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Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
July 06 2012 21:13 GMT
#3501
On July 07 2012 06:13 StarVe wrote:
MC casting Nightend vs MVP with ToD and Reis!

Yes!!!
KroN
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany438 Posts
July 06 2012 21:14 GMT
#3502
On July 07 2012 06:11 SilentSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:09 TheBB wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:09 SilentSC2 wrote:
If its a three way tie who makes it out? MVP won against Golden, Golden won against monchi, and monchi won against MVP...? And they would all have the same map scores... Do they just play again?

Pretty sure that if Mvp wins 2-0, he and Golden make it out. If he wins 2-1, it's a tie. If he loses, it's Golden and Monchi.


Ya I understand that, what I'm trying to say is that if MVP wins 2-1, what will happen to
decide who make it out?


they all have to play each other again in a group of those 3
GuardianEU
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands488 Posts
July 06 2012 21:14 GMT
#3503
On July 07 2012 06:13 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:12 Crushinator wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:10 teddyoojo wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:08 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:08 Swords wrote:
This is why I find fungal boring to watch.


Storm would have done the same thing.

no. this game just showed why 0%movement fungal is bad


Actually this shows that you should not literally stack every single unit in your fucking air army right on top of eachother when facing infestors.


that means u are never allowed to clump units ever in the game, since ur always facing infestors. guess why.


and there's the higher skill ceillling for ya xD
Standard.
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
July 06 2012 21:14 GMT
#3504
On July 07 2012 06:12 Crushinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:10 teddyoojo wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:08 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:08 Swords wrote:
This is why I find fungal boring to watch.


Storm would have done the same thing.

no. this game just showed why 0%movement fungal is bad


Actually this shows that you should not literally stack every single unit in your fucking air army right on top of eachother when facing infestors.


It takes so much more skill to properly split air units that naturally clump vs point and click fungal. I think infestors are simply too powerful for the amount of effort put into them (now that zergs are taking greater care to keep them alive and not derp suicide them)
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LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
July 06 2012 21:14 GMT
#3505
I hope Mvp will finally wake up, it's like he sent his twin brother so far
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
July 06 2012 21:14 GMT
#3506
They should get Happy cast on the main couch.

His english and game knowledge are really good.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
July 06 2012 21:14 GMT
#3507
On July 07 2012 06:13 Swords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:08 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:08 Swords wrote:
This is why I find fungal boring to watch.


Storm would have done the same thing.


Except you can run out of storms. I find that a lot more fun to watch than a player getting a giant clump of air units held in place while he sits there waiting for them to die since he can't micro them anymore.

This isn't balance whine - this is "I find that boring to watch" whine



I'd actually prefer it heavily if Fungal was a slow instead of a root come HoTS or something. That'd be swell.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3131 Posts
July 06 2012 21:14 GMT
#3508
On July 07 2012 06:10 Toadvine wrote:
I used to think buffing Fungal was a good way to make the Zerg midgame more solid back in 2011. In retrospect, I should've predicted it would result in retarded crap like this.


i, for one, preferred when fungal was more of a long ensnare for stalling, but there's no other way to be even remotely cost efficient with your units as zerg if you don't have somewhat of a DPSing fungal. with the way pathing and clumping works, zergs would have to rely solely on banes which can be countered/absorbed a lot easier.
Eralur
Profile Joined June 2012
58 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 21:15:10
July 06 2012 21:14 GMT
#3509
On July 07 2012 06:10 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:08 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:08 Swords wrote:
This is why I find fungal boring to watch.


Storm would have done the same thing.

no. this game just showed why 0%movement fungal is bad


Yes the units should atleast slowly drift back into formation like they do when you stop moving a group of stacked units.

edit: airunits ofc
Stick with the Prod
MBH
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland796 Posts
July 06 2012 21:14 GMT
#3510
On July 07 2012 06:13 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:12 MBH wrote:
Nighend takes one map of MVP and Monchi advanves instead of him, exciting.

if nightend takes 1 map, its 3 way tie
if nightend wins, monchi and golden are through
if mvp 2-0's monchi is out


Ah nice. Hope Nighend wins only one map then haha...
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
July 06 2012 21:15 GMT
#3511
On July 07 2012 06:11 SilentSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:09 TheBB wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:09 SilentSC2 wrote:
If its a three way tie who makes it out? MVP won against Golden, Golden won against monchi, and monchi won against MVP...? And they would all have the same map scores... Do they just play again?

Pretty sure that if Mvp wins 2-0, he and Golden make it out. If he wins 2-1, it's a tie. If he loses, it's Golden and Monchi.

Ya I understand that, what I'm trying to say is that if MVP wins 2-1, what will happen to
decide who make it out?

I can't find information on this, but the only reasonable choices are regames or drawing of lots. (Yeah I can hear you all gagging at the latter.)
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
dakalro
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania525 Posts
July 06 2012 21:15 GMT
#3512
On July 07 2012 06:12 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:09 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:05 Zane wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:03 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:59 Zane wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:58 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Maybe people need to start accepting that Mvp is not the best player in the world anymore.

Just like they accepted before GSL October. Or before last GSL.


Win one GSL and suddenly you're the best player in the world. Good logic. I remember when the thread monsters were slobbering all over Jjakji because of one fantastic run. Where did his other championships go?

No, win 4 GSLs and you're the best player. That's the point, just because he doesn't win every single tournament he enters doesn't mean he's suddenly not the best player anymore.


He isn't the best player anykmore because he cannot consistently beat everybody else, which is what the best player does. Honestly it's embarrassing when people just call x or y the best player, do they understand how utterly dominant you must be to be considered for the title? Mvp doesn't possess that dominance anymore.

I don't think this holds. At any one time, someone must be best (by definition), even if we can't clearly tell who. However, it is not given that at any one time someone must necessarily dominate everyone else. Whatever happened to the first-among-equals situation?


He's probably the best player when he prepares (wants to win stuff, he did say he's taking it easy for this GSL, I assume HSCV is also included).
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
July 06 2012 21:15 GMT
#3513
Wow i can't believe that Mvp is 1-1 atm and monchi did qualify? :O Quite surprised that this happened!
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Vaftrudner
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden1185 Posts
July 06 2012 21:15 GMT
#3514
Ret is quickly becoming one of my favourite casters. And I was really impressed by Pandii, she kept noticing small important details in the games.
"Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one." - Day9
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 06 2012 21:15 GMT
#3515
After 2 days that chair advert still creeps the fuck out of me.
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KroN
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany438 Posts
July 06 2012 21:15 GMT
#3516
On July 07 2012 06:15 SilSol wrote:
Wow i can't believe that Mvp is 1-1 atm and monchi did qualify? :O Quite surprised that this happened!


monchi is not through
Demonaz
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1219 Posts
July 06 2012 21:16 GMT
#3517
I've just tuned in and have one question...

Who the fuck is Monchi and how did he beat MVP?
Leth0
Profile Joined February 2012
856 Posts
July 06 2012 21:16 GMT
#3518
Miscontrol your army and get it chain fungaled its terrans fault, much in the same way a zerg can miscontrol his brood army by stacking them, then getting them all killed almost instantly due to vortex / archon....both can be mitigated by better army control and a larger spread.
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
July 06 2012 21:16 GMT
#3519
On July 07 2012 06:12 Crushinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:10 teddyoojo wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:08 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:08 Swords wrote:
This is why I find fungal boring to watch.


Storm would have done the same thing.

no. this game just showed why 0%movement fungal is bad


Actually this shows that you should not literally stack every single unit in your fucking air army right on top of eachother when facing infestors.

Still a terrible design, same as force field and to lesser effect HSM and concussive(I say to lesser degree since against ravens, they are so slow you need to fuck up pretty big and they can be microed against after the HSM starts and concussive is single target). Kinda why Irridate is an awesome ability, you can minimize it's effect. Plague is also good in this way, where you can atleast try to safe your units and get them to fight another day.
dezi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1536 Posts
July 06 2012 21:17 GMT
#3520
Mvp wins 2:0 - monchi is out - Mvp wins 2:1 - three way tie (Mvp > Golden > monchi > Mvp) - Mvp loses, he's out ^^
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