EPTOn July 16 2012 22:43 sparklyresidue wrote:
MVP convincingly beat 2 bad zergs to advance to next round, don't forget about that.
MVP convincingly beat 2 bad zergs to advance to next round, don't forget about that.
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imre
France9263 Posts
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On July 16 2012 22:40 s3rp wrote: Yeah Vikings should've been split up better but still fungaled once = dead Anti-Air and probably lost game is just a bad mechanic , way too unforgiving that way. Infestors are way too strong IMO. There's just so much utility in them and combined with Broodlords, they're really really very frustrating to watch. I mean I know that EMPs, feedbacks and snipes counter them, but being able to chain fungal is ridiculously strong. Particularly when there's a lot of damage output from fungals as well. | ||
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Wildmoon
Thailand4189 Posts
On July 16 2012 22:43 sparklyresidue wrote: MVP convincingly beat 2 zergs to advance to next round, don't forget about that. Mvp timing sense is deadly. | ||
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
On July 16 2012 22:43 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Hoping for some epic ZvZ. Hoping for a repeat of Nestea vs Symbol. Late game ZvZ's are always incredible. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On July 16 2012 22:40 sAsImre wrote: it was. I think those late game player are way more confident on Whirlwind/Metropolis now where you have the eco to transition into sky terran. I see Byun more as a classic TvZer. Drops and trade bio well with great micro, not the new turtle style and split map to BC-raven-ghosts-whatever. I guess Byun can play this style too but I've never seen him do it. | ||
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Zane
Romania3916 Posts
On July 16 2012 22:43 Adreme wrote: I want to see logistics of it because it seems like it would suffer from same immobility problems that BL/infestor sometimes does or very big maps and it would take too long to tech into on the smaller ones. He blocked both chokes on Metropolis with PFs and basically forced a split map game. | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
You have to be quite a bit ahead to make that transition safe. It just takes so much time and resources to make the BC/Raven transition. It also depends on map. MVP did it on Metropolis because he was able to siege/bunker up his side. On smaller maps with multiple attack paths, it is very hard to do. | ||
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chambertin
United States1704 Posts
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On July 16 2012 22:43 Andr3 wrote: I know this isn't the place to discuss this but still, I wish blizzard would go on with their fungal change(the one that added a missile to it) Here's an example made by some guy+ Show Spoiler + This would mean Byun could micro his vikings during the actual battle, not before it. Pre-emptive splitting isn't something to gasp at, with this change there would be so much more skill needed on both sides. Zerg aiming, terran dodgin'! Gogo Byun, hope he can re vs Symbol and pwn him hard! They would probably have to cheapen cost of infestor so that there could be more missles though if they did that. | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On July 16 2012 22:43 Adreme wrote: I want to see logistics of it because it seems like it would suffer from same immobility problems that BL/infestor sometimes does or very big maps and it would take too long to tech into on the smaller ones. PF are pretty good at dealing with runbys so you just force an engagement from the Z. | ||
Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On July 16 2012 22:41 LimitSEA wrote: That's the thing that bugs me most about that game. Byun handled the BL-Ultra-BL-Ultra transitions pretty much perfectly, had the game in the bag, then forgot to split his vikings once. He made late game Zerg not look as strong as it has in the past til that one mistake. That's why i'd like that Fungal Growth does less damages. I mean, pinning down unit is just already huge (especially combined with Baneling and/or ultras). Add up the damage, and it's incredibly efficient... I don't know how this could be adressed... And to which extent... | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
Hey, Sniper is pretty good. | ||
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
If you only had SPLIT THOSE VIKINGS,he played almost perfect text book TvZ. But gratz to Symbol. | ||
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On July 16 2012 22:44 Zane wrote: He blocked both chokes on Metropolis with PFs and basically forced a split map game. I know it would work on Metropolis (seems like double PF turtle is MVPs style on that map) but a lot of maps cant be completely safe with just 2 PFs. | ||
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sparklyresidue
United States5523 Posts
if "bad" means "made it this far in arguably the hardest tournament bracket yet for sc2" then yeah, 2 bad zergs. | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On July 16 2012 22:43 Andr3 wrote: I know this isn't the place to discuss this but still, I wish blizzard would go on with their fungal change(the one that added a missile to it) Here's an example made by some guy+ Show Spoiler + This would mean Byun could micro his vikings during the actual battle, not before it. Pre-emptive splitting isn't something to gasp at, with this change there would be so much more skill needed on both sides. Zerg aiming, terran dodgin'! Gogo Byun, hope he can re vs Symbol and pwn him hard! Well anything would be better than what Infestors are right now. Anything that completely takes Micro away from the game worsens the overall viewing experience. Very boring unit. | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On July 16 2012 22:44 ZenithM wrote: I see Byun more as a classic TvZer. Drops and trade bio well with great micro, not the new turtle style and split map to BC-raven-ghosts-whatever. I guess Byun can play this style too but I've never seen him do it. in his ro8 interview he said that TvZ was ok because of that late game comp and that he feels T needs to turtle in TvZ. Wait and see  | ||
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Lunareste
United States3596 Posts
On July 16 2012 22:43 Andr3 wrote: I know this isn't the place to discuss this but still, I wish blizzard would go on with their fungal change(the one that added a missile to it) Here's an example made by some guy+ Show Spoiler + This would mean Byun could micro his vikings during the actual battle, not before it. Pre-emptive splitting isn't something to gasp at, with this change there would be so much more skill needed on both sides. Zerg aiming, terran dodgin'! Gogo Byun, hope he can re vs Symbol and pwn him hard! That was AWESOME!!!! | ||
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Juliette
United States6003 Posts
Z11 Symbol <Ohana> Z5 DRG | ||
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
On July 16 2012 22:44 ZenithM wrote: I see Byun more as a classic TvZer. Drops and trade bio well with great micro, not the new turtle style and split map to BC-raven-ghosts-whatever. I guess Byun can play this style too but I've never seen him do it. I very much prefer Byun's way of playing lategame TvZ. The constant dropping and harass made it impossible for the BL-Ultra transitions to be as effective as they could've been otherwise. It's so much more entertaining too. | ||
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