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Lunchador
Profile Joined April 2010
United States776 Posts
July 19 2012 22:04 GMT
#3641
Man, DRG did not look (physically) healthy in those games at all! Those mid-game pushes he did were amazingly half-hearted, and MC just strong-armed him three times in a row!

MC going to the grand finals! Yesssss, this is going to be so epic! I can't wait to see it!
Defender of truth, justice, and noontime meals!
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
July 19 2012 22:15 GMT
#3642
On July 20 2012 03:37 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 03:35 fishjie wrote:
ok is stephano pvz seriously better than DRG? cause stephano STOMPED mc at nasl. just STOMPED.

i am in awe

Or maybe DRG just plain sucked last night? I feared that this would happen...

And what exactly are you in awe of again?


stephano. not only the best foreigner at this point, but legit one of the top zerg players.
WickedBit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States343 Posts
July 19 2012 22:20 GMT
#3643
On July 20 2012 07:04 Lunchador wrote:
Man, DRG did not look (physically) healthy in those games at all! Those mid-game pushes he did were amazingly half-hearted, and MC just strong-armed him three times in a row!

MC going to the grand finals! Yesssss, this is going to be so epic! I can't wait to see it!


Yeah. Very poor decision making from him in those games. That did not look like DRG at all. Even in game 3 he kept feeding little bits of army to MC instead of just sacrifing the 3rd, consolidating and then going after MCs army. While I thought seed deserved his final spot I feel MC lucked out by facing DRG on a bad day for him.
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 22:38:01
July 19 2012 22:37 GMT
#3644
On July 20 2012 03:35 fishjie wrote:
ok is stephano pvz seriously better than DRG? cause stephano STOMPED mc at nasl. just STOMPED.

i am in awe


What universe do you live in where Stephano stomped MC at NASL? It was 4-2, and the games MC won were completely one-sided and the losses were generally close and decided by one misplay. Maybe you should consider the possibility that one series doesn't determine who the better player is?
power-overwhelming
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada306 Posts
July 19 2012 22:42 GMT
#3645
On July 20 2012 07:37 Heavenlee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 03:35 fishjie wrote:
ok is stephano pvz seriously better than DRG? cause stephano STOMPED mc at nasl. just STOMPED.

i am in awe


What universe do you live in where Stephano stomped MC at NASL? It was 4-2, and the games MC won were completely one-sided and the losses were generally close and decided by one misplay. Maybe you should consider the possibility that one series doesn't determine who the better player is?


it's okay typical stephano bandwagoners.
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 22:46:19
July 19 2012 22:45 GMT
#3646
On July 20 2012 07:42 power-overwhelming wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 07:37 Heavenlee wrote:
On July 20 2012 03:35 fishjie wrote:
ok is stephano pvz seriously better than DRG? cause stephano STOMPED mc at nasl. just STOMPED.

i am in awe


What universe do you live in where Stephano stomped MC at NASL? It was 4-2, and the games MC won were completely one-sided and the losses were generally close and decided by one misplay. Maybe you should consider the possibility that one series doesn't determine who the better player is?


it's okay typical stephano bandwagoners.


Seriously, I knew the second DRG lost the rest of this LR would be about Stephano. Remember, losing one series makes you the inferior player. Such as Byun beating Seed in groups but falling 3-1 in the ro4. Or MC 3-0'ing DRG one day at an MLG then getting 3-0'd or 3-1'd the next day. And 3-0'ing him today, because DRG is clearly a scrub. So on and so on. The best player in the world is decided every single new series played apparently, because if you don't have a 100% win rate you are nothing.
Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
July 19 2012 22:48 GMT
#3647
On July 20 2012 07:45 Heavenlee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 07:42 power-overwhelming wrote:
On July 20 2012 07:37 Heavenlee wrote:
On July 20 2012 03:35 fishjie wrote:
ok is stephano pvz seriously better than DRG? cause stephano STOMPED mc at nasl. just STOMPED.

i am in awe


What universe do you live in where Stephano stomped MC at NASL? It was 4-2, and the games MC won were completely one-sided and the losses were generally close and decided by one misplay. Maybe you should consider the possibility that one series doesn't determine who the better player is?


it's okay typical stephano bandwagoners.


Seriously, I knew the second DRG lost the rest of this LR would be about Stephano. Remember, losing one series makes you the inferior player. Such as Byun beating Seed in groups but falling 3-1 in the ro4. Or MC 3-0'ing DRG one day at an MLG then getting 3-0'd or 3-1'd the next day. And 3-0'ing him today, because DRG is clearly a scrub. So on and so on. The best player in the world is decided every single new series played apparently, because if you don't have a 100% win rate you are nothing.


Dont forget the best player by transitivity! I really hate what this forum has become...
Amove for Aiur
power-overwhelming
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada306 Posts
July 19 2012 22:48 GMT
#3648
On July 20 2012 03:33 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 03:21 Benjamin99 wrote:
On July 20 2012 02:44 Incomplet wrote:
On July 20 2012 01:17 Geegeez wrote:
OMG I didn't think MC would win with all the travel and the recent loss to Stephano! Congrats to Seed as well!


Id say he lost to Stephano only because

a) he was tired from all the jet lag
b) he was practicing for Drg, and was just doing nasl for pocket money
c) he purposely didnt reveal his strategies so that drg would have a hard time predicting what he may do


Lol MC didnt use new strategies he played like he allways do. His build on Ohana and Daybreak was identical to a build he did vs Stephano. Standard Stargate (1 Void ray ~4 Phoenix) into 3 Immortals into Colossus 3 base timing. Stephano just crushed it DRG did not

Its hillarious the excuses some people do lol. Stephano got the best ZvP´ in the world and you could really see the difference between him and DRG in that serie


Actually, since Syz beat mana 2-0 and mana beat Stephano 2-0, Syz has the best ZvP. You could really see the difference between Syz and Stephano from those series.


/end thread
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
July 19 2012 22:54 GMT
#3649
Not surprising DRG went down 3-0. DRG didn't look too strong against Naniwa, despite Naniwa being weakest in PvZ.

And I don't know why people are so quick to discredit Stephano. His ZvP is probably best in the world, and he continually proves that. The one loss in ZvP that stands out recently as surprising is when he lost to Mana... other than that he has continued to do well against the best, including against MC... a protoss who many call the best PvZer.

It's almost as if some people are like "Oh please Stephano can't be better than a Korean in a match up... it must all be hype despite him having the results."
jestlolk
Profile Joined May 2011
62 Posts
July 19 2012 23:00 GMT
#3650
MC also looked to be playing a considerable amount better than he did at NASL3 or HSCV, specifically his reactions to the attempted roach pressure at his third on Ohana. The two forcefield concaves he made perfectly in a millisecond while running away were truly reminiscent of him in his prime.
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 23:03:17
July 19 2012 23:00 GMT
#3651
On July 20 2012 07:54 Chicane wrote:
Not surprising DRG went down 3-0. DRG didn't look too strong against Naniwa, despite Naniwa being weakest in PvZ.

And I don't know why people are so quick to discredit Stephano. His ZvP is probably best in the world, and he continually proves that. The one loss in ZvP that stands out recently as surprising is when he lost to Mana... other than that he has continued to do well against the best, including against MC... a protoss who many call the best PvZer.

It's almost as if some people are like "Oh please Stephano can't be better than a Korean in a match up... it must all be hype despite him having the results."


No one is discrediting him, I'm just annoyed by people who feel the need to come into a thread and randomly talk about how he's so amazing. I don't see anyone in here saying that Stephano hasn't done well in ZvP or that he's a top zerg. It's just complete fanboying---I"ll be the first to admit I'm a huge MC fanboy but I don't go into random threads and go "MC would have beat this guy/beat him recently, MC is better than [player]nowadays wow, best PvZ/PvT/PvP in the world." It's just obnoxious. Stephano fans are replacing the rabid IdrA fanboys of 2011.
Lewan72
Profile Joined April 2011
United States381 Posts
July 19 2012 23:03 GMT
#3652
On July 20 2012 07:54 Chicane wrote:
Not surprising DRG went down 3-0. DRG didn't look too strong against Naniwa, despite Naniwa being weakest in PvZ.

And I don't know why people are so quick to discredit Stephano. His ZvP is probably best in the world, and he continually proves that. The one loss in ZvP that stands out recently as surprising is when he lost to Mana... other than that he has continued to do well against the best, including against MC... a protoss who many call the best PvZer.

It's almost as if some people are like "Oh please Stephano can't be better than a Korean in a match up... it must all be hype despite him having the results."


Stephano only had NASL while MC had GSL NASL and homestory.
Stephano didn't have to hide strategies/builds for GSL semi-finals.
MC had a winning record against Stephano before the event.
MC has won 3 tournaments and 2 thirds place finishes and most likely a GSL win. Stephano has had maybe 2/3 tournament wins and WCS France was kind of weak.

Stephano beating MC 4-2 does NOT mean that he is the superior player....jeeze.
MC / Hero / MMA / Bomber / Coca / Suppy
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
July 19 2012 23:05 GMT
#3653
No... this.. cannot be...
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
vandelayindustries
Profile Joined August 2011
United States290 Posts
July 19 2012 23:15 GMT
#3654
I don't know if this was addressed earlier in the thread (I'm just now catching the VODs, just finished the Seed vs Byun series) but what was the small screen in Byun's booth? It was hard to tell but it looked like it had the stream on it.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
July 19 2012 23:27 GMT
#3655
On July 20 2012 08:03 Lewan72 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 07:54 Chicane wrote:
Not surprising DRG went down 3-0. DRG didn't look too strong against Naniwa, despite Naniwa being weakest in PvZ.

And I don't know why people are so quick to discredit Stephano. His ZvP is probably best in the world, and he continually proves that. The one loss in ZvP that stands out recently as surprising is when he lost to Mana... other than that he has continued to do well against the best, including against MC... a protoss who many call the best PvZer.

It's almost as if some people are like "Oh please Stephano can't be better than a Korean in a match up... it must all be hype despite him having the results."


Stephano only had NASL while MC had GSL NASL and homestory.
Stephano didn't have to hide strategies/builds for GSL semi-finals.
MC had a winning record against Stephano before the event.
MC has won 3 tournaments and 2 thirds place finishes and most likely a GSL win. Stephano has had maybe 2/3 tournament wins and WCS France was kind of weak.

Stephano beating MC 4-2 does NOT mean that he is the superior player....jeeze.


I never said he was better than MC. I was just making a point that it is fair to believe his ZvP is the best in the world. People are free to disagree, but I don't see why people seem to discredit it as if it isn't even a possibility.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 19 2012 23:40 GMT
#3656
Wow, a Protoss GSL champion
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
CursivE
Profile Joined February 2012
Australia317 Posts
July 19 2012 23:50 GMT
#3657
On July 16 2012 15:00 CursivE wrote:
These threads are getting so awesome. Top notch O.P., opterown.

For some reason I feel like it's going to be a PvP final and that there will be an inordinate amount of complaining about it.

However, I'm cheering for MC and Byun! These games should be so interesting.


Well, for once I got my predictions right.

Come on MC, show Seed why you are the Protoss President.
MC || HuK || MMA || Squirtle || TLO || Sea || HerO || MarineKing || MVP || NesTea
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
July 20 2012 00:04 GMT
#3658
On July 20 2012 07:42 power-overwhelming wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 07:37 Heavenlee wrote:
On July 20 2012 03:35 fishjie wrote:
ok is stephano pvz seriously better than DRG? cause stephano STOMPED mc at nasl. just STOMPED.

i am in awe


What universe do you live in where Stephano stomped MC at NASL? It was 4-2, and the games MC won were completely one-sided and the losses were generally close and decided by one misplay. Maybe you should consider the possibility that one series doesn't determine who the better player is?


it's okay typical stephano bandwagoners.


i'm not even in his fan club please try again. i was actually rooting for MC to win.

stephano has had nothing but consistent results and that's all i care about. he's one of the top zergs and that's all there is to it. is he better than MC or DRG? MC beat him at red bull, but stephano got his revenge, so only time will tell. however, he is definitely able to win against a gsl champion no problem.
truewt
Profile Joined June 2008
Singapore121 Posts
July 20 2012 00:17 GMT
#3659
On July 20 2012 09:04 fishjie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 07:42 power-overwhelming wrote:
On July 20 2012 07:37 Heavenlee wrote:
On July 20 2012 03:35 fishjie wrote:
ok is stephano pvz seriously better than DRG? cause stephano STOMPED mc at nasl. just STOMPED.

i am in awe


What universe do you live in where Stephano stomped MC at NASL? It was 4-2, and the games MC won were completely one-sided and the losses were generally close and decided by one misplay. Maybe you should consider the possibility that one series doesn't determine who the better player is?


it's okay typical stephano bandwagoners.


i'm not even in his fan club please try again. i was actually rooting for MC to win.

stephano has had nothing but consistent results and that's all i care about. he's one of the top zergs and that's all there is to it. is he better than MC or DRG? MC beat him at red bull, but stephano got his revenge, so only time will tell. however, he is definitely able to win against a gsl champion no problem.


the problem is to avoid bringing that topic up, this is an LR thread.
for Adun!
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
July 20 2012 00:33 GMT
#3660
OMG I JUST WATCHED THE VODS!! I am HAVING THE BIGGEST CHILLS IN OVER A YEAR!! MC will win finally!
Long live the Boss Toss!
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