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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32750 Posts
July 15 2012 02:14 GMT
#7921
And to think Alicia did all of that with only +2 attack.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Dwayn
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany949 Posts
July 15 2012 02:14 GMT
#7922
alica didnt take the gas at his 4th....
the`postman
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1643 Posts
July 15 2012 02:15 GMT
#7923
On July 15 2012 11:13 Heavenlee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 11:11 the`postman wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:09 Heavenlee wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:07 mlspmatt wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:03 Housemd wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:02 mlspmatt wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:00 Zebb wrote:
On July 15 2012 10:56 Noocta wrote:
On July 15 2012 10:55 KingRajesh wrote:
The warp prism on that map is so garbage.

Can't believe Shakuras is still in a map pool


Can I say something ?
Maps in general are getting too zerg friendly.


Whoa there, careful, you could get knifed around here saying something like that.

Seriously though, I think overall balance is in a pretty good place, but I think top zergs are getting better at hitting their late-game injects and so things are shifting in their favor a bit.


Really? And the recent patches had nothing to do with Zergs quality play of late?


What do you mean by recent patches? The one with the queen buff? Because that has little to no effect in PvT.

Well, Zergs are scouting everything now. The speed buff onn overlords isn't talked about much but has made a huge difference.


Wait until more zergs start doing basic micro things people like Stephano do such as flanks and focus firing. I miss the good old days when every zerg would smash himself against forcefields for no reason while 4 colossi hit them, when they made 80 drones before starting a single attack/armor upgrade, and when they would do all-in attacks versus protoss but just have their roaches/lings randomly spread their damage across seven buildings doing nothing.

Yeah man everyone that plays Zerg is just bad at the game, Terran and Protoss are all clearly superior players.


Because that's what I said right?

Did you miss the part of Ret v Puzzle where he had like ten roaches next to a nexus with about 100 health? When he just smashed himself against the forcefields during Alicia's attack on Shakuras? Clearly those are just stupid mistakes that, if he actually exerted the basic micro/decision making that the other races are expected to do, would make him look much better.

And Alicia has messed up his forcefields every single, and kept all of his units on one control group to defend against mutas.

Players aren't perfect, what's your point?
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
July 15 2012 02:15 GMT
#7924
On July 15 2012 11:11 the`postman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 11:09 Heavenlee wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:07 mlspmatt wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:03 Housemd wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:02 mlspmatt wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:00 Zebb wrote:
On July 15 2012 10:56 Noocta wrote:
On July 15 2012 10:55 KingRajesh wrote:
The warp prism on that map is so garbage.

Can't believe Shakuras is still in a map pool


Can I say something ?
Maps in general are getting too zerg friendly.


Whoa there, careful, you could get knifed around here saying something like that.

Seriously though, I think overall balance is in a pretty good place, but I think top zergs are getting better at hitting their late-game injects and so things are shifting in their favor a bit.


Really? And the recent patches had nothing to do with Zergs quality play of late?


What do you mean by recent patches? The one with the queen buff? Because that has little to no effect in PvT.

Well, Zergs are scouting everything now. The speed buff onn overlords isn't talked about much but has made a huge difference.


Wait until more zergs start doing basic micro things people like Stephano do such as flanks and focus firing. I miss the good old days when every zerg would smash himself against forcefields for no reason while 4 colossi hit them, when they made 80 drones before starting a single attack/armor upgrade, and when they would do all-in attacks versus protoss but just have their roaches/lings randomly spread their damage across seven buildings doing nothing.

Yeah man everyone that plays Zerg is just bad at the game, Terran and Protoss are all clearly superior players.


There's a majority of zergs player who dont micro their battle as much and focus more on macro during that time.
If they could do both, it's a huge beneficit for them.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
July 15 2012 02:15 GMT
#7925
No Ret dont do this to me you were up 2 games
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
July 15 2012 02:15 GMT
#7926
yeaah Alicia!
2-2 up~~~~~
Mmm, what to watch.
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
July 15 2012 02:16 GMT
#7927
On July 15 2012 11:15 the`postman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 11:13 Heavenlee wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:11 the`postman wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:09 Heavenlee wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:07 mlspmatt wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:03 Housemd wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:02 mlspmatt wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:00 Zebb wrote:
On July 15 2012 10:56 Noocta wrote:
On July 15 2012 10:55 KingRajesh wrote:
The warp prism on that map is so garbage.

Can't believe Shakuras is still in a map pool


Can I say something ?
Maps in general are getting too zerg friendly.


Whoa there, careful, you could get knifed around here saying something like that.

Seriously though, I think overall balance is in a pretty good place, but I think top zergs are getting better at hitting their late-game injects and so things are shifting in their favor a bit.


Really? And the recent patches had nothing to do with Zergs quality play of late?


What do you mean by recent patches? The one with the queen buff? Because that has little to no effect in PvT.

Well, Zergs are scouting everything now. The speed buff onn overlords isn't talked about much but has made a huge difference.


Wait until more zergs start doing basic micro things people like Stephano do such as flanks and focus firing. I miss the good old days when every zerg would smash himself against forcefields for no reason while 4 colossi hit them, when they made 80 drones before starting a single attack/armor upgrade, and when they would do all-in attacks versus protoss but just have their roaches/lings randomly spread their damage across seven buildings doing nothing.

Yeah man everyone that plays Zerg is just bad at the game, Terran and Protoss are all clearly superior players.


Because that's what I said right?

Did you miss the part of Ret v Puzzle where he had like ten roaches next to a nexus with about 100 health? When he just smashed himself against the forcefields during Alicia's attack on Shakuras? Clearly those are just stupid mistakes that, if he actually exerted the basic micro/decision making that the other races are expected to do, would make him look much better.

And Alicia has messed up his forcefields every single, and kept all of his units on one control group to defend against mutas.

Players aren't perfect, what's your point?


My point was the exact statement I made---wait until zergs start to utilize the basic micro/positioning things I mentioned? You're the one turning this into a complete random tangent.
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-15 02:16:40
July 15 2012 02:16 GMT
#7928
--- Nuked ---
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
July 15 2012 02:16 GMT
#7929
More zealot harassment from Alicia.
iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
July 15 2012 02:16 GMT
#7930
<3 Warp prism
TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
July 15 2012 02:16 GMT
#7931
watching games from Ret can be so painful
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8313 Posts
July 15 2012 02:16 GMT
#7932
I REALLY hope Ret gets his act together for the rest of this series. MC vs Alicia would be a great third place match, and I love me some ZvZ lately for the finals.

But back to back PvZ when it's looking like the WCS might be that as well? Gag me with a spoon...
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
July 15 2012 02:16 GMT
#7933
Why don't zergs research NP before they see a mothership? I mean the meta game is such that the mothership is to be expected almost everytime.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
July 15 2012 02:17 GMT
#7934
why hasnt alicia killed ret yet.... gosh
mythandier
Profile Joined January 2011
United States828 Posts
July 15 2012 02:17 GMT
#7935
Vortex is so insanely powerful...good thing it's cheaper than HSM energy-wise -.-
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
July 15 2012 02:17 GMT
#7936
On July 15 2012 11:16 monkybone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 11:15 Noocta wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:11 the`postman wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:09 Heavenlee wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:07 mlspmatt wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:03 Housemd wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:02 mlspmatt wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:00 Zebb wrote:
On July 15 2012 10:56 Noocta wrote:
On July 15 2012 10:55 KingRajesh wrote:
The warp prism on that map is so garbage.

Can't believe Shakuras is still in a map pool


Can I say something ?
Maps in general are getting too zerg friendly.


Whoa there, careful, you could get knifed around here saying something like that.

Seriously though, I think overall balance is in a pretty good place, but I think top zergs are getting better at hitting their late-game injects and so things are shifting in their favor a bit.


Really? And the recent patches had nothing to do with Zergs quality play of late?


What do you mean by recent patches? The one with the queen buff? Because that has little to no effect in PvT.

Well, Zergs are scouting everything now. The speed buff onn overlords isn't talked about much but has made a huge difference.


Wait until more zergs start doing basic micro things people like Stephano do such as flanks and focus firing. I miss the good old days when every zerg would smash himself against forcefields for no reason while 4 colossi hit them, when they made 80 drones before starting a single attack/armor upgrade, and when they would do all-in attacks versus protoss but just have their roaches/lings randomly spread their damage across seven buildings doing nothing.

Yeah man everyone that plays Zerg is just bad at the game, Terran and Protoss are all clearly superior players.


There's a majority of zergs player who dont micro their battle as much and focus more on macro during that time.
If they could do both, it's a huge beneficit for them.


Look at stephano. Constantly microing.


For me, it explain a lot of his succes in ZvP.
He spread against vortex, he focus fire a lot in battles.
Zerg player use to never do that, having the feel that macroing more instead was better. But both is better, just harder.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
July 15 2012 02:17 GMT
#7937
byebye hive
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
July 15 2012 02:17 GMT
#7938
Horrible stuff. Alicia is outclassing Ret with his multitasking here.
iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
July 15 2012 02:17 GMT
#7939
Alicia now has 2 huge advantages in this game.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 15 2012 02:18 GMT
#7940
I keep popping in and out of the tournament stream and I see Alicia looks like hes about to tie it up D: Come on ret!
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