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JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4414 Posts
July 14 2012 22:16 GMT
#5301
On July 15 2012 07:10 Toadvine wrote:
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On July 15 2012 07:09 skrotcyk wrote:
On July 15 2012 07:04 JJH777 wrote:
On July 15 2012 07:03 Flonomenalz wrote:
On July 15 2012 07:01 Benjamin99 wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:57 Al Bundy wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:56 Poisonblack wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:53 Flonomenalz wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:51 Poisonblack wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:43 GunPaladin wrote:
[quote]
Why do people keep saying this? Koreans are still dominating whether you wanna admit it or not. One tournament won't change that.


Remember the time when whenever say 6 Koreans would be invited to foreign tourneys they would take top 6 in convincing fashion?

Those days are long gone and instead of the gap increasing (which is what logically should happen when koreans practice so much more and are much more dedicated) it has decreased and is still decreasing way too fast.

There's no "domination" anymore, it's just who plays better and who's luckier on a given day.

Lol the gap is getting closer... but it's still very much there. Don't delude yourself... lol

GO ALICIA!

keep telling yourself that, just don't be surprised if Stephano or Ret win NASL (which would have NEVER happened a year ago)

Look, you got the best foreigners vs average koreans (besides MC). You can't really draw conclusions from that.


Calling Alicia/puzzle and Hero average koreans is laughable

Didn't you know? Any Korean not named DRG/Nestea/MVP/MMA/MC is average.


Alicia/Puzzle/Hero are all in Code A or Code B right now.... Meaning they are not top 32 koreans and in Alicia's case not even top 72. They are average.


Ur really retarded if u dont think puzzle is top32 korean, he's slayers ACE player and slayer is at least top4 team in KR. how can u say he's average, lol? everything isn't about making code S ro8 every season, sigh.


DRG was below average before he got his Code S seed too, haven't you heard?


He was. He got eliminated second and then first rounds of the next two seasons of Code S after getting his seed. That's also a lot less relevant though since it was much harder to get into Code S then since there was a much lower turnover rate.
vinsang1000
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium365 Posts
July 14 2012 22:16 GMT
#5302
crowd getting crazy for the observer
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-14 22:17:12
July 14 2012 22:16 GMT
#5303
On July 15 2012 07:09 shabby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 07:07 nojok wrote:
On July 15 2012 07:05 shabby wrote:
On July 15 2012 07:03 Benjamin99 wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:59 JJH777 wrote:
The gap is still just as big NASL koreans are just weak. Look at IPL4 and the MLG championships.


There are only very few Europeans in those tournaments and they done amasing. I dont get you point. Last MLG we had 2 EU players in top 5 and they had better win ratio vs the koreans

Im not saying there isnt a gap but its getting smaller and smaller every month and more and more foreigner players is going pro



I think you are confused because there are a few very good foreigners, but the overall gap is still huge. Imagine a tournament with top 50 koreans and top 50 europeans in it. Pulling numbers out of my ass i'd wager on something like 13 koreans in ro16.

We're talking about pros, there are less Eu pros than there are Kor ones. The average skill may even be in favor of Eu pros considering the amount of poor Kor pros. a top 30 Kor is a pro but a top30 Eu is not a pro.


Sure, make it 20 from each then, there are surely more than 20 pro europeans. It would be a slaughter house vs top 20 koreans.

More than 20 pro Europeans? Who are they? Kas, Nerchio, Mana, Stephano, Thorzain, Beastyqt, Whitera, Demuslim, Lucifron, Ret, Grubby, TLO, Naniwa, Jinro. I can't remember more than those 14 & I agree they would be crushed agaisnt top14 Kor but you have to admit a lan tournament including 6 Koreans & 2 foreigners one year ago would include 4 Koreans in top 4 & now we have 2 foreigners in the top4.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Kamate
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania580 Posts
July 14 2012 22:16 GMT
#5304
Sorry, I didnt catch it , will MC vs Stephano be cast today?
Thank you
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
July 14 2012 22:16 GMT
#5305
oh p v p, you give me chest pains with your observer snipes.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
July 14 2012 22:17 GMT
#5306
a game of observers
I have no quote!
WatchOutNow
Profile Joined July 2012
48 Posts
July 14 2012 22:17 GMT
#5307
HGAHAHAHAHAH best nasl moment so far
epic turnaround obs snipe
twitter.com/LiquidRet
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
July 14 2012 22:17 GMT
#5308
obs wars
yo
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
July 14 2012 22:17 GMT
#5309
On July 15 2012 07:12 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 07:11 Pr0wler wrote:
Ok, now Huk cannot lose... Because Ohana means family


And family means you need to get shield upgrades


Drazerk... advocater of all the useless things.
MMA: The true King of Wings
sagichu
Profile Joined July 2011
United States280 Posts
July 14 2012 22:17 GMT
#5310
lol observer trades
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
July 14 2012 22:17 GMT
#5311
lol observers killing day?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 14 2012 22:17 GMT
#5312
everyone keep making observers
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FloKi
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1490 Posts
July 14 2012 22:17 GMT
#5313
On July 15 2012 07:16 Kamate wrote:
Sorry, I didnt catch it , will MC vs Stephano be cast today?
Thank you

yes it will.
Where do whores go?
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
July 14 2012 22:17 GMT
#5314
huk may be down 2-0 but hes up 2-1 in obs game woot!
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
July 14 2012 22:17 GMT
#5315
Woah
I feel asleep after the first game between Ret and Puzzle. Can anyone summarize the other games?
I've got moves like Jagger
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
July 14 2012 22:17 GMT
#5316
Huk really unimpressive
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
July 14 2012 22:17 GMT
#5317
On July 15 2012 07:16 Havik_ wrote:
Korean vs foreigner gap? On average there's still a decently large gap, but top Korean vs top foreigner is near dead even.


Hmm.. For instance DRG, MC and MKP (most would agree they're top5?) vs Naniwa (?), Stephano (?) and <insert terran>. Seems very lopsided to me.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
July 14 2012 22:17 GMT
#5318
Alicia supply blocked on getting out that colo.
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
July 14 2012 22:18 GMT
#5319
may the best lazors win
I have no quote!
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
July 14 2012 22:18 GMT
#5320
lol, how can Alicia not know that Huk has robotic when his observer saw Huk's observer...
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