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Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
July 15 2012 02:20 GMT
#7961
On July 15 2012 11:18 apes wrote:
pretty telling of balance when a player like ret gets this far.

I am not going to say the game is not balanced, but it is dumb to see players win thanks to that mass broodlords.

It seems the goal is to get there every game and then...

But Alicia seems to have a solution for Ret. He just makes him multitask, which seems to be too much for Ret, and he ends up making terrible mistakes in the battle and get vortexed.
refmac_cys.cys
Profile Joined June 2010
United States177 Posts
July 15 2012 02:20 GMT
#7962
Zergies haven't won a game on Daybreak this tourney, protoss has only taken two maps off of zerg outside it. :0
my helicopter example is less stupid than your helicopter example - Liquid'Drone
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
July 15 2012 02:20 GMT
#7963
On July 15 2012 11:20 Disengaged wrote:
Can anyone tell me the result of Stephano vs Hero?


3-1
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
July 15 2012 02:20 GMT
#7964
On July 15 2012 11:19 Toadvine wrote:
I wonder how many games it'll take for Ret to realize that Hydras are not what he needs against a single Stargate.


Don't over estimate the power os stuberness.
Took a year and a half for people to realize that when you just defend with queens and spore against startage, you dont get crushed by the following colossus attack.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Sitinte
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States499 Posts
July 15 2012 02:21 GMT
#7965
Gogo Alicia, channel MMA's drop multitask.
slicknav
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
July 15 2012 02:21 GMT
#7966
OH YEA! NAIR AD!
blah blah blah...
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-15 02:22:06
July 15 2012 02:21 GMT
#7967
--- Nuked ---
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
July 15 2012 02:21 GMT
#7968
On July 15 2012 11:20 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 11:20 Disengaged wrote:
Can anyone tell me the result of Stephano vs Hero?


3-1


Thanx ya
iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
July 15 2012 02:21 GMT
#7969
Music keeps getting better and better.
the`postman
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1643 Posts
July 15 2012 02:22 GMT
#7970
On July 15 2012 11:20 Xxavi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 11:18 apes wrote:
pretty telling of balance when a player like ret gets this far.

I am not going to say the game is not balanced, but it is dumb to see players win thanks to that mass broodlords.

It seems the goal is to get there every game and then...

But Alicia seems to have a solution for Ret. He just makes him multitask, which seems to be too much for Ret, and he ends up making terrible mistakes in the battle and get vortexed.

Why is it dumb to see people win due to a t3 unit?
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
July 15 2012 02:22 GMT
#7971
On July 15 2012 11:21 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 11:20 Benjamin99 wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:20 Disengaged wrote:
Can anyone tell me the result of Stephano vs Hero?


3-1


Thanx ya

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/North_American_Star_League_Season_3#Main_Event_Bracket

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refmac_cys.cys
Profile Joined June 2010
United States177 Posts
July 15 2012 02:22 GMT
#7972
On July 15 2012 11:20 Xxavi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 11:18 apes wrote:
pretty telling of balance when a player like ret gets this far.

I am not going to say the game is not balanced, but it is dumb to see players win thanks to that mass broodlords.

It seems the goal is to get there every game and then...

But Alicia seems to have a solution for Ret. He just makes him multitask, which seems to be too much for Ret, and he ends up making terrible mistakes in the battle and get vortexed.

Not arguing, but it's also dumb to see someone win just because they got a vortex off. I just don't like the dynamic. Hopefully we'll see more protoss going carriers!
my helicopter example is less stupid than your helicopter example - Liquid'Drone
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-15 02:24:19
July 15 2012 02:22 GMT
#7973
On July 15 2012 11:20 MCDayC wrote:
Ret is supposed to be the mechanical macro zerg, but his multitasking and map awareness does not seem up to par, this is the 2nd game on Daybreak where drops have torn him apart.


Players aren't perfect and sometimes they get nervous. Flustered, which can make them look worse. Whats with all the criticism on player skill being thrown around in this thread? They are just humans and they fuck up just like every other person.
"Right on" - Morrow
Barez
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada123 Posts
July 15 2012 02:23 GMT
#7974
i want ret to win, but hate zvz lol :D
Far Beyond Driven
tranmillitary
Profile Joined August 2011
210 Posts
July 15 2012 02:23 GMT
#7975
On July 15 2012 11:18 apes wrote:
pretty telling of balance when a player like ret gets this far.


I like Ret don't get me wrong, but i feel like he's miles behind top players. He's one of the best zerg foreigners but his micro is really lacking. I never get excited when watching his games in most part because he never does anything extraordinary. He plays standard all game.

Zergs are really strong in the meta game right now, but after the next patch i feel like everything will be back to normal. If MVP, Byun, marineking were playing zerg with their crazy multi tasking... OMG they would be owning.

I never see zergs multi task even though their race allows them to do so much.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
July 15 2012 02:23 GMT
#7976
What the hell?Dual Sight is still in?
2 base all-in incoming then from Alicia.
Wouldn't want to take a 3rd base here.
Play your best
Fawkes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1935 Posts
July 15 2012 02:23 GMT
#7977
Yes Alicia. Was reading how he was down 0-2 when I was out for dinner.
Taeyeon ~ Jennie ~ Seulgi ~ Irene @Fawkes711
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
July 15 2012 02:23 GMT
#7978
On July 15 2012 11:22 refmac_cys.cys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 11:20 Xxavi wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:18 apes wrote:
pretty telling of balance when a player like ret gets this far.

I am not going to say the game is not balanced, but it is dumb to see players win thanks to that mass broodlords.

It seems the goal is to get there every game and then...

But Alicia seems to have a solution for Ret. He just makes him multitask, which seems to be too much for Ret, and he ends up making terrible mistakes in the battle and get vortexed.

Not arguing, but it's also dumb to see someone win just because they got a vortex off. I just don't like the dynamic. Hopefully we'll see more protoss going carriers!

Unfortunately it seems Carriers are only really effective when they are a surprise and your opponent doesn't have the appropriate Infestor/Corrupter numbers.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
July 15 2012 02:24 GMT
#7979
On July 15 2012 11:22 refmac_cys.cys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 11:20 Xxavi wrote:
On July 15 2012 11:18 apes wrote:
pretty telling of balance when a player like ret gets this far.

I am not going to say the game is not balanced, but it is dumb to see players win thanks to that mass broodlords.

It seems the goal is to get there every game and then...

But Alicia seems to have a solution for Ret. He just makes him multitask, which seems to be too much for Ret, and he ends up making terrible mistakes in the battle and get vortexed.

Not arguing, but it's also dumb to see someone win just because they got a vortex off. I just don't like the dynamic. Hopefully we'll see more protoss going carriers!


so you want to see protosses lose is what your saying.
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-15 02:26:14
July 15 2012 02:24 GMT
#7980
Wow, the OP is terrible at updating. Can someone please tell me the results of MC v Stephano and how Ret v Alicia is going? Info on Huk vs Alicia would also be cool.

Also, any thoughts on those games so far? Including Hero vs Stephano? Good, interesting games?

Thanks a bunch, guys.

Edit/ Saw the Liquipedia page. No worries. Still, any thoughts on the games themselves? Cheers.
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