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the`postman
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1643 Posts
July 15 2012 02:11 GMT
#7901
On July 15 2012 11:09 Heavenlee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 11:07 mlspmatt wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:03 Housemd wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:02 mlspmatt wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:00 Zebb wrote:
On July 15 2012 10:56 Noocta wrote:
On July 15 2012 10:55 KingRajesh wrote:
The warp prism on that map is so garbage.

Can't believe Shakuras is still in a map pool


Can I say something ?
Maps in general are getting too zerg friendly.


Whoa there, careful, you could get knifed around here saying something like that.

Seriously though, I think overall balance is in a pretty good place, but I think top zergs are getting better at hitting their late-game injects and so things are shifting in their favor a bit.


Really? And the recent patches had nothing to do with Zergs quality play of late?


What do you mean by recent patches? The one with the queen buff? Because that has little to no effect in PvT.

Well, Zergs are scouting everything now. The speed buff onn overlords isn't talked about much but has made a huge difference.


Wait until more zergs start doing basic micro things people like Stephano do such as flanks and focus firing. I miss the good old days when every zerg would smash himself against forcefields for no reason while 4 colossi hit them, when they made 80 drones before starting a single attack/armor upgrade, and when they would do all-in attacks versus protoss but just have their roaches/lings randomly spread their damage across seven buildings doing nothing.

Yeah man everyone that plays Zerg is just bad at the game, Terran and Protoss are all clearly superior players.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
July 15 2012 02:11 GMT
#7902
Looks like HerO's spirit of Warp Prism harrass moved on to Alicia.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
July 15 2012 02:12 GMT
#7903
that kind of attack was that???
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
July 15 2012 02:12 GMT
#7904
Alicia looking mighty big
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
July 15 2012 02:12 GMT
#7905
Hmm does Ret have horrible multitasking or what?
Whoranzone
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany330 Posts
July 15 2012 02:12 GMT
#7906
On July 15 2012 11:11 c0ldfusion wrote:
Alicia holds.
Zealots chasing down infestors

at least one full energy infestor.
Packawana
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1081 Posts
July 15 2012 02:12 GMT
#7907
Ret just threw this game. -.-
"May all your dreaming fill the empty sky."
mlspmatt
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada404 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-15 02:13:40
July 15 2012 02:12 GMT
#7908
On July 15 2012 11:10 Housemd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 11:07 mlspmatt wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:03 Housemd wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:02 mlspmatt wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:00 Zebb wrote:
On July 15 2012 10:56 Noocta wrote:
On July 15 2012 10:55 KingRajesh wrote:
The warp prism on that map is so garbage.

Can't believe Shakuras is still in a map pool


Can I say something ?
Maps in general are getting too zerg friendly.


Whoa there, careful, you could get knifed around here saying something like that.

Seriously though, I think overall balance is in a pretty good place, but I think top zergs are getting better at hitting their late-game injects and so things are shifting in their favor a bit.


Really? And the recent patches had nothing to do with Zergs quality play of late?


What do you mean by recent patches? The one with the queen buff? Because that has little to no effect in PvT.

Well, Zergs are scouting everything now. The speed buff onn overlords isn't talked about much but has made a huge difference.


I have always thought that there is a certain timing to when Zerg scouts with overlords to see 2 base allin. Around 6 minutes? Also, late game is pretty boring because most often zerg chooses spire and protoss is forced to counter with Mothership. Really not that much scouting there. And placing overlords to deny expansions has been around since the start of release (a little after at the most). Overlord speed change hasn't made THAT much of a difference.


But I'm curious as to why you saw its made a huge difference.

because they're now catching things they never use to. The 2 base Toss aggression builds are being scouted far more frequently than they used to. That little extra speed can make the difference in catching everything, and not seeing what you need to.
Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
July 15 2012 02:12 GMT
#7909
Ret is frustrating to watch. Mistakes in every game and it seems wins mostly either thanks to a huge advantage or broodlords.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-15 02:13:24
July 15 2012 02:12 GMT
#7910
Oh come on Ret, attacking with Lings/Hydras/Infestors/Corruptors? No Brood Lords whatsoever?

Please don't throw this away like you do sometimes.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
July 15 2012 02:13 GMT
#7911
On July 15 2012 11:11 the`postman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 11:09 Heavenlee wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:07 mlspmatt wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:03 Housemd wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:02 mlspmatt wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:00 Zebb wrote:
On July 15 2012 10:56 Noocta wrote:
On July 15 2012 10:55 KingRajesh wrote:
The warp prism on that map is so garbage.

Can't believe Shakuras is still in a map pool


Can I say something ?
Maps in general are getting too zerg friendly.


Whoa there, careful, you could get knifed around here saying something like that.

Seriously though, I think overall balance is in a pretty good place, but I think top zergs are getting better at hitting their late-game injects and so things are shifting in their favor a bit.


Really? And the recent patches had nothing to do with Zergs quality play of late?


What do you mean by recent patches? The one with the queen buff? Because that has little to no effect in PvT.

Well, Zergs are scouting everything now. The speed buff onn overlords isn't talked about much but has made a huge difference.


Wait until more zergs start doing basic micro things people like Stephano do such as flanks and focus firing. I miss the good old days when every zerg would smash himself against forcefields for no reason while 4 colossi hit them, when they made 80 drones before starting a single attack/armor upgrade, and when they would do all-in attacks versus protoss but just have their roaches/lings randomly spread their damage across seven buildings doing nothing.

Yeah man everyone that plays Zerg is just bad at the game, Terran and Protoss are all clearly superior players.


Because that's what I said right?

Did you miss the part of Ret v Puzzle where he had like ten roaches next to a nexus with about 100 health? When he just smashed himself against the forcefields during Alicia's attack on Shakuras? Clearly those are just stupid mistakes that, if he actually exerted the basic micro/decision making that the other races are expected to do, would make him look much better.
ZeratuLsc2
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada426 Posts
July 15 2012 02:13 GMT
#7912
"He should be able to get it up"
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
July 15 2012 02:13 GMT
#7913
uh oh

time to flush
iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
July 15 2012 02:13 GMT
#7914
OMG, all dead.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
July 15 2012 02:14 GMT
#7915
SICKEST VORTEX!

I eat your armay!
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
July 15 2012 02:14 GMT
#7916
Cool Alicia got some sick bank.
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
July 15 2012 02:14 GMT
#7917
That felt pretty good!
Someone call down the Thunder?
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
July 15 2012 02:14 GMT
#7918
Ret is doing the Ret. He's going to lose 4-2 now.
Housemd
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1407 Posts
July 15 2012 02:14 GMT
#7919
On July 15 2012 11:12 mlspmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 11:10 Housemd wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:07 mlspmatt wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:03 Housemd wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:02 mlspmatt wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:00 Zebb wrote:
On July 15 2012 10:56 Noocta wrote:
On July 15 2012 10:55 KingRajesh wrote:
The warp prism on that map is so garbage.

Can't believe Shakuras is still in a map pool


Can I say something ?
Maps in general are getting too zerg friendly.


Whoa there, careful, you could get knifed around here saying something like that.

Seriously though, I think overall balance is in a pretty good place, but I think top zergs are getting better at hitting their late-game injects and so things are shifting in their favor a bit.


Really? And the recent patches had nothing to do with Zergs quality play of late?


What do you mean by recent patches? The one with the queen buff? Because that has little to no effect in PvT.

Well, Zergs are scouting everything now. The speed buff onn overlords isn't talked about much but has made a huge difference.


I have always thought that there is a certain timing to when Zerg scouts with overlords to see 2 base allin. Around 6 minutes? Also, late game is pretty boring because most often zerg chooses spire and protoss is forced to counter with Mothership. Really not that much scouting there. And placing overlords to deny expansions has been around since the start of release (a little after at the most). Overlord speed change hasn't made THAT much of a difference.


But I'm curious as to why you saw its made a huge difference.

because they're now catching things they never use to. The 2 base Toss aggression builds are being scouted far more frequently than they used to.


They should of always been scouted. Any good zerg player will have two overlords which even in slow overlord days would scout 2 base allin. Plus a ling at the third helps too.
Fantasy is a beast
iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
July 15 2012 02:14 GMT
#7920
Going to the toilet always feels good.
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