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iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 21:22:40
July 06 2012 21:22 GMT
#3561
mvp is the best player in the world right now, there is no need to argue any otherwise.

he is the most consistent and best player when he can study his opponents. That is his real strength
Knight79
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany35 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 21:22:39
July 06 2012 21:22 GMT
#3562
Let MVP wearing no headphones is quite unfair and unreasonable.
People always understand a lot more than they are able to speech of.
KroN
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany438 Posts
July 06 2012 21:22 GMT
#3563
On July 07 2012 06:21 Glorfindel! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:20 KroN wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:19 Glorfindel! wrote:
Anyone more than me that do not recive any sound? All my other programs gives me sound but not the Stream :S


flash bug, F5 and reload the page with sound on in the stream box --> tadaaa sound :D


Bah, still doesnt work :S


Hm, strange, try another browser then,
Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
July 06 2012 21:22 GMT
#3564
wtf is this shit, wear the damn sounddumping headsets
[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
aTo
Profile Joined September 2011
Austria588 Posts
July 06 2012 21:22 GMT
#3565
On July 07 2012 06:22 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:21 Terminal wrote:
MVP would prefer screaming in the background? wut

and

Surely he could just turn the game sounds off, but still wear the headphones?


Funny how people only heard the part where reis said that he didnt like english sounds, and then disregarded that the headphone gave him a headache -_-

actually he said the english sounds give him headache.. not the headset
zap zap zap
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
July 06 2012 21:22 GMT
#3566
yeah I don't know about no headphones...
ch1ppr
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden123 Posts
July 06 2012 21:23 GMT
#3567
MVP doesnt understand much english so i think its ok, wont have any amjor impact on game, casters just needs to not yell out any cheese to loud
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
July 06 2012 21:23 GMT
#3568
Who's MC casting with?
¯\_(シ)_/¯
enemy2010
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1972 Posts
July 06 2012 21:23 GMT
#3569
On July 07 2012 06:22 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:21 Terminal wrote:
MVP would prefer screaming in the background? wut

and

Surely he could just turn the game sounds off, but still wear the headphones?


Funny how people only heard the part where reis said that he didnt like english sounds, and then disregarded that the headphone gave him a headache -_-

Well, he could wear the SOUNDPROOF headset and not have any sound on.

So no headache, right?
1on1 auf azze no he no flash no awp only holztor. | Ja, da meint der ich hätt' abgeschmatzt, aber dat is Quatsch, verstehste?
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
July 06 2012 21:23 GMT
#3570
On July 07 2012 06:22 Knight79 wrote:
Let MVP wearing no headphones is quite unfair and unreasonable.
People always understand a lot more than they are able to speech of.

Also if they ever get excited by nightends actions...
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
July 06 2012 21:23 GMT
#3571
I always mix Nightend and darkforce up for some reason... I saw this and was like "why the hell is he playing protoss?!"
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
July 06 2012 21:23 GMT
#3572
On July 07 2012 06:23 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:22 Knight79 wrote:
Let MVP wearing no headphones is quite unfair and unreasonable.
People always understand a lot more than they are able to speech of.

Also if they ever get excited by nightends actions...

I'm sure they asked Nightend if he was ok with it
I have no quote!
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
July 06 2012 21:24 GMT
#3573
On July 07 2012 06:22 aTo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:22 Fragile51 wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:21 Terminal wrote:
MVP would prefer screaming in the background? wut

and

Surely he could just turn the game sounds off, but still wear the headphones?


Funny how people only heard the part where reis said that he didnt like english sounds, and then disregarded that the headphone gave him a headache -_-

actually he said the english sounds give him headache.. not the headset


...How can english sounds give you a headache? Instead of a big ass helicopter grade sound canceling pair of headphones in a really warm apartment? I think it's pretty obvious that's what Reis meant.
Terminal
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom2109 Posts
July 06 2012 21:24 GMT
#3574
On July 07 2012 06:22 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:21 Terminal wrote:
MVP would prefer screaming in the background? wut

and

Surely he could just turn the game sounds off, but still wear the headphones?


Funny how people only heard the part where reis said that he didnt like english sounds, and then disregarded that the headphone gave him a headache -_-

But surely the headphones give him a headache because of the sounds.. not from wearing them, lol.
GrazerRinge
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
999 Posts
July 06 2012 21:24 GMT
#3575
no offense, but imo u cannot call this as tournament...at least at the matches there should be kind of referee to keep things organized. Jez, the matches are the main reason why this event is going on...not funsies and other things which might be entertaining.
"Successful people don't talk much. They listen and take action."
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 21:25:48
July 06 2012 21:24 GMT
#3576
On July 07 2012 06:21 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:17 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:12 TheBB wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:09 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:05 Zane wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:03 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:59 Zane wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:58 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Maybe people need to start accepting that Mvp is not the best player in the world anymore.

Just like they accepted before GSL October. Or before last GSL.


Win one GSL and suddenly you're the best player in the world. Good logic. I remember when the thread monsters were slobbering all over Jjakji because of one fantastic run. Where did his other championships go?

No, win 4 GSLs and you're the best player. That's the point, just because he doesn't win every single tournament he enters doesn't mean he's suddenly not the best player anymore.


He isn't the best player anykmore because he cannot consistently beat everybody else, which is what the best player does. Honestly it's embarrassing when people just call x or y the best player, do they understand how utterly dominant you must be to be considered for the title? Mvp doesn't possess that dominance anymore.

I don't think this holds. At any one time, someone must be best (by definition), even if we can't clearly tell who. However, it is not given that at any one time someone must necessarily dominate everyone else. Whatever happened to the first-among-equals situation?


That's a false assumption. "Being the best" is a judgment call created by people based on outside evidence, not some intuitive ranking system that naturally exists. If there is no sustainable argument for any single individual then nobody occupies that position. Right now anyone can trash anyone in the KR scene and they are doing it on a regular basis.

But there is an objective ranking system. Let's say a hypothetical N-round robin involving every player played under identical and simultaneous conditions. Of course this is not realisable, but that's not a problem. I put it to you that as N goes to infinity, the winner of such a hypothetical tournament will be stable, e.g. P(this player winning) will approach 1 as N grows.


That doesn't still prove anything since part of labeling someone "the best player" is succeeding despite circumstances.

On July 07 2012 06:22 iky43210 wrote:
mvp is the best player in the world right now, there is no need to argue any otherwise.

he is the most consistent and best player when he can study his opponents. That is his real strength


So basically he would not win any other tournament other than the GSL. Good job refuting your own argument.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Napoloen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1 Post
July 06 2012 21:24 GMT
#3577
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Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
July 06 2012 21:24 GMT
#3578
On July 07 2012 06:22 iky43210 wrote:
mvp is the best player in the world right now, there is no need to argue any otherwise.

he is the most consistent and best player when he can study his opponents. That is his real strength

I would agree if DRG wasn't around.

Still, MVP is waaaay up there... And should be doing better than this.
aTo
Profile Joined September 2011
Austria588 Posts
July 06 2012 21:24 GMT
#3579
On July 07 2012 06:24 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:22 aTo wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:22 Fragile51 wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:21 Terminal wrote:
MVP would prefer screaming in the background? wut

and

Surely he could just turn the game sounds off, but still wear the headphones?


Funny how people only heard the part where reis said that he didnt like english sounds, and then disregarded that the headphone gave him a headache -_-

actually he said the english sounds give him headache.. not the headset


...How can english sounds give you a headache? Instead of a big ass helicopter grade sound canceling pair of headphones in a really warm apartment? I think it's pretty obvious that's what Reis meant.


u better listen next time what they are saying... there are couple of languages which give me headache too when im listening to them
zap zap zap
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
July 06 2012 21:24 GMT
#3580
On July 07 2012 06:24 GrazerRinge wrote:
no offense, but imo u cannot call this as tournament...at least at the matches there should be kind of referee to keep things organized. Jez, the matches are the main reason why this event is going on...not funsies and other things which might be entertaining.

There's a reason why HSC is a fan favorite
¯\_(シ)_/¯
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