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Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
July 06 2012 21:20 GMT
#3541
On July 07 2012 06:13 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:10 Logros wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:09 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:08 zefreak wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:07 TheBanana wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:05 zezamer wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:03 TheBanana wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:00 zefreak wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:58 flodeskum wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:51 mambar wrote:
[quote]
they are saying it happens far less often, which makes it more meaningful

Jaedong's overall winrate in BW is 68.5%, MVPs in SC2 is 64.66%.


If Jaedong played in the BW equivalent of HSC, his winrate would be 100%


I'm intrigued as to how you would translate HSC into a BW equivalent.


Did foreigner ever take a game off korean in WSG ? I actually don't know if it happened but I guess it didn't


There would be no BW equivalent. The scenes are too different to make a meaningful comparison to a hypothetical BW HSC.


I'd say WCG is pretty close, actually.


Mondragon AND PJ beat the Savior

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/WCG_2007

And White-ra beat Stork it seems :o.


Neat but not as impressive as beating Savior.

This was the 2007 Savior, the last phase of his bonjwa-ness. Losing to two foreigners is ... a huge upset.

Wasn't that the time Stork threw a game so he wouldn't have to play against a Korean in the quarterfinals?
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AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
July 06 2012 21:20 GMT
#3542
mvp doesnt like english sc2 :O
IM & EG supporter
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
July 06 2012 21:20 GMT
#3543
Group H: (T)MVP VS (P)NightEnD



Game 1
Map - ESL (Wiki)Entombed Valley
MVP - 2 o'clock spawn.
NightEnD - 8 o'clock spawn.

Best of 3 score:
MVP 0 - NightEnD 0
♥ Liquid`Sheth ♥ Liquid`TLO ♥
aTo
Profile Joined September 2011
Austria588 Posts
July 06 2012 21:20 GMT
#3544
at least he should put the headset on... when MC dont know how to explain in english... just sayin.. no offense ^^
zap zap zap
enemy2010
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1972 Posts
July 06 2012 21:20 GMT
#3545
lol, what?

Wear the headset. You can hear the casters speaking.
1on1 auf azze no he no flash no awp only holztor. | Ja, da meint der ich hätt' abgeschmatzt, aber dat is Quatsch, verstehste?
KroN
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany438 Posts
July 06 2012 21:20 GMT
#3546
On July 07 2012 06:19 Glorfindel! wrote:
Anyone more than me that do not recive any sound? All my other programs gives me sound but not the Stream :S


flash bug, F5 and reload the page with sound on in the stream box --> tadaaa sound :D
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
July 06 2012 21:21 GMT
#3547
NOOOOOOOO Mvp what happened????
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
July 06 2012 21:21 GMT
#3548
This group stage format needs to die... Just use GSL format please. A tournament should never have games that are meaningless for one player.
Demonaz
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1219 Posts
July 06 2012 21:21 GMT
#3549
They are giving MVP so many excuses lol
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
July 06 2012 21:21 GMT
#3550
This is a bit crazy to try to cast while someone can hear. Surely he knows words such as void ray, colossi, high templar and storm? :/
Terminal
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom2109 Posts
July 06 2012 21:21 GMT
#3551
MVP would prefer screaming in the background? wut

and

Surely he could just turn the game sounds off, but still wear the headphones?
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
July 06 2012 21:21 GMT
#3552
They cast near players and no headset ? That cant be good.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
July 06 2012 21:21 GMT
#3553
On July 07 2012 06:17 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:12 TheBB wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:09 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:05 Zane wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:03 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:59 Zane wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:58 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Maybe people need to start accepting that Mvp is not the best player in the world anymore.

Just like they accepted before GSL October. Or before last GSL.


Win one GSL and suddenly you're the best player in the world. Good logic. I remember when the thread monsters were slobbering all over Jjakji because of one fantastic run. Where did his other championships go?

No, win 4 GSLs and you're the best player. That's the point, just because he doesn't win every single tournament he enters doesn't mean he's suddenly not the best player anymore.


He isn't the best player anykmore because he cannot consistently beat everybody else, which is what the best player does. Honestly it's embarrassing when people just call x or y the best player, do they understand how utterly dominant you must be to be considered for the title? Mvp doesn't possess that dominance anymore.

I don't think this holds. At any one time, someone must be best (by definition), even if we can't clearly tell who. However, it is not given that at any one time someone must necessarily dominate everyone else. Whatever happened to the first-among-equals situation?


That's a false assumption. "Being the best" is a judgment call created by people based on outside evidence, not some intuitive ranking system that naturally exists. If there is no sustainable argument for any single individual then nobody occupies that position. Right now anyone can trash anyone in the KR scene and they are doing it on a regular basis.

But there is an objective ranking system. Let's say a hypothetical N-round robin involving every player played under identical and simultaneous conditions. Of course this is not realisable, but that's not a problem. I put it to you that as N goes to infinity, the winner of such a hypothetical tournament will be stable, e.g. P(this player winning) will approach 1 as N grows.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
July 06 2012 21:21 GMT
#3554
On July 07 2012 06:20 Iyerbeth wrote:
Group H: (T)MVP VS (P)NightEnD



Game 1
Map - ESL (Wiki)Entombed Valley
MVP - 2 o'clock spawn.
NightEnD - 8 o'clock spawn.

Best of 3 score:
MVP 0 - NightEnD 0


Nightend opens with Gate then Gas.
1 Rax for MVP.
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Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
July 06 2012 21:21 GMT
#3555
On July 07 2012 06:20 KroN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:19 Glorfindel! wrote:
Anyone more than me that do not recive any sound? All my other programs gives me sound but not the Stream :S


flash bug, F5 and reload the page with sound on in the stream box --> tadaaa sound :D


Bah, still doesnt work :S
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
July 06 2012 21:21 GMT
#3556
He pronouced Nightends team name wrong in the street fighter voice its "Fnatic Ladycall", not raid call.
"NO" -Has
the`postman
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1643 Posts
July 06 2012 21:22 GMT
#3557
On July 07 2012 06:18 Swords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:14 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:10 Toadvine wrote:
I used to think buffing Fungal was a good way to make the Zerg midgame more solid back in 2011. In retrospect, I should've predicted it would result in retarded crap like this.


i, for one, preferred when fungal was more of a long ensnare for stalling, but there's no other way to be even remotely cost efficient with your units as zerg if you don't have somewhat of a DPSing fungal. with the way pathing and clumping works, zergs would have to rely solely on banes which can be countered/absorbed a lot easier.


What if it just reduced movement speed by a lot though, instead of freezing? I just find fungal so boring to watch in game, because I know that no matter how skilled at micro the opponent is there's nothing he can do once his units get hit. Spreading pre-emtively is cool I guess, but not nearly as interesting as storm dodging, baneling splitting, lifting units over forcefields, flanking so marauders can't abuse concussive, etc.

As long as it still prevents blink.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
July 06 2012 21:22 GMT
#3558
On July 07 2012 06:21 Terminal wrote:
MVP would prefer screaming in the background? wut

and

Surely he could just turn the game sounds off, but still wear the headphones?


Funny how people only heard the part where reis said that he didnt like english sounds, and then disregarded that the headphone gave him a headache -_-
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
July 06 2012 21:22 GMT
#3559
On July 07 2012 06:21 Iyerbeth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:20 Iyerbeth wrote:
Group H: (T)MVP VS (P)NightEnD



Game 1
Map - ESL (Wiki)Entombed Valley
MVP - 2 o'clock spawn.
NightEnD - 8 o'clock spawn.

Best of 3 score:
MVP 0 - NightEnD 0


Nightend opens with Gate then Gas.
1 Rax for MVP.


Need to AFK sorry, will pick up in a minute.
♥ Liquid`Sheth ♥ Liquid`TLO ♥
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
July 06 2012 21:22 GMT
#3560
So if nightend wins this he can basically change everyones score or chance to qualify?
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
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