I agree it takes different skills but MC lost to Nerchio & Stephano in respectively bo5 & bo7 if I'm not mistaken. Besides Stephano & MC obviously studied each other playstyle a lot as they both make the PvZ mu evolve. There are also Naniwa's results in GSL, showing it's not that hard, it makes foreigner average result to be ro8 in the 2 lats code S wich is betetr than Korean globally. I think this hype for GSL comes from BW's OSL & MSL, it was more relevant because those were the only individual leagues & you could tell BW players had a more personal style than SC2 ones & that maps were more different. Atm SC2 maps often have similar gameplay & same can be said for players. TL;DR : I used to see GSL as the only real showcase of skill but I'm not sure of it now, GSL seems as random as any 2 days tourneys. Does it really deserve so much credit? Yes it does, and your statement that I put in bold is completely ridiculous. Multiple Koreans get into the top 8 of every major foreign tournament, while one foreigner has been able to make consistent showings in Code S. GSL takes the most skill because there is far more pressure and because you have to face someone who has had at least a week to prepare to face only you. Stephano may be one of the best Zergs in the world, but he still has to prove himself in the GSL format. But why having a preparation time makes the match more meaningful skillwise? Naniwa improved his play but he more adapted to the format which is different. I don't think it's as relevant as in BW to have time to prepare. Concerning pressure, it's a lot of pressure for progamers who can't fly around the world & only have one tourney. MC takes it easy as he has many more chances to shine. I agree this sentence is manipulated numbers but it's made to people to react to it. matches that allow for preparation time are more meaningful because, at best, they weed out jetlag, fatigue, and other external factors. They also allow for players to study eachother in detail. It's like in MMA for example, the fighter that study, adapt to, and figure out the opponents style is often the one that wins. Your mention of GSL average (foreigner vs korean) only makes you look stupid.
Except DRG just showed us that he can be tired & that external factors are the same for GSL. There is srtill jetlag but MC has a very nice winrate when he just comes back from foreign events I believe... Besides all players play more or less the same playstyle nowadays, it's all about ingame decision making. That's why Stephano can win with subpar mechanics at pro level & that's also why MC (when he micros he takes 10 decisions a second) is the player with the most money won despite playing the race which had the worst results from the start of SC2.
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On July 20 2012 13:24 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 13:19 nojok wrote:On July 20 2012 10:25 -TesteR- wrote:On July 20 2012 07:54 Chicane wrote:
Not surprising DRG went down 3-0. DRG didn't look too strong against Naniwa, despite Naniwa being weakest in PvZ.
And I don't know why people are so quick to discredit Stephano. His ZvP is probably best in the world, and he continually proves that. The one loss in ZvP that stands out recently as surprising is when he lost to Mana... other than that he has continued to do well against the best, including against MC... a protoss who many call the best PvZer.
It's almost as if some people are like "Oh please Stephano can't be better than a Korean in a match up... it must all be hype despite him having the results." SaSe also beat stephano Also, MC said he didn't prepare at all for Stephano or NASL. ============ It's good to know MC is getting along with Nani, crediting him for his sick new PvZ build. If MC trains with Nani PvP, I see this finals being a swift 4-0. Why do you think it is more skill relevent to win a prepared match than an unprepared one? I agree it takes different skills but MC lost to Nerchio & Stephano in respectively bo5 & bo7 if I'm not mistaken. Besides Stephano & MC obviously studied each other playstyle a lot as they both make the PvZ mu evolve. There are also Naniwa's results in GSL, showing it's not that hard, it makes foreigner average result to be ro8 in the 2 lats code S wich is betetr than Korean globally. I think this hype for GSL comes from BW's OSL & MSL, it was more relevant because those were the only individual leagues & you could tell BW players had a more personal style than SC2 ones & that maps were more different. Atm SC2 maps often have similar gameplay & same can be said for players. TL;DR : I used to see GSL as the only real showcase of skill but I'm not sure of it now, GSL seems as random as any 2 days tourneys. Does it really deserve so much credit? Yes it does, and your statement that I put in bold is completely ridiculous. Multiple Koreans get into the top 8 of every major foreign tournament, while one foreigner has been able to make consistent showings in Code S. GSL takes the most skill because there is far more pressure and because you have to face someone who has had at least a week to prepare to face only you. Stephano may be one of the best Zergs in the world, but he still has to prove himself in the GSL format.
He doesnt have to prove anything. Bank accounts speak for themselves. Besides two months in a foriegn country when he can win same in a weekend is one hell of a sacrifice just to please you.
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On July 20 2012 10:54 ggrrg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 10:25 -TesteR- wrote:On July 20 2012 07:54 Chicane wrote:
Not surprising DRG went down 3-0. DRG didn't look too strong against Naniwa, despite Naniwa being weakest in PvZ.
And I don't know why people are so quick to discredit Stephano. His ZvP is probably best in the world, and he continually proves that. The one loss in ZvP that stands out recently as surprising is when he lost to Mana... other than that he has continued to do well against the best, including against MC... a protoss who many call the best PvZer.
It's almost as if some people are like "Oh please Stephano can't be better than a Korean in a match up... it must all be hype despite him having the results." SaSe also beat stephano Also, MC said he didn't prepare at all for Stephano or NASL. ============ It's good to know MC is getting along with Nani, crediting him for his sick new PvZ build. If MC trains with Nani PvP, I see this finals being a swift 4-0. The chances for the most volatile matchup to end up in a 4-0 sweep are pretty slim, I'd say. But I also have a feeling that MC will win.
PvP is volatile, but imo, it rewards good execution more than any other matchup. You can get some amazing stuff done in PvP if you do it well enough, even at a major BO disadvantage. Yesterday, I saw Naniwa open 1 gate into Stargate, expand, and still defend against 2 gate into twilight into 4 gate blink all-in - should be a BO loss by all accounts, but it's still possible to win. In one of the TL Qualifiers I saw Creator 1 Gate expand against a 4gate, let units up his ramp, and then proceed to keep his Nexus alive and win.
With the way MC's been playing lately, I wouldn't put a 4-0 past him. He'll also be well rested and prepared, since he has no tournaments to play in the meantime (he doesn't, right?).
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On July 20 2012 17:53 Figgy wrote:
The reason MC lost to Stephano was the maps. Shakuras plateau, Bel'shir Beach, Dual Sight, Shattered Temple? Seriously? Half the pool was 2 base all in or die. If we had GSL maps that aren't absolutely retarded for PvZ MC would have stomped Stephano so hard no one would ever be talking about him again.
Stop making excuses for MC losing. Shattered Temple, Dual Sight? These maps were not even played in that series. Stephano did not play a single game on those maps at NASL Finals.
MC lost on Bel'Shir not due to the map, but because he attacked prematurely after getting an economic lead from DT harrass. MC attacked when he did not have enough sentry energy and had 35 army supply less than Stephano. MC went onto creep, ran out of forcefields and got overrun by Roaches. In Shakuras, MC took a third base and he brought all his sentries (bar one) across to his third base. Stephano saw this and attacked the natural and MC did not have the forcefields or army to hold him back. Stephano himself said that if MC had split his army better it would have helped him. MC got outplayed in all the games he lost. Stephano was ruthless and exploited all of MC's mistakes.
Blaming it on maps is just wrong. Stephano played the series much better and convincingly won a Bo7.
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Lol @ all the Stephano fanboys. He already said in an interview he is going to gsl in a few months. I cant wait for all the fangirls to stfu when he gets stomped. Oh and lets not forget the kespa guys coming out soon...Flash already looked beastly at MLG last month when he is still playing Starcraft 1.
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