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Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
July 06 2012 21:11 GMT
#3481
On July 07 2012 06:11 Xivsa wrote:
"Tweet at PandyStarCraft and tell her to talk more next time."

Harsh truth from the loving boyfriend, Ret.


Someone's not getting some tonight :p awkward silence...
dakalro
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania525 Posts
July 06 2012 21:11 GMT
#3482
On July 07 2012 06:10 Toadvine wrote:
I used to think buffing Fungal was a good way to make the Zerg midgame more solid back in 2011. In retrospect, I should've predicted it would result in retarded crap like this.


Just needs to not immobilize air, only do dmg.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
July 06 2012 21:11 GMT
#3483
On July 07 2012 06:11 Xivsa wrote:
"Tweet at PandyStarCraft and tell her to talk more next time."

Harsh truth from the loving boyfriend, Ret.


lol yeah, she didn't look happy :D
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
July 06 2012 21:12 GMT
#3484
On July 07 2012 05:58 Avalain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 05:48 IshinShishi wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:44 Fragile51 wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:42 MentalGNT wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:38 zezamer wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:36 zefreak wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:32 IshinShishi wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:26 Plansix wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:08 Asha` wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:06 Plansix wrote:
[quote]

I know, MVP should have played better and scouted it. He should have assumed his opponent would take risks against him.


Yup, should expect inferior players to do this a lot.

I guess he was just overly scared of another 2 base all in after the game before rather than Monchi going the other way and hoping to get away with greed.


Inferior is a strong word and not one that I would use for someone who just beat MVP. I would say that Monchi knew he was not going to be able to match MVPs end game macro, since he is the Game Genie Terran. You can't fault people who do not have access to the Korean ladder for taking risks.

I think the whole situation of MVP being able to be beaten by these guys is just very sad for the game and when he streams and loses to jackthejasonbowler high master NA it doesn't help my mood either.


I agree, a game where someone can dominate and then lose to random players loses interest fast, and is usually just a bad game. Theres a reason why there's no such thing as rock paper scissors tournaments.


Game is a joke if the best player in the history of the game can lose to someone like monchi, sorry...

The best player in Starcraft 2 history still has to play well to win. Mvp played very sloppy and lost. Just as he should have.

And I say this as a huge Mvp fan.


Exactly. I'm a huge MVP fan but his play thusfar has been very underwhelming.

Nah, huge bw names rarely lost to random foreigners(even when they "played sloppy"), it was like the happening of the month, in sc2 it happens so often to players like MKP, MVP, MMA etc. it makes the game seem a lot less interesting, that's just the way it is.


I have a hard time understanding this. Is it more interesting when the results of every match are basically pre-determined? I like seeing upsets because it means that every game actually matters.

I favor skill over drama.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Crushinator
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands2138 Posts
July 06 2012 21:12 GMT
#3485
On July 07 2012 06:10 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:08 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:08 Swords wrote:
This is why I find fungal boring to watch.


Storm would have done the same thing.

no. this game just showed why 0%movement fungal is bad


Actually this shows that you should not literally stack every single unit in your fucking air army right on top of eachother when facing infestors.
MBH
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland796 Posts
July 06 2012 21:12 GMT
#3486
Nighend takes one map of MVP and Monchi advanves instead of him, exciting.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
July 06 2012 21:12 GMT
#3487
On July 07 2012 06:09 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:05 Zane wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:03 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:59 Zane wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:58 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Maybe people need to start accepting that Mvp is not the best player in the world anymore.

Just like they accepted before GSL October. Or before last GSL.


Win one GSL and suddenly you're the best player in the world. Good logic. I remember when the thread monsters were slobbering all over Jjakji because of one fantastic run. Where did his other championships go?

No, win 4 GSLs and you're the best player. That's the point, just because he doesn't win every single tournament he enters doesn't mean he's suddenly not the best player anymore.


He isn't the best player anykmore because he cannot consistently beat everybody else, which is what the best player does. Honestly it's embarrassing when people just call x or y the best player, do they understand how utterly dominant you must be to be considered for the title? Mvp doesn't possess that dominance anymore.

I don't think this holds. At any one time, someone must be best (by definition), even if we can't clearly tell who. However, it is not given that at any one time someone must necessarily dominate everyone else. Whatever happened to the first-among-equals situation?
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
July 06 2012 21:12 GMT
#3488
On July 07 2012 06:11 Xivsa wrote:
"Tweet at PandyStarCraft and tell her to talk more next time."

Harsh truth from the loving boyfriend, Ret.

Kinda seemed a bit to harsh, didn't really seem like she liked the comment either. Thought she was very good, found it interesting that she was the only one that mentioned fx. the 3 ravens that died(which is pretty huge)
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
July 06 2012 21:12 GMT
#3489
On July 07 2012 06:12 Crushinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:10 teddyoojo wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:08 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:08 Swords wrote:
This is why I find fungal boring to watch.


Storm would have done the same thing.

no. this game just showed why 0%movement fungal is bad


Actually this shows that you should not literally stack every single unit in your fucking air army right on top of eachother when facing infestors.

I think it shows both.
aTo
Profile Joined September 2011
Austria588 Posts
July 06 2012 21:12 GMT
#3490
On July 07 2012 06:12 MBH wrote:
Nighend takes one map of MVP and Monchi advanves instead of him, exciting.

actually its 3way tie then
zap zap zap
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
July 06 2012 21:13 GMT
#3491
MC casting Nightend vs MVP with ToD and Reis!
Amira
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany149 Posts
July 06 2012 21:13 GMT
#3492
Will cast with @sk__mc and @FnaticToD the game between @LGIMMvp and Nightend!!!

nice
Talho
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium592 Posts
July 06 2012 21:13 GMT
#3493
if mvp - nightend is 2-1, dont we have a 3 way tie :o ? they all are on 5-4

fingers crossed
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
July 06 2012 21:13 GMT
#3494
On July 07 2012 06:12 Crushinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:10 teddyoojo wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:08 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:08 Swords wrote:
This is why I find fungal boring to watch.


Storm would have done the same thing.

no. this game just showed why 0%movement fungal is bad


Actually this shows that you should not literally stack every single unit in your fucking air army right on top of eachother when facing infestors.


that means u are never allowed to clump units ever in the game, since ur always facing infestors. guess why.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
July 06 2012 21:13 GMT
#3495
On July 07 2012 06:08 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:08 Swords wrote:
This is why I find fungal boring to watch.


Storm would have done the same thing.


Except you can run out of storms. I find that a lot more fun to watch than a player getting a giant clump of air units held in place while he sits there waiting for them to die since he can't micro them anymore.

This isn't balance whine - this is "I find that boring to watch" whine

teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
July 06 2012 21:13 GMT
#3496
On July 07 2012 06:12 MBH wrote:
Nighend takes one map of MVP and Monchi advanves instead of him, exciting.

if nightend takes 1 map, its 3 way tie
if nightend wins, monchi and golden are through
if mvp 2-0's monchi is out
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
July 06 2012 21:13 GMT
#3497
Now a Tarson, Dimaga and Happy Cast on the mainstage pls pls pls
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
July 06 2012 21:13 GMT
#3498
On July 07 2012 06:10 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:09 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:08 zefreak wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:07 TheBanana wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:05 zezamer wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:03 TheBanana wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:00 zefreak wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:58 flodeskum wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:51 mambar wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:50 Gevna wrote:
[quote]

Hmm yeah, Flash has never lost a game against Dear. He is even on 100% winstreaks for the last 2 years.

they are saying it happens far less often, which makes it more meaningful

Jaedong's overall winrate in BW is 68.5%, MVPs in SC2 is 64.66%.


If Jaedong played in the BW equivalent of HSC, his winrate would be 100%


I'm intrigued as to how you would translate HSC into a BW equivalent.


Did foreigner ever take a game off korean in WSG ? I actually don't know if it happened but I guess it didn't


There would be no BW equivalent. The scenes are too different to make a meaningful comparison to a hypothetical BW HSC.


I'd say WCG is pretty close, actually.


Mondragon AND PJ beat the Savior

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/WCG_2007

And White-ra beat Stork it seems :o.


Neat but not as impressive as beating Savior.

This was the 2007 Savior, the last phase of his bonjwa-ness. Losing to two foreigners is ... a huge upset.
MMA: The true King of Wings
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
July 06 2012 21:13 GMT
#3499
On July 07 2012 06:12 Crushinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:10 teddyoojo wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:08 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:08 Swords wrote:
This is why I find fungal boring to watch.


Storm would have done the same thing.

no. this game just showed why 0%movement fungal is bad


Actually this shows that you should not literally stack every single unit in your fucking air army right on top of eachother when facing infestors.

Its so much harder to keep constant spread than to drop a fungal... Fungal is such a boring spell :/
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 06 2012 21:13 GMT
#3500
I just discovered that cereal and watching starcraft is an amazing combination.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
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