EPT[NASL] Season 3 Finals Day 1 - Page 395
| Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments |
|
ZenithM
France15952 Posts
| ||
|
mlspmatt
Canada404 Posts
On July 15 2012 11:03 Housemd wrote: What do you mean by recent patches? The one with the queen buff? Because that has little to no effect in PvT. Well, Zergs are scouting everything now. The speed buff onn overlords isn't talked about much but has made a huge difference. | ||
|
BuddhaMonk
781 Posts
On July 15 2012 11:03 ZenithM wrote: Shhhh don't say it like that. We call it "figuring things out" around here. Yeah it was funny after the infestor buff how Zergs everywhere were boasting about "figuring things out". When you plot out the patch changes to win-rates things suddenly become much more apparent. | ||
|
Lukeeze[zR]
Switzerland6838 Posts
On July 15 2012 11:06 happyness wrote: Wait, the queen change didnt affect the air attack range, did it? yes and no. No because the range remains the same, yes because now zergs go for 6397694 queens before lair, so sky terran/protoss gets thougher | ||
|
Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On July 15 2012 11:06 ZenithM wrote: 75 drones at 10 minutes. I think he will start producing attacking units now and try to kill Protoss. Don't be silly. This is Ret. | ||
|
Slakter
Sweden1947 Posts
On July 15 2012 11:04 the`postman wrote: Actually late game big maps are pretty terrible for zerg. That's a very simplistic way to see it. I would say that the pattern of the expands (especially the third) makes a lot more of a difference than size. | ||
|
Toadvine
Poland2234 Posts
Kind of a pity. Say what you will about GomTvT, but at least Terran play looked like it required skill to pull off. And TvT is actually a very cool matchup. | ||
|
Pyre
United States1940 Posts
On July 15 2012 11:06 happyness wrote: Wait, the queen change didnt affect the air attack range, did it? The change just made zergs realize how good queens are. | ||
|
Rockafella
United Kingdom291 Posts
| ||
|
RiZu
Singapore5715 Posts
| ||
|
Heavenlee
United States966 Posts
On July 15 2012 11:07 mlspmatt wrote: Well, Zergs are scouting everything now. The speed buff onn overlords isn't talked about much but has made a huge difference. Wait until more zergs start doing basic micro things people like Stephano do such as flanks and focus firing. I miss the good old days when every zerg would smash himself against forcefields for no reason while 4 colossi hit them, when they made 80 drones before starting a single attack/armor upgrade, and when they would do all-in attacks versus protoss but just have their roaches/lings randomly spread their damage across seven buildings doing nothing. | ||
|
FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
| ||
|
Housemd
United States1407 Posts
On July 15 2012 11:07 mlspmatt wrote: Well, Zergs are scouting everything now. The speed buff onn overlords isn't talked about much but has made a huge difference. I have always thought that there is a certain timing to when Zerg scouts with overlords to see 2 base allin. Around 6 minutes? Also, late game is pretty boring because most often zerg chooses spire and protoss is forced to counter with Mothership. Really not that much scouting there. And placing overlords to deny expansions has been around since the start of release (a little after at the most). Overlord speed change hasn't made THAT much of a difference. But I'm curious as to why you saw its made a huge difference. | ||
|
dragonborn
4781 Posts
On July 15 2012 11:09 FuzzyJAM wrote: Why is Alicia using Huk's account? Because he dont have account on NA server? | ||
|
c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
| ||
|
Zebb
United States834 Posts
On July 15 2012 11:02 mlspmatt wrote: Really? And the recent patches had nothing to do with Zergs quality play of late? Yea the queen change has Terrans pretty boned right now, but it takes a long time for new things to get figured out. I think Terran can work it out given some more time. I'm more concerned about the roach/ling -> infestor -> broodlord path that is owning up ZvP right now, and I think better injects are bringing that strategy to a higher level and that an adjustment may be needed. But of course I'm not GM player so my opinion is pretty irrelevant!  | ||
|
ggplaydong
Canada13 Posts
| ||
|
ZenithM
France15952 Posts
| ||
|
c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
Zealots chasing down infestors | ||
|
Toadvine
Poland2234 Posts
On July 15 2012 11:09 Heavenlee wrote: Wait until more zergs start doing basic micro things people like Stephano do such as flanks and focus firing. I miss the good old days when every zerg would smash himself against forcefields for no reason while 4 colossi hit them, when they made 80 drones before starting a single attack/armor upgrade, and when they would do all-in attacks versus protoss but just have their roaches/lings randomly spread their damage across seven buildings doing nothing. Why would they do any of these things when they can win just as well without them? | ||
| ||
