• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 23:40
CEST 05:40
KST 12:40
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!14Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters2Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)83Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format16[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!18
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" [D] Wireframe Casting Removed
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Summer Cup 2026 GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion HORROR STARCRAFT MOVIE How Famous was FlaSh before his Debut? screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend! Escore Tournament - Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs Fighting Spirit mining rates Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Role of Gaming on Mental Hea…
TrAiDoS
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8071 users

[Day 2] Homestory Cup V - Page 179

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 177 178 179 180 181 241 Next
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 21:22:40
July 06 2012 21:22 GMT
#3561
mvp is the best player in the world right now, there is no need to argue any otherwise.

he is the most consistent and best player when he can study his opponents. That is his real strength
Knight79
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany35 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 21:22:39
July 06 2012 21:22 GMT
#3562
Let MVP wearing no headphones is quite unfair and unreasonable.
People always understand a lot more than they are able to speech of.
KroN
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany438 Posts
July 06 2012 21:22 GMT
#3563
On July 07 2012 06:21 Glorfindel! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:20 KroN wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:19 Glorfindel! wrote:
Anyone more than me that do not recive any sound? All my other programs gives me sound but not the Stream :S


flash bug, F5 and reload the page with sound on in the stream box --> tadaaa sound :D


Bah, still doesnt work :S


Hm, strange, try another browser then,
Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
July 06 2012 21:22 GMT
#3564
wtf is this shit, wear the damn sounddumping headsets
[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
aTo
Profile Joined September 2011
Austria588 Posts
July 06 2012 21:22 GMT
#3565
On July 07 2012 06:22 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:21 Terminal wrote:
MVP would prefer screaming in the background? wut

and

Surely he could just turn the game sounds off, but still wear the headphones?


Funny how people only heard the part where reis said that he didnt like english sounds, and then disregarded that the headphone gave him a headache -_-

actually he said the english sounds give him headache.. not the headset
zap zap zap
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
July 06 2012 21:22 GMT
#3566
yeah I don't know about no headphones...
ch1ppr
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden123 Posts
July 06 2012 21:23 GMT
#3567
MVP doesnt understand much english so i think its ok, wont have any amjor impact on game, casters just needs to not yell out any cheese to loud
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
July 06 2012 21:23 GMT
#3568
Who's MC casting with?
¯\_(シ)_/¯
enemy2010
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1972 Posts
July 06 2012 21:23 GMT
#3569
On July 07 2012 06:22 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:21 Terminal wrote:
MVP would prefer screaming in the background? wut

and

Surely he could just turn the game sounds off, but still wear the headphones?


Funny how people only heard the part where reis said that he didnt like english sounds, and then disregarded that the headphone gave him a headache -_-

Well, he could wear the SOUNDPROOF headset and not have any sound on.

So no headache, right?
1on1 auf azze no he no flash no awp only holztor. | Ja, da meint der ich hätt' abgeschmatzt, aber dat is Quatsch, verstehste?
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
July 06 2012 21:23 GMT
#3570
On July 07 2012 06:22 Knight79 wrote:
Let MVP wearing no headphones is quite unfair and unreasonable.
People always understand a lot more than they are able to speech of.

Also if they ever get excited by nightends actions...
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
July 06 2012 21:23 GMT
#3571
I always mix Nightend and darkforce up for some reason... I saw this and was like "why the hell is he playing protoss?!"
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
July 06 2012 21:23 GMT
#3572
On July 07 2012 06:23 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:22 Knight79 wrote:
Let MVP wearing no headphones is quite unfair and unreasonable.
People always understand a lot more than they are able to speech of.

Also if they ever get excited by nightends actions...

I'm sure they asked Nightend if he was ok with it
I have no quote!
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
July 06 2012 21:24 GMT
#3573
On July 07 2012 06:22 aTo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:22 Fragile51 wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:21 Terminal wrote:
MVP would prefer screaming in the background? wut

and

Surely he could just turn the game sounds off, but still wear the headphones?


Funny how people only heard the part where reis said that he didnt like english sounds, and then disregarded that the headphone gave him a headache -_-

actually he said the english sounds give him headache.. not the headset


...How can english sounds give you a headache? Instead of a big ass helicopter grade sound canceling pair of headphones in a really warm apartment? I think it's pretty obvious that's what Reis meant.
Terminal
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom2109 Posts
July 06 2012 21:24 GMT
#3574
On July 07 2012 06:22 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:21 Terminal wrote:
MVP would prefer screaming in the background? wut

and

Surely he could just turn the game sounds off, but still wear the headphones?


Funny how people only heard the part where reis said that he didnt like english sounds, and then disregarded that the headphone gave him a headache -_-

But surely the headphones give him a headache because of the sounds.. not from wearing them, lol.
GrazerRinge
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
999 Posts
July 06 2012 21:24 GMT
#3575
no offense, but imo u cannot call this as tournament...at least at the matches there should be kind of referee to keep things organized. Jez, the matches are the main reason why this event is going on...not funsies and other things which might be entertaining.
"Successful people don't talk much. They listen and take action."
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-06 21:25:48
July 06 2012 21:24 GMT
#3576
On July 07 2012 06:21 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:17 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:12 TheBB wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:09 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:05 Zane wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:03 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:59 Zane wrote:
On July 07 2012 05:58 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Maybe people need to start accepting that Mvp is not the best player in the world anymore.

Just like they accepted before GSL October. Or before last GSL.


Win one GSL and suddenly you're the best player in the world. Good logic. I remember when the thread monsters were slobbering all over Jjakji because of one fantastic run. Where did his other championships go?

No, win 4 GSLs and you're the best player. That's the point, just because he doesn't win every single tournament he enters doesn't mean he's suddenly not the best player anymore.


He isn't the best player anykmore because he cannot consistently beat everybody else, which is what the best player does. Honestly it's embarrassing when people just call x or y the best player, do they understand how utterly dominant you must be to be considered for the title? Mvp doesn't possess that dominance anymore.

I don't think this holds. At any one time, someone must be best (by definition), even if we can't clearly tell who. However, it is not given that at any one time someone must necessarily dominate everyone else. Whatever happened to the first-among-equals situation?


That's a false assumption. "Being the best" is a judgment call created by people based on outside evidence, not some intuitive ranking system that naturally exists. If there is no sustainable argument for any single individual then nobody occupies that position. Right now anyone can trash anyone in the KR scene and they are doing it on a regular basis.

But there is an objective ranking system. Let's say a hypothetical N-round robin involving every player played under identical and simultaneous conditions. Of course this is not realisable, but that's not a problem. I put it to you that as N goes to infinity, the winner of such a hypothetical tournament will be stable, e.g. P(this player winning) will approach 1 as N grows.


That doesn't still prove anything since part of labeling someone "the best player" is succeeding despite circumstances.

On July 07 2012 06:22 iky43210 wrote:
mvp is the best player in the world right now, there is no need to argue any otherwise.

he is the most consistent and best player when he can study his opponents. That is his real strength


So basically he would not win any other tournament other than the GSL. Good job refuting your own argument.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Napoloen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1 Post
July 06 2012 21:24 GMT
#3577
[image loading]
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
July 06 2012 21:24 GMT
#3578
On July 07 2012 06:22 iky43210 wrote:
mvp is the best player in the world right now, there is no need to argue any otherwise.

he is the most consistent and best player when he can study his opponents. That is his real strength

I would agree if DRG wasn't around.

Still, MVP is waaaay up there... And should be doing better than this.
aTo
Profile Joined September 2011
Austria588 Posts
July 06 2012 21:24 GMT
#3579
On July 07 2012 06:24 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 06:22 aTo wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:22 Fragile51 wrote:
On July 07 2012 06:21 Terminal wrote:
MVP would prefer screaming in the background? wut

and

Surely he could just turn the game sounds off, but still wear the headphones?


Funny how people only heard the part where reis said that he didnt like english sounds, and then disregarded that the headphone gave him a headache -_-

actually he said the english sounds give him headache.. not the headset


...How can english sounds give you a headache? Instead of a big ass helicopter grade sound canceling pair of headphones in a really warm apartment? I think it's pretty obvious that's what Reis meant.


u better listen next time what they are saying... there are couple of languages which give me headache too when im listening to them
zap zap zap
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
July 06 2012 21:24 GMT
#3580
On July 07 2012 06:24 GrazerRinge wrote:
no offense, but imo u cannot call this as tournament...at least at the matches there should be kind of referee to keep things organized. Jez, the matches are the main reason why this event is going on...not funsies and other things which might be entertaining.

There's a reason why HSC is a fan favorite
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Prev 1 177 178 179 180 181 241 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Cup
00:00
#91
PiGStarcraft537
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft537
RuFF_SC2 179
FoxeR 71
Nina 52
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 3720
Leta 24
Purpose 13
Snow 1
Dota 2
LuMiX1
League of Legends
Trikslyr58
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1324
minikerr54
Other Games
summit1g6747
tarik_tv5510
JimRising 730
WinterStarcraft649
ViBE183
Sick1
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1289
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 102
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo982
• Stunt312
Other Games
• Scarra1962
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
6h 20m
Kung Fu Cup
7h 20m
OSC
20h 20m
CrankTV Team League
1d 7h
Replay Cast
1d 20h
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Serral vs SHIN
herO vs Solar
Online Event
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Clem vs ByuN
Rogue vs Lambo
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-07-21
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E3

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.